Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: edd on December 12, 2008, 10:36:56 pm
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for the second time the side door no .....lets picture the scene first we were
indicating right at a busy junction waiting for a space to pull out. Then a space
and we pulled away only TO SEE the side door cartwheeling behind us for the second time causing a whole lot of damage like you wouldn't believe
This door was closed properly but its not the first time it has opened.I have only
just last week had new fittings on the door to try and cure the problem but this is
the last straw in my opinon
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the bonnet on my vivaro flung open tonight and smashed my windscreen at 60mph tonight. my worker was lucky he didn't get injured. i keep trying to like these vans but things keep braking on it
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Guess what.... had the first mot last fri and they left the bonnet open lucky for us
I spotted it before any damage but 3 hours later but then the exhaust fell off I kid
you not and an hour later the door came off the runners and nearly fell on the floor
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You can still like them, doesn’t mean they are any good!
you can't like them when you foot the bill! you tend to hate everything about them ;)
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never again transit for me next time or vw
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i'm gonna buy vans brand new next time. i don't think it will be a vivaro/renault now at all. they have not filled me with any faith.
i like the new transits my older one is as reliable as they come
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yeah and a strange fact the swb transit is the same size as the lwb traffic
in the back well my pole fits in the swb transit and the same room as my traffic
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cant believe what i am reading... doors and bonnets coming off whilst driving :o :o
i had read that they had trouble with gear boxes, when i was looking for a van.... so glad i chose a transit.
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cant believe what i am reading... doors and bonnets coming off whilst driving :o :o
i had read that they had trouble with gear boxes, when i was looking for a van.... so glad i chose a transit.
Can't believe it either!!! So dangerous!!! :o :o
lol at these new vans, my 11 year old Berlingo hasn't got any problems, or has had any problems, ever!
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Something wrong with you.
Never had any problems with my Trafic.
Best van by miles.
Waaaaaayyyyy better than any Transit crap. ;) :P
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lol... transit crap... they have been around since the 60s, well known for easy to work on.. parts easy available..( not 4 different countrys parts in the engine)... reliable, robust.. the list goes on...
time has told with transits... time will tell with the great pretender...
or has it told already.?
get yer" bonnet "on and leave by the" side "door ;D ;D ;D
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There are good and bad things about every van, we have a Trafic with 80K on it and it's a lovely van to drive, we also have two Fiat Ducatos each with 50K+ on the clocks which we have had from new with no problems at all.
The Transit is a workhorse and the vehicle of choice for the building trade, however one of my neighbours has a 05 plate Transit and it's got rust spots all over it already. I see loads of transits that are not very old and covered in rust.
I like the VW but too expensive for what you get and small inside.
Had a look at a Toyota Hiace LWB recently and that looks like a nice van, drives well and has the Toyota build quality, two million asian market stall holders can't all be wrong!!
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Something wrong with you.
Never had any problems with my Trafic.
Best van by miles.
Waaaaaayyyyy better than any Transit crap. ;) :P
If you only drive 20 miles a week you shouldn't get any problems Rog. :)
Is that right that you've started to get a bit more adventurous and now work three streets away from home?
At least you won't need a satnav.
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lol... transit crap... they have been around since the 60s, well known for easy to work on.. parts easy available..( not 4 different countrys parts in the engine)... reliable, robust.. the list goes on...
time has told with transits... time will tell with the great pretender...
or has it told already.?
get yer" bonnet "on and leave by the" side "door ;D ;D ;D
The old transits were great but the new ones have lots of problems with the engines. Its something to do with the fact that they had to change the engine when the emissions laws changed. The timing chain jumped the sprockets and wrecked the cylinder head on ours when it was 18months old. Fortunately it was still under warranty otherwise it would have cost thousands. Its a common problem apparantly.
Its not just vans, the new emissions regulations (Euro 3 etc) will cause all current cars and vans to have short engine lives and/or big bills because they are having to run so weak and have complicated engine management systems.
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VW T4 for me.... Ex-AA van so loads of upgrades on it, plus its galvanised so no worries about rust.
Its only 10cm longer and the same width as the new Scudo types but with much more space inside due to the shorter bonnet. It also has a smaller turning circle so great for parking.
