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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ricky M on December 09, 2008, 10:05:31 pm

Title: Suede ?
Post by: Ricky M on December 09, 2008, 10:05:31 pm
Am I right in saying that it can only be DRY cleaned ?
or can it be misted then white terry towels be used .
Ive been asked to look at one tomor by a regular , Ive told her that ive not cleaned suede yet and have no training working suede but she insists after ive cleaned the carpets to have a look and maybe try but Im unsure .
She is unsure if it is really suede !

Ricky
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Ricky M on December 09, 2008, 10:35:13 pm
Come on folks give a little advise pls

Ricky
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: robert stubbs on December 09, 2008, 10:47:14 pm
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=46511.0
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Ricky M on December 09, 2008, 11:12:11 pm
Robert , Thanks

Ricky
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Roger Koh on December 09, 2008, 11:17:06 pm
Show us a picture, we can go from there!

Roger Koh
Leather Doctor® System
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Ricky M on December 09, 2008, 11:26:53 pm
Rodger , Ive been meaning to get in touch with you about buying some products but just been so busy with the mad xmas rush .

post your e-mail pls , Thanks

Ricky
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Ricky M on December 09, 2008, 11:27:36 pm
Or e-mail me ability1@btinternet.com

Ricky
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Roger Koh on December 09, 2008, 11:53:44 pm
info@leatherdoctor.org
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: LTT Leathercare on December 10, 2008, 07:20:25 am
The key is to check if it is real suede or nubuck first.  A microscope will tell you immediately. Suede is extremely rare on furniture nubuck a little more common but still fairly rare.
If it is genuine suede we would not recommend a 'wet' clean as there are problems associated with it but you can very successfully 'dry' clean using nubuck cloths and napping brushes.
Let us know if you require further help whn you have identified what it is.
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Ricky M on December 10, 2008, 07:27:33 am
Yes , ive been on your site looking for a No . . looking to book up for a course next year and maybe some products .
your in Harrowgate I believe .

ability1@btinternet.com , could you e-mail me your No. pls
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: clinton on December 10, 2008, 07:30:13 am
Ricky

Just cleaned a faux suade in cream suite a few weeks ago just did the h w e system i usually get about 5 a year Just find out what is the real fabric before you go ahead :)
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: clinton on December 10, 2008, 07:33:37 am
Was going to say might be a good idea to do a course with one of these guys who specialise in the cleaning of fabrics like this :)
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Ricky M on December 10, 2008, 08:14:39 am
Clinton , on spending til the wee hours of this morning researching suede , nubuck etc and looking at the cost of these kind of naturals , I now know its NOT suede ( if it is I will show my bum in Lewis window on boxing day ) .

For what they paid , there location and the line of work he is in I just cant see it being the real deal, however i will be sorting the LTT course for early next year .

Ricky 
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Doug Holloway on December 10, 2008, 08:23:40 am
Hi Guys

A microscope is invaluable for those who are not sure of the difference.

Real Suede is random, Faux suede has uniform construction, you can see the threads !

It is very important because faux Suede is relatively easy to clean with HWE and real suede should not be cleaned with water.

Cheers

doug
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: derek west on December 10, 2008, 04:36:03 pm
unzip a cushion, and look on the reverse of the so called suede, if its material then its faux suede, or fake suede, they come up a treat, M/S with a terry towel then extarct with water or an acid rinse.
if its the same inside the cushion as outside, then get some training and leave well alone.
derek
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: gwrightson on December 10, 2008, 04:48:33 pm
one other point .

dont use hot water.

geoff
Title: Re: Wet-Clean Suede ?
Post by: Roger Koh on December 10, 2008, 08:07:28 pm
These pictures show how velvet suede (nubuck) was “wet cleaned” without attending a class; they just follow instruction (print out - spotted them?) through a forum.

System products use for this job was: d’Oil4.4™, d’Grease4.9™, clean3.8™, rinse3.0™, relaxer3.3™, fatliquor5.0™ and leatherScent’S™.

The number behind the name of the products denotes their pH value.

These are leather-safe products, their pH value between 3 and 5.

