Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: simon smith50 on January 07, 2009, 11:55:06 am
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Just got my flipper
tried it on my house 12 windows all quite big plus two french doors
top to bottom all windows up and down done with telescopic pole all look great 10 minutes flat
never going back to wfp
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How does the thing deal with birdsmuck?
What are the results like without mopping up afterwards?
Looks like an interesting piece of kit but I'm not sure it will 100% replace wfp, but frpm what i see it looks like it has a place in the tool box.
Simon.
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what is one?and how much?
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what is one?and how much?
Here show on Youtube gives a better idea of its use!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f7vAnNErmp0&NR=1
Hope it helps
Dave
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I'll be interested to see comments about this. A few years ago there was a lot of excitment about a thing called 'Mr Longarm'. This was a very similar tool, the pole had a curve in it and the squeegee/washer head was on a swivel.
I bought one but no matter how I practised, I couldn't get the hang of it.
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I'll be interested to see comments about this. A few years ago there was a lot of excitment about a thing called 'Mr Longarm'. This was a very similar tool, the pole had a curve in it and the squeegee/washer head was on a swivel.
I bought one but no matter how I practised, I couldn't get the hang of it.
Yeah i got that, useless at it thou..lol I keep practising, but i dont have the jobs to warrant using it on anymore thou.
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Was that a can of worms i saw just now?
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probably ftp
never mind eh!
as to birdmuck don't know don't have any on my windows
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Can't be any worse than a soft brush for poo scrubbing.
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Nice to see that he's cleaning right into the corners (NOT)!!!
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whats the wagtail like doing upstairs windows from outside from ground with a pole if it can be done?
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load of rubbish, misses all the corners not a good way, good if the owner is blind lol
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Who sells them,what price are they and do they fit any pole
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Just got my flipper
tried it on my house 12 windows all quite big plus two french doors
top to bottom all windows up and down done with telescopic pole all look great 10 minutes flat
never going back to wfp
Hello Simon,
What WFP gear did you have and how long had you been using it? You have said on a previous post that "my wfp set up went months ago" Why did you get rid of your set-up months ago? What have you been using in the meantime? It sounds like you were not going to be using WFP regardless of whether the Wagtail worked or not. Why was this?
In my experience, it would be almost impossible to replace a complete WFP system and its capabilities with just a wagtail (however useful it is).
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The person does seem to have missed a bit ::) in the video. The tool maybe good but the first bit of the video they don't do a very good job. You can still see all the bits missed around the sides. ::)
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Windowcleaning Warehouse do them.
http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/index.php/Wagtail/View-all-products.html
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are these any good ?
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its a glass cleaner...and no good if you are a WINDOW cleaner...
good for inside difficult to reach areas though
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Good point, P Holley.
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That first window is hardly a good window to use as an example of the kits capabilities; due to its shape.
I did think he did a good job on the some of the later windows, that first and second one WOULD look dreadful in full sun.
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I have been using the Combie for years, It does a good job on the bottoms inside or out.
I still WFP on everything I can though.
When I have had to use a pole for some inside office windows, I preferred to use the Back flip with the applicator on one side and the blade on the other, I found the only way to do a near perfect job was to bring the blade straight down and wipe it before doing the next bit, you can wipe it on the frame if your working outside.
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I admit the video is pants. I haven't tried using with a pole. I wfp where possible. However, I use it a lot now on downstairs, bungalows, conservatories and shops. It's good and it's quick and it doesn't leave water running down the street. I wouldn't do shops wfp when there are customers coming and going, only when they are shut, so it works well for me. The bigger the window, the more useful I find it.
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Wagtail 'Orbital' Aluminium is this from window cleaning warehouse the same as the combi from omnipole?
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A nice honest review:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GDvXwQ4t-_U&feature=related
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A nice honest review:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GDvXwQ4t-_U&feature=related
Fair enough, if you have to scrub first and then blade. The Combie does it all in one, and using rinse aid in the solution lets you put a very thin film of water on the glass so you don't need much.
A thick applicator puts on a film that is much thicker, there is a big difference in the thickness of the surface film
Try this experiment to illustrate the point. Clean your van windscreen WFP and it should sheet perfectly, now drive away without using your screen wipers, you will be surprised when you see just how thick that film is.
The fine micro fibre pad on the Combie leaves a hell of a lot less water on the glass, so it goes a lot further.
I have a full range of trad tools in the van, including 2 backflips, I use the Combie for nearly all my trad work, I wouldn't if it wasn't a lot faster.
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Mine should be here tomorrow Dai, it looks ideal for insides. Does it fit in a boab easy enough or have you had to cut a slot?
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hi alex
my wfp was a bit of a some from here some from there some from somewhere else
wcw got some poles ,
cleantech got some tanks r/o and di , tucker pole ,omnipole sourced from cleantech
unger ctech from wcw, didn't get anything from ionics
didn't know of yourselves and wintecs and any others
started 4 yrs ago
trad had a fall quiet a height
started with no knowledge of window cleaning or marketing after 3 months out of work no redundancy if only
have lots of trad gear triple ladder and telescopic poles back enjoying myself
this weather no good for anyone
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Well my flipper arrived today so i've just had quarter of an hour playing with it on insides :-\
Early days obviously but straight away i thought what a load of crap it was. I find the handle vey uncomfortable to clean by hand, for some reason it makes my hand cramp up. The applicator holds little water which is a good thing for insides - less chance of sloshing fairy over that cream carpet. For pole work it would seem ideal it's like wfp cleaning with a swivel. You can't cut to the side very well because the finishing stroke will just squeeze the applicator against the frame. I don't know how everyone else is getting on but this squeegie just cries out to be dog eared, it seems impossible to clean to the edges and the rubber rides over anything.
A substitute for wfp? Only if you are very skilled - i'm not but i'm going to force myself to practice more.
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I thought the same but have practiced loads.
Great for insides. Very quick.
Will not replace wfp, just a good accessory.
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Rob what technique do you use? I find it difficult to get them to turn very tightly without skipping. Probably me, just not used to it.
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ftp, did you say you have bought a flipper? I was talking about the Combie which is a different tool.
I have dog eared both my Combie's.
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Yes Dai the Flipper. I know i sound a bit negative at the moment but i'm going to keep at it this time. How did you dog ear yours? I've seen some guy hacksaw into one and kind of bend the tabs up. Did you just bend yours?
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The combie is made from aluminium section, I just bent down the corners with pliers.
But I say again, the flipper and combie are different tools.