Regards
Mr H
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Mr H
The t4 isnt galvanized, the T5 is, which is one of the reasons it is the best van on the road.
I have got a T4 , a T5 and a merc vito., the T5 is head and shoulders above them all.
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when i used to work for a window cleaning firm we were supplied with new masters, they were alright for the 1st 20-30,000 miles after that the started having problems, like wiring looms, gearbox,3 clutch slave cylinders,power steering,sliding doors
im out for a new van at the mo,i am only considering , transits & vw,but when you see the price of masters/movano i can help feeling tempted,the savings will soon be easily swallowed up if it needs a new gearbox etc :-\
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hiace and they use them con verted miny bus as taxys as well. toy hilux its got same engine box, ext . and clarkson failure as he cud not destoy it so wot chane do window cleaers have of wrecking one , if thers a confict in the the world they all driving hilux or landcrusers , if toy wos unreliable thay woodent be useing them
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All deisels now run the CDI (or similar named) system to meet Euro 4 Standards.
The high pressures that theses sytems run at will cause problems on all makes, some makes it happens earlier.
Mercedes are notorious.
All vehicles will have problems of some nature, there are alot of parts to a vehicle, some are going to fail at some time or other, doesn't make it any more easy to accept when it happens though.
Luck plays a major part in ownership of any vehicle, but you can cut the odds down by going for a Japanese vehicle, as for VW and Merc, I have had many problems both with cars and vans from these manufacturers (inclusive of Audi and Skoda)
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There plenty of general information about quality and reliability of different vans on CIU, magazines, internet, television and reputation etc.
There’s usually not much difference in price when you consider how long you are going to keep the van, but people will still try and save a few thousand pounds at the start and get a van that will last them years but will cost more in time and money throughout ownership.
Unless you have lots of surplus cash you shouldn’t even consider buying a van based on how you think it looks or whether you get cup holders, AC and CD player etc. It works and gets you to work without worry is the first thing to consider.
Besides being one of the most unreliable vans on the road, Primastar. Traffic and Vivaro they look rubbish. People who think they are reliable most probably think they look good, goes hand in hand.
Fact is if you have a closer look at them, they look rubbish ;D
Whatever... ::)
Envious? Have a Fiat have we? ;D
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If you only drive 20 miles a week you shouldn't get any problems Rog. :)
Is that right that you've started to get a bit more adventurous and now work three streets away from home?
At least you won't need a satnav.
I don't work anywhere near my house Shiner. ???
I won't do any houses in my estate.
Not posh enough to be my customers.
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I love these this van vs that van topics, they're great when you're thinking of getting a new van yourself soon :)
I like the look of the new trafic/ps/viv and they're supposed to be a lovely drive, but as a problematic scudo driver I want to go for reliability with my next van.
I think transits look dated, know they'll probably be reliable, but they'll most likely drive like a big van.
a toyota would probably be bullet proof but they LOOK like a market traders van and have no large panels for signwriting.
that leaves vw for the size of van I want, but they're expensive?
stil not decided, and what's the difference between a t5 and a t4. is a t5 just newer?
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If you only drive 20 miles a week you shouldn't get any problems Rog. :)
Is that right that you've started to get a bit more adventurous and now work three streets away from home?
At least you won't need a satnav.
I don't work anywhere near my house Shiner. ???
I won't do any houses in my estate.
Not posh enough to be my customers.
i was gonna mention that as well. if you give your van a REAL test of work you will see how reliable it is ;D
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If you only drive 20 miles a week you shouldn't get any problems Rog. :)
Is that right that you've started to get a bit more adventurous and now work three streets away from home?
At least you won't need a satnav.
I don't work anywhere near my house Shiner. ???
I won't do any houses in my estate.
Not posh enough to be my customers.
i was gonna mention that as well. if you give your van a REAL test of work you will see how reliable it is ;D
I do use my van for work.
What are you on about? ???
It's very reliable.
All the people I know with one have had no problems either. ;)
Jealousy is very ugly.
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your funny mate! ;D ;D
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never again transit for me next time or vw
Transits are so robust,great vans all round!
