Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: geefree on December 14, 2008, 11:19:04 pm
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What are the pitfalls, in your opinion.. of using the water fed pole system,
and what do you like about it most.
I Love the speed of it... and i hate the dirty hoses wrapping around my legs, and tripping over it, and it snagging on everything.
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Its a lot harder work having to carry such a full wallet round.
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Crap for first cleans and upstairs cills - diabolical system. Hose tangles and snags, high cost.
Brilliant on regular nearly clean houses and of course high reach windows.
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Crap for first cleans and upstairs cills - diabolical system. Hose tangles and snags, high cost.
Brilliant on regular nearly clean houses and of course high reach windows.
What a 24 carrat idiot you are ftp,if you want to earn get a WFP if you want a livin get a ladder and bucket.
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The biggest drawback for me is not seeing the end result.
It doesn't matter much now as i have more experience of it, but when i 1st got it i had a few problems with the finish on certain types of windows.
The best thing is the speed a job can be safely done, once they have come up good 1st time with wfp.
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No pit falls. Excellent.
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Crap for first cleans and upstairs cills - diabolical system. Hose tangles and snags, high cost.
Brilliant on regular nearly clean houses and of course high reach windows.
I would say it's the best thing ever on first cleans. I'm not saying you are doing something wrong, but the transformation that you can bring to a house using wfp is phenomenal. Upstairs sills, mmmyea, I would say it can be a pain, purely because you just can't see it, but once they are clean, and you do them every time, they should stay reasonably clean.
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It is the best thing I have ever done for my business. Safer, faster and more efficient. Of course to get these benefits you do have to spend some time and effort maintaining the systems etc. and researching methods and equipment. In my mind this is not a downside just the way life works.
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Wfp does have a downside...you cant use it indoors...well you can if you want to spend a fortune.
It is a safe and profitable method of cleaning exterior windows,cladding and fascias and as a previous trad cleaner using ladders i would thoroughly recommend wfp to anyone.
However i suggest that all wc's learn to use trad gear as it is definatly needed sometimes.
:)
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Same for me. I switched over last year and haven't looked back. Actual work is quicker, safer and more efficiant. Theres nothing negative about it. Though preperation work is obviously more time consuming than with trad. Eg Filling tank every night.
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Wfp does have a downside...you cant use it indoors...well you can if you want to spend a fortune.
It is a safe and profitable method of cleaning exterior windows,cladding and fascias and as a previous trad cleaner using ladders i would thoroughly recommend wfp to anyone.
However i suggest that all wc's learn to use trad gear as it is definatly needed sometimes.
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Absolutely, I would recommend that to every starting window cleaner as well. Traditional skills are invaluable to know, not just for doing the insides, but you do get an understanding of cleaning windows that you don't necessarily get with wfp.
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Pitfalls:
Dragging the hose through dogs mess.
Hose coming disconnected from the pole and getting water squirted up your leg.
Some div parking on your hose whilst you're round the back.
Water bill.
+points:
No freezing ally ladders.
No black hands from ladders.
No walking dogs mess up every rung, and not realizing till you're on your way down.
Twice as fast.
Not turning down jobs cos the ground is eneven.
People saying 'ooh, thats a big one' instead of 'you missed a bit'
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Pros...
In 2 years from nothing I am now at home (round was built and able to get me a mortgage) at 15:15 having done my allocated work for the day...tank is full for tommorrow and all admin is done.
Start most days at 09:00 and normally home by 3.
WFP can be quick and is gets the job done.
Cons:
Not really being able to see the end result, this really concerns me sometimes.
Hoses getting snagged on the 1 single possible place that it could.
Have to keep sending money to Alex. G everytime he comes out with a new brush ;D
Not really being able to see the end result.
Not really being able to see the end result.
Cheers
Dave
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Pitfalls:
Dragging the hose through dogs mess.
Hose coming disconnected from the pole and getting water squirted up your leg.
Some div parking on your hose whilst you're round the back.
Water bill.
+points:
No freezing ally ladders.
No black hands from ladders.
No walking dogs mess up every rung, and not realizing till you're on your way down.
Twice as fast.
Not turning down jobs cos the ground is eneven.
People saying 'ooh, thats a big one' instead of 'you missed a bit'
;D ;D ;D
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i cant think of any bad points,yeah sometimes u need to do a reclean,but it takes 2 mins to do and keeps the customer happy that ure willing to do it,loads quicker,safer and even more practical in certain areas,would never go back to ladders
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The best thing is that it makes you appreciate how hard you used to work when using ladders,i still can`t beleive how much work i`ve got through some days.
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agree with everything been said here only downside is how hard it is on our upper body really looking forward to time off this christmas for a recharge
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The best thing is that it makes you appreciate how hard you used to work when using ladders,i still can`t beleive how much work i`ve got through some days.
i thought that today , when i was feeling tired, ow did i get through years of ladderr work????? ::)
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Can cost alot of money when things go wrong but can do conservitory roofs with ease.
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best thing i ever done, :P :P :P :P
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I`ve had to use cold water these last couple of days and have found myself moaning about that lol,i`d take cold WFP over ladders any day though but i do miss my warm pole. ;D
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The best thing is that it makes you appreciate how hard you used to work when using ladders,i still can`t beleive how much work i`ve got through some days.
Thats the truth
I now find i can work slightly longer days and slightly longer weeks as i am not so tired all this adds up to about a 50% increase in turnover which is good
The downside as has already been said is not seeing the end result and hose catching on the one thing it could possibly get caught on even though it was no where near it
Would never go back not now
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Doesn't always remove bird poo, insect spots and especially snail/caterpillar trails. You can easily leave a mark on a window and not see it because the glass is wet.
Also worry about long term effect on wooden sills and window lower edge.
More potential hassles with equipment - RO, pumps etc.
There are upsides but am in a downside mood :P
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WFP - Worst - Maintence and ongoing expense.
Best - Easier, quicker, less tiring, etc, etc