So all suede, be it genuine-suede, faux-suede, split-suede, velvet-suede or shearling-suede can be safely “wet clean”. 

You can do it too!

#1: A grease and oil stained velvet-suede (nubuck) armrest.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/1before.jpg)


#2: Highlighting the oil and grease stain.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/2beforegreasedarea.jpg)


#3: Comparing with the unused area.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/3beforeunusedarea.jpg)


#4: After dry soil removal with nubuckEraser5™.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/4during-nubuckEraser5-drysoilremova.jpg)


#5: d’Oil4.4™ application to emulsify the oil and grease.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/5during-dOil44application.jpg)


#6: Agitation and dwelling for complete deflocculation to occur.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/6during-dOil44agitationdwell.jpg)


#7: d’Grease4.9™ application to beyond the heavily stain area.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/7during-dOil44application2.jpg)


#8: clean3.8™, rinse3.0™ application.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/8during-clean38-application.jpg)


#9: Gentle hand scudding to squeeze out the oil and grease from within the leather structure.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/9during-rinse30-scudding.jpg)


#10: Extraction.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/10during-scudextraction.jpg)


#11: After relaxer3.3™ and fatliquor5.0™ residues are erase by nubuckEraser5™ and nubuckBrush2™.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/11during-relaxer33fatliquor50brush2.jpg)


#12: Finish. 
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/12after.jpg)

For more details email me!

Roger Koh
info@leatherdoctor.org
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Ricky M on December 10, 2008, 10:44:07 pm
Went to take a look at the so called suede suite .......erm what can i say

another CC told them he cudn do as it was suede ! so they most of took it as gospel
Needed no microscope or rub test to see it was not suede but What a mess , will doing on sunday , forgot camera but will take on day , its one of those seeing is believing types.

I give a silly price and told her not expect much , she said yes  :o

will post pics B4 an After

Thanks for all the useful info Guys

Ricky
Title: Re: Suede or Alcantara®?
Post by: Roger Koh on December 11, 2008, 01:35:38 am
And if you are sport enough, you can even do all your leather works with your sport car!

Cos’ no machine, every tool or product in your “James Bond” briefcase or suitcase!

Products comes in concentrate so what you need to carry in bulk (gal) is distilled water.

Most of these so called faux suede are actually originally the Alcantara®.

I clean and condition them the same way as suede, just skip the relaxer3.3™ and the fatliquor5.0™.

And if the leatherScent’S™ is just what they like a non-stick silky feel with the unforgettable classic leather scent, they will be trilled with your service!

Roger Koh
Leather Doctor® System
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: carlton care on December 11, 2008, 08:55:00 am
Good point from Roger on adding to the illusion, by providing a leather scent which I reckon would go down well with the client
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: Jim_77 on December 12, 2008, 01:07:23 am
But is complete cow poo
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: carlton care on December 12, 2008, 01:56:10 pm
Jim

All the UK suppliers have similar products and the leather scent is is just another little touch for those who want to stand out from the crowd.

Pretentious ?

Maybe, but they bought an artificial product made to look like leather, so they will probably  like the added "real leather smell".
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: john steel on December 12, 2008, 06:18:43 pm
Carlton, the leather smell is not of leather, but of the chemicals used in the tanning process ;)
Leather does not have a distinctive smell on its own.
Title: Re: Suede ?
Post by: carlton care on December 12, 2008, 07:27:42 pm
Kind of you to point that out John, but living in Bridge of Weir I've been privy to that information for many years.

robert m
Title: Re: The universal classic leather scent
Post by: Roger Koh on December 13, 2008, 12:02:29 am
Leather smell may be subjective ranges from “cow poo” as has suggested to any familiar localized smell of leather that could be objectionable and getting rid of it is more desirable.

This unforgettable classic leather scent I talk about is the “universal leather scent” recognizable where high-end luxurious leather goods flourishes.

This leather scent I talk about is certainly more leathery than the leather itself, when spray on faux leather or suede will certainly fool the unwary mistaken it for genuine leather or suede.

It impart a sensuous olfactory charm that makes client smile with satisfaction and authentically recognizable as a professional leather service provider without a doubt.

Roger Koh
Leather Doctor® System