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If you only drive 20 miles a week you shouldn't get any problems Rog. :)
Is that right that you've started to get a bit more adventurous and now work three streets away from home?
At least you won't need a satnav.
I don't work anywhere near my house Shiner. ???
I won't do any houses in my estate.
Not posh enough to be my customers.
Yeah. I've got the same problem Rog :) . The town where I live is mostly terraced houses with no access to the back so I have to go out of town for most of my work. There are areas with semis and detached though but it's mostly ex council estate. No problem about that except for the access (and I include parking in that).
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If you only drive 20 miles a week you shouldn't get any problems Rog. :)
Is that right that you've started to get a bit more adventurous and now work three streets away from home?
At least you won't need a satnav.
I don't work anywhere near my house Shiner. ???
I won't do any houses in my estate.
Not posh enough to be my customers.
i was gonna mention that as well. if you give your van a REAL test of work you will see how reliable it is ;D
I do use my van for work.
What are you on about? ???
It's very reliable.
All the people I know with one have had no problems either. ;)
Jealousy is very ugly.
I've got a Trafic too Rog. Needed a gearbox replaced at 39,000 miles. Ouch !!. Even bigger ouch if it hadn't been under warranty. I've never trusted it properly since that but it has pereformed OK apart from that. Nice drive but I wonder if some of the bits are a bit fragile for a load bearing van. I reckon I've got mine for another three years yet (two years left on loan and a year without any repayments). I'll be grateful if it lasts that long without major replacements being made as I would like it as a contribution to the next deposit (if anyone is still lending money by then).
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VW T5, T32
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I'll be grateful if it lasts that long without major replacements being made
no chance. it would of had so many new parts by then it will be like a brand new van!! ;D ;D
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There plenty of general information about quality and reliability of different vans on CIU, magazines, internet, television and reputation etc.
There’s usually not much difference in price when you consider how long you are going to keep the van, but people will still try and save a few thousand pounds at the start and get a van that will last them years but will cost more in time and money throughout ownership.
Unless you have lots of surplus cash you shouldn’t even consider buying a van based on how you think it looks or whether you get cup holders, AC and CD player etc. It works and gets you to work without worry is the first thing to consider.
Besides being one of the most unreliable vans on the road, Primastar. Traffic and Vivaro they look rubbish. People who think they are reliable most probably think they look good, goes hand in hand.
Fact is if you have a closer look at them, they look rubbish ;D
Whatever... ::)
Envious? Have a Fiat have we? ;D
Is Fiat the only make worse than yours? So you can’t mention any others.
;D ;D ;D ;D
They're pretty much all worse.
Renault make crap cars, but they're world leaders in vans and lorries.
Nice try though. ;)
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There plenty of general information about quality and reliability of different vans on CIU, magazines, internet, television and reputation etc.
There’s usually not much difference in price when you consider how long you are going to keep the van, but people will still try and save a few thousand pounds at the start and get a van that will last them years but will cost more in time and money throughout ownership.
Unless you have lots of surplus cash you shouldn’t even consider buying a van based on how you think it looks or whether you get cup holders, AC and CD player etc. It works and gets you to work without worry is the first thing to consider.
Besides being one of the most unreliable vans on the road, Primastar. Traffic and Vivaro they look rubbish. People who think they are reliable most probably think they look good, goes hand in hand.
Fact is if you have a closer look at them, they look rubbish ;D
Whatever... ::)
Envious? Have a Fiat have we? ;D
Is Fiat the only make worse than yours? So you can’t mention any others.
;D ;D ;D ;D
They're pretty much all worse.
Renault make crap cars, but they're world leaders in vans and lorries.
Nice try though. ;)
your deluded ::)
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Everyone i know that has or has had a transit has only good things to say about them.
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your deluded ::)
Ok.
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at least we agree on something then eh? ;)
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Everyone i know that has or has had a transit has only good things to say about them.
Ford repeats van reliability success
Ford Motor Company
Ford wins Most Reliable Van Manufacturer Overall 2007 & 2008
Ford Transit voted Most Reliable Model 2007 & 2008
Ford Transit Connect awarded second place as Most Reliable Model 2007 & 2008
The Ford Transit, promoted as "the backbone of Britain", has come top of an industry reliability survey based on more than 150,000 commercial vehicles.
