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Title: Remember to wrap up your carpet cleaning equipment tonight!!
Post by: Paul_Ashworth on January 06, 2009, 07:45:04 pm
Just had this E-mail from Alltec ?? Probably sent a day late for a lot of people.
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Post by: Andrew Briscoe on January 06, 2009, 07:47:45 pm
Temperature has risen a couple of degrees now and has been snowing for an hour,
think altech late as usual.

Andrew
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Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on January 06, 2009, 07:50:28 pm
I thought my pump had packed in this morning until I realized it was my solution hose frozen solid!! I dont keep the machine in the van but do keep my hoses there. First time in 5 years its ever done that so will be keeping mine somewhere warm tonight!! John
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Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on January 06, 2009, 07:59:00 pm
1.5kw heater in mine tonight mmmmmmmmm warm.
4.5 hr drive to Surrey for me in the morning hope the weather ok saetting of a 4 bugger :-\ :-\
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Post by: Mike Osbourne on January 06, 2009, 08:05:06 pm
I keep machine and tools in van but have some chems in garage. Last night I put a jug of water in there and a 5lt can also, really didnt think it would be a problem as it's well insulated.

The jug was frozen solid but the plastic can was fine. I have 10ltrs of multippro and various other stuff in there, could it be ruined?
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Post by: derek west on January 06, 2009, 08:09:40 pm
mike
simple answer, in my opinion, yes.
totally ruined
freeze a bottle of beer. then defrost it and drink it, "ruined"
someone said on an earlier thread that pre spray gold is ruined once frozen so i presume its the same for every chem.
brought all my chems in, end of september, mrs don't like it. back out end of march.
i could be wrong though. hope i am for your sake matey.
derek
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Post by: clinton on January 06, 2009, 08:10:41 pm
Mike

Just taken delivery of some boxes of chemicals so keeping them in the house tonight wont risk the garage or my back garden shed ???
Title: Re: Remember to wrap up your carpet cleaning equipment tonight!!
Post by: Mike Osbourne on January 06, 2009, 08:12:39 pm
 :'(
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Post by: clinton on January 06, 2009, 08:13:04 pm
Think your right derek as some other threads did mention froen chemichals and had to dump them :o
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Post by: Mike Osbourne on January 06, 2009, 08:18:02 pm
They weren't actually frozen but the water in a measuring jug was.

I wil try it on a polprop rug I have to do tomorrow.
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Post by: daysdeepclean on January 06, 2009, 08:21:44 pm
My solution hose was frozen this morning too, every thing is in the garage with 2 heaters running tonight.... The machine's gonna be toasty tonight!

I might join it.....
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Post by: Darren O on January 06, 2009, 08:25:50 pm
In over 4 years never had a problem with chemicals freezing but have had to replace frozen pump cassing broke and fittings on wands and hand tools.
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Post by: Gary Webber on January 06, 2009, 08:37:45 pm
A serious warning that all pumps more than anything will be under threat over the next few weeks. Please guys to avoid a costly repair/machine downtime take some action.

Preferably take your kit indoors or set up some kind of heat source into your van.

Doing nothing will just cause equipment failure!!

regards

Gary
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Post by: clinton on January 06, 2009, 08:46:32 pm
Had the van running in the garage for 15 mins with the heater on so hopefully my stuff will be ok ???
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Post by: colin thomas on January 06, 2009, 08:52:17 pm
buy some powdered pre-sprays,

colin     ;)
Title: Re: Remember to wrap up your carpet cleaning equipment tonight!!
Post by: Mike Osbourne on January 06, 2009, 08:54:20 pm
Clinton

If worried leave the light on or a lamp lead. Even a 100w bulb will make a differeince.
Title: Re: Remember to wrap up your carpet cleaning equipment tonight!!
Post by: clinton on January 06, 2009, 09:04:50 pm
Mike

Might try that as the cold could get it then :(


Thanks


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Post by: will01 on January 06, 2009, 09:16:30 pm
We have oil heating in the house and our boiler is in the garage so just keep all equipment in van. Although it's always very cold in the morning it's never freezing. Think the boiler keeps it just above freezing

