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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mr T on December 29, 2008, 07:37:41 pm

Title: new van
Post by: Mr T on December 29, 2008, 07:37:41 pm
Hi folks, getting a van/used just wanting a bit of advice.  I viewed renualt traffic today 64000 on the clock its an 04 plate £5000.  Are these good vehicles, does anyone use them??

Cheers....
Title: Re: new van
Post by: NWH on December 29, 2008, 07:41:53 pm
WOW that sounds well overpriced to me,for another 5k you can get a nearly brand new 1 these days.Is that + vat aswell some of the prices i`ve seen i would say £3500 is more like it for that,but saying that i wouldn`t go near 1 of them with that mileage.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: Mr T on December 29, 2008, 07:43:07 pm
The vat has to go on top of that also.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: niceandclean on December 29, 2008, 07:47:21 pm
I noticed yesterday that Renualt are doing 0% over 4 years with £99.00 deposit. Did not read any small print, maybe worth looking at, at your local dealer!
Title: Re: new van
Post by: NWH on December 29, 2008, 07:49:07 pm
I would forget it if i were you,far to much money for that why don`t you look around and buy slightly newer if you can there giving them away or they will be come the new year.On new ford vans there doing 3 years warranty and 3 years free servicing at the moment to try and get punters in,you`ll save the best part of 2k with the free servicing.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: NWH on December 29, 2008, 07:51:21 pm
I noticed yesterday that Renualt are doing 0% over 4 years with £99.00 deposit. Did not read any small print, maybe worth looking at, at your local dealer!
Yes they are and they also expect you to have the lot over 4yrs with only the vat down,they won`t let you put a large deposit down and then have 0% it only applies if you something like the best part of 15-16k over 4yrs.Like you say the small print.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: niceandclean on December 29, 2008, 08:12:33 pm
If your getting 0% over 4 years and they only want a minimal deposit, why would you want to put a large deposit down?
Title: Re: new van
Post by: tomy jackson on December 29, 2008, 08:14:38 pm
new hiace
Title: Re: new van
Post by: NWH on December 29, 2008, 08:18:37 pm
If your getting 0% over 4 years and they only want a minimal deposit, why would you want to put a large deposit down?
You can only get that offer if you pay£15-16k all told for the van,if you pay cash you get a considerable amount off and by that i mean up to 3k.If you choose the 0% deal you get it interest free but it`s going to cost you long term for it because the overall price of the van is more,they give you nothing.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: trevor povey on December 29, 2008, 08:24:14 pm
tags look at auto trader online to view these vans do yo want lwb or swb?

renault trafic,vauxhall vivaro,nissan primastar are all the same van so have a look at them all.

off subject I looked at these vans and with a bit of negotiating for around 5500/5600 you can get a 56 plate one with approx 50 on the clock....the ones which are private sale may not have vat added on,others from a trader 98% of the time will have vat added on ...not a problem though if you are vat registered!
Title: Re: new van
Post by: dd on December 29, 2008, 08:54:18 pm
Have been a lot of negative posts on this site about the poor reliability the trafic/primastar/vivaro vans. I would do some research to check if this criticism is warranted.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 29, 2008, 09:02:21 pm
Have been a lot of negative posts on this site about the poor reliability the trafic/primastar/vivaro vans. I would do some research to check if this criticism is warranted.

I agree. Wouldn't touch anything Renault.

Buy new. Spread the cost over 3/4 years.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: niceandclean on December 29, 2008, 10:18:29 pm
If your getting 0% over 4 years and they only want a minimal deposit, why would you want to put a large deposit down?
You can only get that offer if you pay£15-16k all told for the van,if you pay cash you get a considerable amount off and by that i mean up to 3k.If you choose the 0% deal you get it interest free but it`s going to cost you long term for it because the overall price of the van is more,they give you nothing.