With an additional runner-up award for the Ford Transit Connect, Ford took the title as the Most Reliable Manufacturer.
Steve Kimber, commercial vehicles director, Ford of Britain, said: "It is fantastic to see British businesses giving recognition to the vans that get the job done. Transit and its sibling, Connect, deliver a great ownership experience due to their low running costs, durability and reliability."
The survey, conducted by Fleet News (the UK’s leading trade magazine for company car operators), is based on feedback from multitudes of fleet vehicles and is the largest survey of its kind in the world.
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Renault piece of .... the insurance guy is coming on Monday and it should be in by Tuesday to be fixed
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how can I feel safe I mean the door just opened and the force of pulling away just ripped it off
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I'll be grateful if it lasts that long without major replacements being made
no chance. it would of had so many new parts by then it will be like a brand new van!! ;D ;D
Thanks for the encouragement :) .
Well it's had the gearbox, power steering pump, rear discs, an engine mounting, and a clutch master cylinder (previous owner) replaced so there's plenty more that could go wrong with it yet. I was spoilt with my first van (a Nissan Sunny so too small for WFP) as things rarely went wrong with it. I eventually sold that with 142,000 on the clock and it still had it's original clutch. Mind you, it did need a handbrake cable replacing (which helps explain why the clutch was OK).
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i always look on carsurvey.org, they give users comments on any car or van
http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_87474.html
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i always look on carsurvey.org, they give users comments on any car or van
http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_87474.html
Single out the bits you want to read...?
http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_68779.html
I rest my case.
All vans go wrong when fat builders and delivery drivers abuse them.
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the front wheel drive transits are supposed to problems as well as pre 52 plate,
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the front wheel drive transits are supposed to problems as well as pre 52 plate,
i have had 3 transits (all pre 52) and my dad has had numerous transit minibuses and unless your into starlight miles they have all been good reliable wagons.
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always had transits , i do agree i dont think the built quality is as good as what it used to be but i still like them, i think that generally across the board they are still a pretty good van. just my opinion ;)
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The new Tarsit sport looks really nice and not silly money when compared to other vans,saw 1 the other day £14000 + vat on an 08 plate with 500 miles.
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We use an Mitsubishi L200 Warrior bouble cab, thats 5 man crew cab Black, has nice refinements all leather, aircon, sat nav, DVD PLAYER and is solid as a Rock!
Plus the added bonus of 4x4. Would not want any other vehicle!
So far not had any issues on them... well I had a guy hit me up the rear at 60mph! His vehicle was a right off. He did not even brake! Still only a few scratches on mine... all repaired... but bought a newer model now.
Dave
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very nice , only trouble with a nice vehicle like that is , it will bring out the green eyed monster in your custys,
you will also have a harder job justifying price increases.
daz
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Renault piece of .... the insurance guy is coming on Monday and it should be in by Tuesday to be fixed
so lets be clear as to what you are saying..........
you really rate the renault traffic then ;D
daz
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The new Tarsit sport looks really nice and not silly money when compared to other vans,saw 1 the other day £14000 + vat on an 08 plate with 500 miles.
you can then change your company name to 'chav window cleaning?' ;D ;D
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If i got a Transit that would be the 1 i`d get i`m afraid as there the only 1 that dosen`t look like a box from the back,with the extra bits on the sport it makes it look more streamlined and less boxy if you know what i mean.
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its a tool to make money not a fashion parade ;)
if the didn't have the viper stripes on them they would look decent but to decent for an employee to drive!!!
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If you go for a darker colour that don`t look so ladish.
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i thought they only come with blue and white stripes. or white with blue stripes
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Black-silver-blue i think.
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We use an Mitsubishi L200 Warrior bouble cab, thats 5 man crew cab Black, has nice refinements all leather, aircon, sat nav, DVD PLAYER and is solid as a Rock!
Plus the added bonus of 4x4. Would not want any other vehicle!
So far not had any issues on them... well I had a guy hit me up the rear at 60mph! His vehicle was a right off. He did not even brake! Still only a few scratches on mine... all repaired... but bought a newer model now.
Dave
60mph? A few scratches?
