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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: geefree on November 30, 2008, 11:08:34 pm

Title: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on November 30, 2008, 11:08:34 pm
If i tried to build my own website.. what are the first steps to take?

can anyone simplify it for me please. in an easy to understand order?

E.g

1/ find a host

2/ blah blah

3/ blah blah blah

4/ blah blah blah blah


Thank you .

Gary.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: pjulk on November 30, 2008, 11:23:09 pm
Get a domain name i use www.uk-cheapest.co.uk/ (http://www.uk-cheapest.co.uk/)
£2.97 per year.
And i use www.dream-hosting.co.uk (http://www.dream-hosting.co.uk) for my sites and its £9.99 a year and you can host 5 sites on this.

They have a free web builder to use i have not used it so can't say what it's like.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on November 30, 2008, 11:26:23 pm
Thanks Paul,

Thats a cracking bit of advice, i will have a play around with those.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: seandyer2003 on December 01, 2008, 07:37:15 am
Get a domain name i use www.uk-cheapest.co.uk/ (http://www.uk-cheapest.co.uk/)
£2.97 per year.
And i use www.dream-hosting.co.uk (http://www.dream-hosting.co.uk) for my sites and its £9.99 a year and you can host 5 sites on this.

They have a free web builder to use i have not used it so can't say what it's like.

that 5 sites one for 9.99 i will have to check out as i am paying about £40 each for my 2, and im sure it does loads of really amazing stuff for that , but to be honest i dont know what, or how to use it anyway, my sites are online and thats all i want, will check it at renewal time next year :)
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on December 01, 2008, 11:17:30 am
It costs a little more, but I'd always recommend www.letshost.ie as their package is fully loaded. You can control every aspect of your domain, and will never ever run out of bandwidth. You can run up to 25 websites from 1 hosting package too.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 01, 2008, 08:22:41 pm
Thanks for all the help... i have just copied this below....... from dream hosting.....


We guarantee network uptime to be 99.9% or better. This guarantee allows for approximately 45 minutes per month and 8 hours per year of network downtime. Dream-Hosting.co.uk's cumulative network uptime since the opening of the new Lansing datacenter is 100.00%.

what does this mean....




anyway... so i will find a host...

then a domain name.... do i then have a website? ???

Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on December 01, 2008, 09:44:06 pm
What operating system, perl version & cgi scripts does dream hosting offer?

Might sound like rubbish now,.. but it can make a big difference in the end,...

Letshost.ie    worth the couple of extra quid!
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: pjulk on December 01, 2008, 11:43:27 pm
They have all the upto date stuff on there servers they all ways seem to update.

Here is the details you want.

Apache version   2.2.9 (Unix)
PHP version   5.2.6
MySQL version   5.0.67-community-
log
Architecture   x86_64
Operating system   Linux

I have been with them for 4 years and i had websites before i went with them and this is the best host i have been with.


These are the CGI scripts that are installed

    Simple CGI Wrapper
This is a CGI Wrapper that will allow you to run CGI Scripts with your User ID.

   Random HTML Generator
This is a Random HTML generator. It picks a string of HTML code from a list and inserts it in an SSI (Server Side Includes) enabled web page.

   Simple GuestBook
A just a simple guestbook for your visitors to view and sign.

   Advanced GuestBook
This is a more advanced guestbook written in PHP and MySQL.

   Counter
You can create a counter to count and show how many visitors have been to your site.

   Clock
This utility will create a real time java clock for your site.

   Countdown
You can create a countdown box to countdown to a specified date.

   CGI email
CGI Email takes the input of an HTML form and converts it to an email format defined by the author of the form.

   FormMail Clone
FormMail-clone is a clone of Matt Wright's FormMail.

   Entropy Search
Setup Search Engine
Rebuild Search Index

   Entropy Banners
This feature allows you to create rotating banner ads for your site.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: pjulk on December 01, 2008, 11:53:13 pm
Gazzasp8 said
Quote
We guarantee network uptime to be 99.9% or better. This guarantee allows for approximately 45 minutes per month and 8 hours per year of network downtime. Dream-Hosting.co.uk's cumulative network uptime since the opening of the new Lansing datacenter is 100.00%.

Its just to cover themselves incase the place where the server gets a powercutor something.
Or they need to shut the server down for upgrade or whatever.
This is normal for all hosting companies to put this up.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 01, 2008, 11:58:00 pm
Thanks for all the technical info  ;)

i have just been looking through the site again... dream etc

so, a silver package would give me webspace £9.99 per year.

then i go to the cheaper domain website to register for £2.97

Then i go back to DREAM HOST. and register my name on my hosting space.....

Then i go to a free template site for all my web pages.????

is that me up and running then?

 :D
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: pjulk on December 02, 2008, 01:15:21 am
Thats more or less it.

Once you have your domain name.
when you register with the hosting company they will ask for the website name then tell you to point the name at there server.
They will give you two DNS address's.
You then go back to the people you bought the website name from and log in.
There will be a part in there for DNS just click that put the two address's in the hosting company gave you and click ok.

It will take anything from 1 hour upto 24 hours for you site to first show.

but you can still build your site and upload it whilst you waiting.
You can get a free website template and edit that in an editor there's plenty of free one's about or use the hosting companies website builder.