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Post by: M.Acorn on January 06, 2009, 10:04:36 pm
Oh no don`t say that ! i have at least 12 5 ltr containers of chems in my van,all pretty much full ! my liquid de foamer was frozen the other day p/s/gold was like slush puppy don`t say they are scrap too !
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Post by: mark shannon on January 06, 2009, 10:09:47 pm
Prespray Gold freezes for some reason very easily Ive noticed over the last few years ???
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Post by: Ricky M on January 06, 2009, 11:20:28 pm
Got spanked by the frost today so bad that couldn start my 1st job today, both machines frozen , pump spray too but not the Gloria ?
Lesson lernt ;)
2Kw heater with control on all nite ;D ;D

 Ricky
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Post by: Andrew Briscoe on January 06, 2009, 11:26:37 pm
Its now 1 degree above here, still snowing, about 4-5 "

Andrew
Title: Re: Remember to wrap up your carpet cleaning equipment tonight!!
Post by: Ricky M on January 06, 2009, 11:32:55 pm
its -1 here no snow yet
Ricky
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Post by: derek west on January 06, 2009, 11:36:43 pm
zero here but feels colder cos of all the ice on the ground, no snow but if its on its way down from cumbria then it'll be here soon. eek!
derek
Title: Re: Remember to wrap up your carpet cleaning equipment tonight!!
Post by: Andrew Briscoe on January 06, 2009, 11:45:31 pm
Derek, started of light flakes at 5pm should be with you soon as its heading south

Andrew
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Post by: richie on January 07, 2009, 05:35:29 am
A couple of years ago i plaace a halogen heater to the left handside (nearest the cab).  I checked the van before going to bed and all seemed fine,  the outside temp was -4/-5  The following morning i went out to the van & before starting the machine i checked the water in the header tank, it was very cold but not frozen so started the TM.  All was ok however,  my solution hose, garden hose, wand, handtool & sprayers were frozen.  Luckily just 1 of the wand valves required replacment.  So the 2kw halogen heater had kept 1 wand that was to the left of the machine & the TM above freezing.  Everything further to the back of the van was frozen.  The following evening was due to be -4/-5 again so i placed the heater in the middle of the van & the following morning everything was ok although there was ice on 1 of the male quick release connectors that had slight drip on the front of the machine.  The van was a Transit Jumbo so there was alot of space for the heater to cover.  Had the van been medium wb i think it would have been ok.  Just thought id let you guys know of my past experience.  I think that the van really should have had 1 heater either end of the cargo area.  I also think that if i had placed a blow heater into the van instead of the halogen heater then all would have been ok.

Richie.
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Post by: Ian Rochester on January 07, 2009, 05:54:24 am
I think for once us "up north" are getting away with it, just got up this morning and it's +2 deg outside, no sign of frost on the vehicles.

Looking at the forcasts some of you will be hitting -9 degrees last night, hope you have them machines wrapped up nice and warm.

This panel heater is ideal to fit on the bulkhead of your van as a permanent fix, cheap to buy and very cheap to run, gives off enough heat to keep the frost away.

www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/categories/search/panel-heaters (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/categories/search/panel-heaters)
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Post by: clinton on January 07, 2009, 08:51:10 am
Snow here in cheshire ::)
Title: Re: Remember to wrap up your carpet cleaning equipment tonight!!
Post by: Ricky M on January 07, 2009, 09:23:25 am
No snow No frost ere staffs/derbyshire .
2kw fan heater did the job
off to work  ;D ;D
Ricky
 
Title: Re: Remember to wrap up your carpet cleaning equipment tonight!!
Post by: JandS on January 07, 2009, 09:48:00 am
Raining here.
Don't most chemicals have a lower freezing point than water?

John
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Post by: Joe H on January 07, 2009, 06:32:13 pm
For those just sticking a heater in the back of the van - be it flat panel or oil filled, put a fan in as well, even if its a 6" desk fan.
Keep the air circulating, more chance of the warm air getting to places where just a static heater wont reach - cold corners.
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Post by: Gary Webber on January 07, 2009, 06:34:54 pm
Reporter just been on News Channel, showing water tanker dishing out water in Wales as parts hit -12 and the water supply froze!

Crazy weather, oil filled radiator cranked up in van!!

Gary
Title: Re: Remember to wrap up your carpet cleaning equipment tonight!!
Post by: JS2 on January 07, 2009, 09:47:51 pm
I guess a telephone call to the solution manufacturer's Chemistry Department, if at all possible, would confirm if certain cleaning solutions are damaged by freezing.  In any case it should reduce any uncertainty regarding future effectiveness or the need to replace.

Regards

Pete (JS2)