Don't you mean 6mph? ;D
You'd be dead if it was 60mph.
Did it kill a few sheep and break some of the bales though?
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It wouldnt if he was doing 60mph as well
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iv had sum one head on in to a van i wos towing 70 m and thay all warked a way she only lost a toth she wos ped
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It wouldnt if he was doing 60mph as well
But then the other guy would have to be doing 61mph. ;D
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Ive had my Nissan Primaster for 2 years got it new in Dec 2006 so far mechanically no problems and have done over 19000 miles but there has been a few minor problems like the fuel gauge it jumps from 4bars to 1bar and then back to 4 again but seems to be working ok again.The oil gauge jumps from half full to empty on a weekly basis and now the hand brake light and stop light started to come on to when driving just cant be arsed taking it to a garage.Another thing the drivers door handle has started to fall apart but saying all that i love the van and when i buy another van i will probably buy the same one.
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Just got a letter from Nissan today there is a vehicle recall with my Nissan Primaster ive to go to my local Nissan dealer ASAP as there is a fault with the hand brake cable wich may result in the hand brake not braking. Additionally there is also a problem with the engine Harness"there is a possability that the Air Pipe may damage the Harness.Ultimately this can lead to engine stall or failure to start the engine.Makes me wonder how good the van actually is.
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and the story continues..... ::)
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...yawn... ::)
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...yawn... ::)
its funny squeaks. i have a vivaro. you go on like i ain't got one ::) why would i go on about the reliability so much if i didn't know what i was talking about? what mileage has your van got?
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Just got back from the van auctions & 1 of the vivaros went by the door was opened by a guy viewing & it dropped of its hinges! I wouldnt touch 1!
I know that theres not problems with all of these vans but way to many to take a chance on.
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Just got back from the van auctions & 1 of the vivaros went by the door was opened by a guy viewing & it dropped of its hinges! I wouldnt touch 1!
I know that theres not problems with all of these vans but way to many to take a chance on.
No more than any other vans. ::)
Depends who's owned them.
Mine is mint inside and out.
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...yawn... ::)
its funny squeaks. i have a vivaro. you go on like i ain't got one ::) why would i go on about the reliability so much if i didn't know what i was talking about? what mileage has your van got?
Obviously your's is well used, so the model is irrelevent.
Any second hand van can give you bother.
Mine?
9000 miles.
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...yawn... ::)
its funny squeaks. i have a vivaro. you go on like i ain't got one ::) why would i go on about the reliability so much if i didn't know what i was talking about? what mileage has your van got?
Obviously your's is well used, so the model is irrelevent.
Any second hand van can give you bother.
Mine?
9000 miles.
so about as much mileage as a vicar going to church on a sunday ::) i would expect yours to be reliable, i would be SERIOUSLY worried if i were having trouble at 9000 miles, but don't rule it out eh? ;) i think the evidence is plain to see. of course its all down to the individual but from having 3 transits and 1 vivaro the comparison is no where near for the vivaro unfortunatly. even the guy i bought the vivaro off said they come back to him with problems and the transits don't. maybe i should of had alarm bells ringing then. they do look nice and thats why i went for one. but are tools of the trade suppose to look nice? i think there suppose to just be reliable. so more fool me. all my vans are relatively low miles apart from 1 transit i had, i think, and just no comparison between the 2.
doors falling off, bonnets opening on their own, gears that don't work, alternators failing, head gaskets blowing...the list goes on ::)
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They don’t look nice, and I’m sure they look worse to there owners when they go wrong.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i disagree, hence why they are so popular cause it ain't the reliability ;D ;D
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very nice , only trouble with a nice vehicle like that is , it will bring out the green eyed monster in your custys,
you will also have a harder job justifying price increases.
daz
Not really. Just tell them you need an increase to help pay for it ;D
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Did you get your safety recall in the post today?
Apparantly there is a chance the handbrake may release when the vehicle is parked on some Renault Traffics.
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They don’t look nice, and I’m sure they look worse to there owners when they go wrong.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i disagree, hence why they are so popular cause it ain't the reliability ;D ;D
Wrong actually.
They're popular because they're good vans.
The AA use virtually nothing else.
They need reliability.