Paul
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: s.w.c on December 02, 2008, 05:14:26 pm
mine i did myself with no experience cost me under £10, its nothing special but its a start
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: Pristine Clean on December 02, 2008, 05:32:34 pm
It costs a little more, but I'd always recommend www.letshost.ie as their package is fully loaded. You can control every aspect of your domain, and will never ever run out of bandwidth. You can run up to 25 websites from 1 hosting package too.


This is ok but www.letshost.ie are not even in the UK. Is that important you may ask? Well yes. We are in the UK and our seach engine is either ending in .co.uk

If you were in America you would not seach on Google.co.uk it would be Google.com. If you look at Google its has 2 radio buttons. The web and UK Sites. Most people select UK sites. So if your hosted on IE then it wont return all that well in the ranking. I know I was once a web designer and SEO exec.

So get your domain from 1 company. Its easier to maintain.

Plus helps again with ranking.. aas if you have to alter Dns to point to where the site is hosted.

Dave

Dave
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on December 02, 2008, 05:36:30 pm
Just because the service is in a .ie domain doesn't mean they only sell .ie!! I've plenty of .com & .co.uk domains from them that rank very well!!!
They do offer a fully loaded hosting package too,. so definitely get both your domain and hosting from the 1 company!
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 02, 2008, 05:42:52 pm
THis is why i got confused last time.  ;) and give up...

i suppose its each to their own....

i just wanted a start.,

thanks again i will delv again into all these suggestions. :)
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: s.w.c on December 02, 2008, 06:05:38 pm
gaz mine was done through office live for nothing and i got the domain for three years from starnet, take a look at my site simple but easy and i have no knowledge of building a web site
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 02, 2008, 08:12:28 pm
Thanks.... i will get going...its taking the right steps thats  hard ;D


i have searched for starnet free domain name, but cant find them anywhere.  ???
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: Chris B on December 02, 2008, 08:51:53 pm
Think he means starternet ;)
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 02, 2008, 08:57:40 pm
Thanks ... but thats american lol. ;)

www.starternet.co.uk/ (http://www.starternet.co.uk/)

even though its co. uk

help lines american, and dollars...

and no,.... co.uk domain names.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 02, 2008, 09:21:47 pm
Right... i have took my first step..... i have a domain name ... yippee

cheapest.co.uk

says will take 24 hours to register...

can i look for ahost still?...

im getting into this. :D
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: s.w.c on December 02, 2008, 09:35:46 pm
i used small office live then ported it accross  www.officelive.com
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 02, 2008, 09:57:05 pm
Thats more or less it.

Once you have your domain name.
when you register with the hosting company they will ask for the website name then tell you to point the name at there server.
They will give you two DNS address's.
You then go back to the people you bought the website name from and log in.
There will be a part in there for DNS just click that put the two address's in the hosting company gave you and click ok.

It will take anything from 1 hour upto 24 hours for you site to first show.

but you can still build your site and upload it whilst you waiting.
You can get a free website template and edit that in an editor there's plenty of free one's about or use the hosting companies website builder.

Paul

Hi Paul,

i have registered with the two that you recommended... but the hosting company have taken my payment... and i can access my website space.... and its live... but they have not asked me to direct my domain name to them or anything.

cheers.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 02, 2008, 10:06:58 pm
now i have my host email..... its sayin...


Alternatively your domain name must point at the following nameservers to work on this hosting account:

ns1.enixns.com (.................)

and there are 4 of them... but not links i can click on....

how do i point my domain name to a host please.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: Art on December 06, 2008, 07:43:16 pm
Thanks ... but thats american lol. ;)

www.starternet.co.uk/ (http://www.starternet.co.uk/)

even though its co. uk

help lines american, and dollars...

and no,.... co.uk domain names.


Gaz if you click on the link at the bottom of my post that's the starternet. I've got a site with them and i've had no problems and it's very user friendly
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: Chris B on December 06, 2008, 07:49:25 pm
And yes...they do .co.uk's ;D
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: matt on December 06, 2008, 08:12:35 pm
Gazza

when you type in your domain name

i/e

ww.gazzaswindowcleaning.co.uk

what comes up, a holding page from ? ? ? ? DH or who you brought the domain name from
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 06, 2008, 08:37:56 pm
Hi Matt

Its a holding page... but i have a contact site for the the domain area too ..
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 06, 2008, 11:20:00 pm
why do you ask ?.... i have not done anything on it until you reply lol  :D
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: matt on December 06, 2008, 11:25:50 pm
i just wondered if the nameservers are pointing to the right place

Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 07, 2008, 01:57:15 pm
so will i lose people who are searching for window cleaners.. if my domain name is  www.@@@@cleaningservices...

or will they find it with my window cleaning content on the website,

does anyone know.

thank you.
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 07, 2008, 05:12:26 pm
Anyone...  ;)
Title: Re: Websites.... can i ask you again please.?
Post by: geefree on December 07, 2008, 06:35:48 pm
It seems i may be asking too much.... i dont like any of the web builder , so now i am looking for free window cleaning templates...this is much harder than i thought.  ??? ::)