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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: YWCS on December 12, 2008, 03:55:29 pm

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Post by: YWCS on December 12, 2008, 03:55:29 pm
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Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: clean on December 12, 2008, 03:57:00 pm
How can you sell them?
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: clean on December 12, 2008, 03:58:58 pm
You can`t sell something you have`nt even done
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: clean on December 12, 2008, 03:59:42 pm
That`s daylight robbery  :o
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: clean on December 12, 2008, 04:01:52 pm
I don`t agree,so we`ll have to agree to disagree on this one  :-\
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: elite mike on December 12, 2008, 04:02:32 pm
That`s daylight robbery  :o

i reckon its damn brilliant ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: clean on December 12, 2008, 04:04:42 pm
wanna fight pole king ;D

So you are a trouble maker as well then  ::)
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: clean on December 12, 2008, 04:11:18 pm
as well as what? a balentine-esque entrepreneur? :P

What on earth is that ?
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: clean on December 12, 2008, 04:14:14 pm
Do you not watch dragons den?

Yes i do,now here`s where i put you right it`s "Bannatyne"  ;D
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: RSWindows on December 12, 2008, 04:16:37 pm
i can see the funny side! and the business side but also the ethical side
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: Chris Galloway on December 12, 2008, 04:30:17 pm
Sorry but window cleaners sell work on to others all the time.

theres always threads on here asking to sell or buy work  ::)

you have just done this YWCS, whats the problem with this Pole King ?

Fairs do's YWCS has never done them before, but why does that matter?  ???

good for you YWCS..  ;)
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: clean on December 12, 2008, 04:37:13 pm
Sorry but window cleaners sell work on to others all the time.

theres always threads on here asking to sell or buy work  ::)

you have just done this YWCS, whats the problem with this Pole King ?

Fairs do's YWCS has never done them before, but why does that matter?  ???

good for you YWCS..  ;)

Yes they sell their work,but not work they hav`nt even done or seen,especially when it was only 10 minutes later,
my opinion on this is my opinion and yours is yours if it was me especially if he had no intentions of doing the work i would have told the other window cleaner about the houses give him the addresses and wished him a Merry Christmas  ;)
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: trike on December 12, 2008, 04:39:38 pm
 :-X
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: Paul Coleman on December 13, 2008, 03:39:37 pm
I was toying with the idea of canvassing the area, but I decided against it, cos he is a nice guy and I didn't want to go stepping on toes, so I don't see why I shouldn't get a little piece of the pie by selling him the ones I get asked about.

ps.
I have a granny for sale if anyone is interested. see below


You gonna put her on ebay?
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: Ian Lancaster on December 13, 2008, 06:21:49 pm
Are we in business or are we running benevolent societies?

The entire point of any commercial enterprise is to sell.  YWCS had something of value, in this case job leads.  He obtained them in the course of his business, so they were the result of his being a window cleaner and being perceived as such.  In other words they were the result of his having invested time and money to be in the situation where he was, and so people made business opportunities available to him.

Someone else saw the potential of what YWCS had, and was prepared to pay to acquire that potential.

That's business.

It's not a moral, or ethical issue.  If you recommend a tradesman to someone, it's not unusual for the tradesman to give you something of value for the recommendation, money or a free service (say one window clean) or a voucher to entitle you to money off goods or services.

Why is this any different?

Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 13, 2008, 06:28:42 pm
Are we in business or are we running benevolent societies?

The entire point of any commercial enterprise is to sell.  YWCS had something of value, in this case job leads.  He obtained them in the course of his business, so they were the result of his being a window cleaner and being perceived as such.  In other words they were the result of his having invested time and money to be in the situation where he was, and so people made business opportunities available to him.

Someone else saw the potential of what YWCS had, and was prepared to pay to acquire that potential.

That's business.

It's not a moral, or ethical issue.  If you recommend a tradesman to someone, it's not unusual for the tradesman to give you something of value for the recommendation, money or a free service (say one window clean) or a voucher to entitle you to money off goods or services.

Why is this any different?



Absolutely spot on Ian - don't lose any sleep YWCS you've done the guy proud - 4 new custies that he might not have otherwise got. No moral or ethical issues whatsoever - if Pole King thinks this is a moral or ethical issue rather than a personal business choice issue then I despair...

Oh let me correct myself - on re-reading the original post I notice YWCS isn't telling the tax man - there is a moral/ethical issue there of course! :)

P.S. And I've found a moral/ethical issue for Pole King - he expects a free gift of new customer leads to be handed over - that'll do for morally/ethically wrong!
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: seandyer2003 on December 13, 2008, 06:31:01 pm
hahaha, this is what its about, ... it think theres only one way to settle the issue between pole king and YWCS, (in harry hill voice).....   FIIIIIIIGHT   :)
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: tomy jackson on December 13, 2008, 07:43:59 pm
i find water ptal fite at dorn is good , ther nowt wrong with selling them , you must remember iv had a fue but the cowerds never show up
Title: Re: new jobs
Post by: Paul Coleman on December 13, 2008, 10:43:33 pm
Are we in business or are we running benevolent societies?

The entire point of any commercial enterprise is to sell.  YWCS had something of value, in this case job leads.  He obtained them in the course of his business, so they were the result of his being a window cleaner and being perceived as such.  In other words they were the result of his having invested time and money to be in the situation where he was, and so people made business opportunities available to him.

Someone else saw the potential of what YWCS had, and was prepared to pay to acquire that potential.

That's business.

It's not a moral, or ethical issue.  If you recommend a tradesman to someone, it's not unusual for the tradesman to give you something of value for the recommendation, money or a free service (say one window clean) or a voucher to entitle you to money off goods or services.

Why is this any different?



Totally agree Ian.  I'm not sure why anyone has a problem with it either.