I think they'd know... ::)
Just because you bought a lemon don't tar everybody's the same.
Transits are far less reliable.
They always have been.
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squeaky you can underline your words as much as you like mate. ;D you prove to me how blinkered you are. its real entertaining thank you! the amount of professional (did you like my underline? ;)) people i have spoke to about this is overwhelming. besides the aa and bt are taking their vivaros off fleet early due to the amount of problems they've had. but then you don't care cause your blinkers are on!! ;) ;D ;D
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i have a vauxhall movano ( same as the renualt master) and although its not much more than 4 years old i am going to right it off. the high pressure fuel pump has disintergrated which has knackerd the jets etc etc, and the bill for this will be around £2000 and im just not going throw any more money at this rubbish.
back to transits for me, i will never touch a renualt or vauxhall van ever again :'(
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I heard the AA get a mega good deal on them vans that being the main reason they go for them,i have a mate that loves em and only keeps them for 2 years max and then gets anew 1 the only time he`ll hold on a few months is if there bringing out a new 1.He admits the gearboxes are dodgy on them but as he says for the time he keeps them it aint worth worrying about as he`s chooped it in well before any problems start.As for Squeaky wait until you hit the 38-40k mark before you make your mind up.
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They don’t look nice, and I’m sure they look worse to there owners when they go wrong.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i disagree, hence why they are so popular cause it ain't the reliability ;D ;D
No they are ugly, there popular because they are mass produce for fleet and very cheap, should be reliable for the first few years then large organisation change there fleet, they were never made to last, just to serve a financial business purpose.
Look at the cost of a second hand one cheap, ugly & unreliable.
;D ;D ;D ;D
ok there ugly ::)
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Look at the cost of a second hand one cheap, ugly & unreliable.
I have to disagree, I don't think Mrs Ewan is that unreliable.
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Cheap? Yeah right.
Mine's worth a mint. ;)
When I change it in 2010 it'll have 15-18k miles and A1 condition.
Worth more than I'll owe on it.
On to the next van... ;)
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Squeaks...they do have a bad reputation already though... gearboxes and the like.... you cant deny that....
im happy that you have a good one tho ;)
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I have no experience of the trafic/vivaro/primastar but what I will say is our Expert HDI has 152K miles on the clock and still looks the biz, the transporter is a 174bhp model with about 40k miles on it, never had a problem with either although the VW is obviously a better van.
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Cheap? Yeah right.
Mine's worth a mint. ;)
When I change it in 2010 it'll have 15-18k miles and A1 condition.
Worth more than I'll owe on it.
On to the next van... ;)
its not really a good comparison is it? to only have a van for the first 20,000 miles of its life and then start spouting on about its reliability being fine!! ::)
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Look at the cost of a second hand one cheap, ugly & unreliable.
I have to disagree, I don't think Mrs Ewan is that unreliable.
Loser :-*
;D
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Cheap? Yeah right.
Mine's worth a mint. ;)
When I change it in 2010 it'll have 15-18k miles and A1 condition.
Worth more than I'll owe on it.
On to the next van... ;)
its not really a good comparison is it? to only have a van for the first 20,000 miles of its life and then start spouting on about its reliability being fine!! ::)
Well I don't know anyone with an old one that's had any problems either. ???
Fiats, Citreons, Peugeots and Transits?
That's a different story...
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Cheap? Yeah right.
Mine's worth a mint. ;)
When I change it in 2010 it'll have 15-18k miles and A1 condition.
Worth more than I'll owe on it.
On to the next van... ;)
its not really a good comparison is it? to only have a van for the first 20,000 miles of its life and then start spouting on about its reliability being fine!! ::)
Well I don't know anyone with an old one that's had any problems either. ???
what did i say about blinkered? ;D ;D ;D
try reading this thread there is about 4 or 5 of us for a start ::)
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Don't know.
Depends what's around, and doesn't put the payments up.
I love the Trafic, but I won't get another one, as I want a new one, not just a replacement exactly the same!
But then there may be a new model even nicer, who knows...
Otherwise, I wouldn't touch anything other than Vito, Transit and a few others.
The rest look boring or cheapo.