But FSA rules state that you cannot discriminate against a cash or a finance deal! So if you pushed, you would get both.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: NWH on December 29, 2008, 10:32:59 pm
Cash as in buy outright.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: sean.w.c.s on December 30, 2008, 08:09:46 am
hi if you want a gud second hand van  that been looked after ring these guys. The van franchise ltd. 01472 816635 ask for paul or sean. it is in grimsby but they do a top after sale service and van are at a gud price. the website is www.thevanfranchise.co.uk. its best to ring and tell them want you want.
we got are van from here going to get another from here. say sean and donna sent you.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: ftp on December 30, 2008, 08:25:17 am
I would forget it if i were you,far to much money for that why don`t you look around and buy slightly newer if you can there giving them away or they will be come the new year.On new ford vans there doing 3 years warranty and 3 years free servicing at the moment to try and get punters in,you`ll save the best part of 2k with the free servicing.

How does free servicing save 2k?
Title: Re: new van
Post by: dd on December 30, 2008, 04:37:00 pm
Check the Nissan Primastar topic. It is the same vehicle as the traffic and vivaro.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: RPCCS on December 30, 2008, 05:48:03 pm
I personally don't believe in buying new, not considering the nature of the joe , carting ladders around ,in and out of farmyards etc, a new vehicle will not make me any more money , just cost me more. Fair enough you could say in theory a newer van will be less likely to cause problems than an older 1 but thats not always the case.
Years ago my grandad and uncle both bought identical brand new cars on the same day from the same garage, one car was no trouble at all , the other was nothing but trouble , in and out of the garage from the 1st week, eventually my grandad sold it back to the garage and bought a cheap runabout car  for a few hundred quid and had no bother at all, ran it for years,until he died. My dad had a business that required a van, his 1st one cost £350, and he ran it to the ground, followed by 2 further vans the same .  His last van cost nearly 2grand and was nowt but bother from day 1.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: NWH on December 30, 2008, 05:52:41 pm
Not new but nearly new,the thing is prices are coming down and the difference is not as big as it was a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: poole bay on December 30, 2008, 09:52:57 pm
if you got the work to pay for the van, any van would do? i have a van just got it spent 5,000 i pay 150 back a month on a loan just get a van its all pot luck if you do not buy brand new.


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Title: Re: new van
Post by: dd on December 30, 2008, 10:00:39 pm
When I started wfp I wanted a Citroen Dispatch 2.0hdi 12-18months old. I got such a good deal on a new one, the van specialist I asked to find me a second hand one couldn't beat it. I used a vehicle broker on the internet to source a new van and also got a very competive quote from a local Peugeot dealer on an Expert which I nearly went with.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: NWH on December 30, 2008, 10:03:05 pm
How much did you pay then and how much did the broker save you.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: rugby on December 31, 2008, 01:27:35 pm
for gods sake dont do it, unless you can afford a brand new renualt vivaro/traffic etc etc and will be able to change it before its 3 years old then i wouldnt even think about getting one, once they have a few miles on the clock they tend to self destruct.

do your wallet a favour and get a tranny/vw or some other van anything but an ageing renualt/vauxhall
Title: Re: new van
Post by: dd on December 31, 2008, 07:06:21 pm
Around £11,500 in Feb 2006. This was about 2k less than a local dealer offered me. Though a local peugeot dealer offered me a new expert about the same price - it only had one sliding door and 2 seats in front as opposed to 3 on dispatch. Been very good van to date.

Bound to be some very gooddeals about now.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: NWH on December 31, 2008, 07:38:01 pm
Some dealers i spoke to quoted upwards of £15.000.
Title: Re: new van
Post by: dd on December 31, 2008, 08:43:15 pm
I got the van from Barkers Motor Group who seem to do some very competitive deals and although they were the other end of the country offered free delivery.

The other competitive qoute I got for the Expert was from the Peugeot dealer in Harlow, very similar price to Dispatch.

Both prices were on the road incl. VAT and for the 2.0hdi. I know the dispatch/expert/scudo has since been updated but if dealers aren't offering good deals at the moment they simply will not be selling vehicles.