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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Goldfinch PCS on January 12, 2009, 02:46:13 pm
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There is no such thing as dry cleaning!
Two systems - Wet Clean and Low Moisture Clean
Lets hear the opinions of all you Professionals, because someone saw this on my site and said it was incorrect. I take the opinion that if moisture is involved then it's not dry and in our field moisture is always involved so we can't dry clean.
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vacuuming is dry cleaning
dry cleaning using solvents is dry cleaning.
so you're wrong
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The Guys that use the HOST system will say there is..... :o :o
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Define the word DRY
If it's solvent cleaning, there isn't a word that means WET SOLVENT as there is with sry when refering to water.
Dry cleaning could also mean that the the carpet is DRY upon completion of the cleaning process and available for immediate use.
There are occasions when I will use the term SEMI-DRY when I am refering to LM cleaning.
ChemDry don't dry clean carpets with their branded systems.
Dry Fusion don't dry clean carpets with there branded system.
But the word dry means different things to different people. Carpets, upholstery and even laundry can be DRY but still require airing, so they're not truly dry.
My wool carpet in my lounge hasn't been cleaned for about 6 months, but it will still have a significant moisture content.
So back to my opening line, what is DRY?
Safe and happy drying :)
Ken
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:dry&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
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but Rob you've only googled half of what he said, he said dry 'cleaning' the definition of dry by its self is misleading when not followed by cleaning
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&cr=countryUK%7CcountryGB&defl=en&q=define:dry+cleaning&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
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It was the spelling that I was referring to, it says on your site.
There is no such think as dry cleaning think instead of thing
John
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DUHHHH!
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Hi Guys
Every carpet will contain moisture so is never dry, typically 10% if I remember back to my lab days.
HWE is wetter than Low Moisture which is wetter than Dry Granule but none are completly dry, as Mike says only vacuuming will not add any water. In practice I believe Granule can be called Dry, Tex/Dry Fusion is low moisture and HWE is wet, but a TM will extract so much water as to leave many carpets as dry as LM, confused ?!
Cheers
Doug
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So Ken, with all your experience and I hold utmost respect for that, how would you explain or describe dry or what would you call dry cleaning? I have heard the opinions of Paul Pearce, Pawlo Woloszyn and others so what's you take?
Other Views
Vacuuming is a dry clean, yes to a point but is it total clean or is it part of a total cleaning process?
We don't say dry vacuum, and we call the machine vacuum cleaner not dry cleaner. Dusting with a dry cloth, broom or duster flick is dry cleaning.
However, from a Carpet and Upholstery Cleaners' point of view is there such a thing as Dry Cleaning?
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Thanks for pointing that error out John.
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There are a few others
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For me, dry will be used as relevant to the context it is being used. I will normally only use the term Dry Cleaning in the context of waterless solvent extraction cleaning. But there again, plant dry cleaners will include water in their drums, hence the disclaimers for shrinkage of curtains and garments! And I'm more likely to use dry wet dry on the rare occasions I need to solvent clean.
I will often refer to vacuuming as the dry extraction process (a bit of Keith Nicolson that has rubbed off on me ;) ) then there's dry compound (VLM) cleaning such as Envirodri and Host, and as I said earlier, I sometimes refer to LM as semi-dry cleaning.
Safe and happy (dry) cleaning :)
Ken
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lets cut to the chase.
the answer to the question is false.
there is such thing as dry cleaning.
derek
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Hi Guys
It all depends on whether you want to see this im marketing terms or technical
As it's a website aimed at customers it's obviously marketing.
Cheers
Doug
True dry cleaning would be ultrasound in a dessicator ;)
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Hi
Being a solely EnviroDri CC, I advertise myself as a Dry CC, but obviously I use a prespray which dampens the carpet and the sponges are moist.
Although I am a LM CC, I am dry compared to the HWE guys. Both Host and EnviroDri are advertised as dry.
Regards
Martin 8)
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As Mike pointed out Dry cleaning would normally be classed as solvent cleaning.
I guess you could always quote the fact that all the dry cleaning shops are in theory misleading.
The closest you are going to get to dry is granules.
I guess any system could be called dry if it is dry before you leave, as in the use of forced air blowers etc.
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That is a good point Mr Walker.
So i guess it's how you leave the carpet and not the system/method used, INTERESTING!
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I guess any system could be called dry if it is dry before you leave, as in the use of forced air blowers etc.
Thats why Martin can call the Envirodri granule system he uses as dry cleaning.
You wait for the granules to dry so you can vacuum them up with a conventional dry vac cleaner ie Sebo BS36.
Of course there is a franchise called Bone Dry that uses the Host system, but other granules are available as well.
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Hi Guys
The main reason people associate the term dry cleaning with solvent cleaning is not the techniical one, that it doesn't use water, afterall if you were to pick up a jacket soaked in perchloroethylene you wouldn't think of it as dry BUT the fact when you collect your clothes they are dry !
Cheers
Doug
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So, might we reasonably claim we can offer a Dry Cleaning method, which will clean with minimal moisture content and will be dry within 30 minutes, possibly less.
For Hotel reception areas and similar situations, the quietness, dry in minutes advantage and walk on while we clean has a huge attraction.
Of course there's no absolutely dry, just as there is no, Always and no, Never,
Now.....................get to work !
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Fantastic.
Using Doug's example I can now market HWE as a dry cleaning method.
"After 24 hours madam your carpets will be dry."
What a great spin to use. ;D ;D ;D
Only kidding!