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well its in the body shop tomorrow for a look as to what's to be done maybe it might look
like it did in the picture again lol
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just got back and they are doing it between Xmas and the new year so no time lost
trying to get another van sorted as we don't start back until the 2nd jan
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I have the Primastar, and so far it has given mostly trouble free motoring, getting up for 40,000 miles now.
You have to bear in mind that there are ten's of thousands of these vans on the road, do you really think that every one is going to have doors falling off or gearboxes failing? Or even a majority of them?
Of course not, most are going to provide mostly trouble free motoring, not all with suffer gearbox failure after 40,000 miles.
Vans traditionally have a hard life, no matter the make or model you have, they will all have problems at some point, some, even though you may lavish no end of loving, gentle care on them will cost you thousands.
You love Trannie's? Great, but I think they look crap! You hate the look of the traffic/vivaro/primastar? Great, but I think they look great ;D
When I get a van in todays world I don't want just a simple workhorse, I expect an awful lot more, I expect it to drive like a car, I expect it to have a decent sound system, a comfortable cab, huge service intervals, I don't want a box on wheels and I also expect it to be able to deal with the demands my particular job puts on it.
To get all this takes lots of fancy engineering and with all of this fancy engineering comes an awful lot more things that might go wrong.
20 years ago, if I had a problem or a breakdown in my car or van I'd strip it down and rebuild it myself! Nowadays you need a degree in engineering to remove a hubcap!!
No matter the van you get, you may well get a load of expensive problems...you pays your money....
Ian
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The thing is Ian these rumours don`t just get started about a van,i know lots of people that have had trouble with them so i know it`s true you might be 1 of the lucky 1`s,we will find out soon enough though as your mileage suggests.
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I remember reading reliability surveys of cars and Vauxhall always came out near the bottom.
The best were always Honda, Toyota and Mazda.
I prefer my van to be relatively simple to minimize the risk of faults. As long as it drives ok, has a CD player and carrys what I need for work and isn't pink I am happy.
(I have Citroen Dispatch 2.0hdi nearly 3 years old, 27k, no probs so far)
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fiat doblo great van never get done for speeding in one of these babys and its been reliable
pugnot partner diferent kettle of fish absolute crap pile of sh;; even the first min i got that one
went outside and lo and behold no electrics never buy any thing french again forza italia
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Like I said, the AA wouldn't want an unreliable van.
They have to be reliable. ;)
What do they mostly use?
Case closed.
Just jealousy.
I'm right.
Bye. :-*
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Clutch just gone on mine, its on 83,000 miles, 52 reg and i took something like this into account thats why i got it £800 cheaper then it was priced up, its booked in for monday and ill pick up Tuesday then back to work on the 5th Jan.
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Clutch just gone on mine, its on 83,000 miles, 52 reg and i took something like this into account thats why i got it £800 cheaper then it was priced up, its booked in for monday and ill pick up Tuesday then back to work on the 5th Jan.
oh another problem. thats a surprise. i never see that one coming!! ;D ;D
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Clutch just gone on mine, its on 83,000 miles, 52 reg and i took something like this into account thats why i got it £800 cheaper then it was priced up, its booked in for monday and ill pick up Tuesday then back to work on the 5th Jan.
oh another problem. thats a surprise. i never see that one coming!! ;D ;D
Nearly every van of every make will have had a new gearbox by 80,000 when used by tradesmen, so that's another rubbish attempt at stereotyping. ::)
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Like I said, the AA wouldn't want an unreliable van.
They have to be reliable. ;)
What do they mostly use?
Case closed.
Just jealousy.
I'm right.
Bye. :-*
Squeaky they don`t keep em long enough mate,they ditch it in a couple of years as you know i like the look of them but compared to a new transit the choice is simple.Give your view when you get a few more miles on the clock,I know someone that`s done 80k and had to have a new steering rack,alternator,previous to the rack track rod arms,a new gearbox a new clutch the list goes on but you know what i`m saying.Do you know anyone that has had 1 for 80k and has only had to spend money on servicing and consumables if you do let me know.
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I new about the problems the trafic has before i bought it and i wouldnt change it, transits and transporters etc have there probs too, as i spoke too AA bloke and he told me all of them think 1 was the turbo on the vw thats why you see a lot of pics of rac vans broken down with aa vans sorting them as aa had the warranty or something like that,
Chris
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Clutch just gone on mine, its on 83,000 miles, 52 reg and i took something like this into account thats why i got it £800 cheaper then it was priced up, its booked in for monday and ill pick up Tuesday then back to work on the 5th Jan.
oh another problem. thats a surprise. i never see that one coming!! ;D ;D
Nearly every van of every make will have had a new gearbox by 80,000 when used by tradesmen, so that's another rubbish attempt at stereotyping. ::)
my transits never ;) but you don't wanna hear that right? ;)
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A lot depends on how you drive it or thrash it as most do.
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It’s not debatable they have a reputation for being unreliable at a certain point, so where does the reputation come from, could it be the vans go wrong.
What’s unusual it seem to be built in like oil change after so many miles, change battery after three years change tyres after 20k miles change major components after so many miles!
Problem is owners don’t normally expect to change certain things, but it is a real possibility with these vans.
It’s why I never got one, could turn out more expensive, but if you get a good one you could have saved yourself a few grand if you brought used. Still got the worry though.
What did you get?
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My lesson learnt and wont be riding the clutch anymore especially with a full tank as this couldnt of helped.
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Clutch just gone on mine, its on 83,000 miles, 52 reg and i took something like this into account thats why i got it £800 cheaper then it was priced up, its booked in for monday and ill pick up Tuesday then back to work on the 5th Jan.
oh another problem. thats a surprise. i never see that one coming!! ;D ;D
Nearly every van of every make will have had a new gearbox by 80,000 when used by tradesmen, so that's another rubbish attempt at stereotyping. ::)
my transits never ;) but you don't wanna hear that right? ;)
More like you don't want to believe it, just because your Transit's been ok. ::)
I'd choose a Trafic over a Transit 100 times out of 100.
A lot of others would too.
Most popular van on the road now.
Millions can't be wrong, sorry. ;)
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It’s not debatable they have a reputation for being unreliable at a certain point, so where does the reputation come from, could it be the vans go wrong.
What’s unusual it seem to be built in like oil change after so many miles, change battery after three years change tyres after 20k miles change major components after so many miles!
Problem is owners don’t normally expect to change certain things, but it is a real possibility with these vans.
It’s why I never got one, could turn out more expensive, but if you get a good one you could have saved yourself a few grand if you brought used. Still got the worry though.
What did you get?
Ewan??
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Clutch just gone on mine, its on 83,000 miles, 52 reg and i took something like this into account thats why i got it £800 cheaper then it was priced up, its booked in for monday and ill pick up Tuesday then back to work on the 5th Jan.
oh another problem. thats a surprise. i never see that one coming!! ;D ;D
Nearly every van of every make will have had a new gearbox by 80,000 when used by tradesmen, so that's another rubbish attempt at stereotyping. ::)
my transits never ;) but you don't wanna hear that right? ;)
More like you don't want to believe it, just because your Transit's been ok. ::)
I'd choose a Trafic over a Transit 100 times out of 100.
A lot of others would too.
Most popular van on the road now.
Millions can't be wrong, sorry. ;)
you'd argue that black is white! ;D it is entertaining though thank you. ;)
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Clutch just gone on mine, its on 83,000 miles, 52 reg and i took something like this into account thats why i got it £800 cheaper then it was priced up, its booked in for monday and ill pick up Tuesday then back to work on the 5th Jan.
oh another problem. thats a surprise. i never see that one coming!! ;D ;D
Nearly every van of every make will have had a new gearbox by 80,000 when used by tradesmen, so that's another rubbish attempt at stereotyping. ::)
my transits never ;) but you don't wanna hear that right? ;)
More like you don't want to believe it, just because your Transit's been ok. ::)
I'd choose a Trafic over a Transit 100 times out of 100.
A lot of others would too.
Most popular van on the road now.
Millions can't be wrong, sorry. ;)
you'd argue that black is white! ;D it is entertaining though thank you. ;)
Not at all, I just know I'm right.
I could say the same about you.
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ask honest John squeaks about viavro/trafic/primstar that man never lies because honest is his name ;D ;D