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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richy27 on November 30, 2008, 08:43:19 pm

Title: advise first pub job
Post by: richy27 on November 30, 2008, 08:43:19 pm
doin my first pub job next week just doin the dining room with the possibility of doin the whole place later on in the year. Its a fairly new carpet small pattern. its been wet cleaned before. I personally have been sticking to micro splitters one step finline etc as have only just started. i was thinking about using prochem traffic clean as pre spray and extracting with either extractor pro or fabric fibre rinse. I have done my colour tests and burn tests that i learnt on my ncca course. Been getting good results with the one step but i am thinking something a little more commercial is required. Sorry to sound a little green but we all start some where any good chemical tips .

REGARDS

Rich
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: russell james on November 30, 2008, 08:48:32 pm
what carpet is it, is it wilton?
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: richy27 on November 30, 2008, 08:50:25 pm
there is no pattern on the backing
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: John Gregory on November 30, 2008, 09:04:46 pm
there is no pattern on the backing

so that means it's not a belgium Wilton, is the face fibre wool ?

John
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: richy27 on November 30, 2008, 09:27:41 pm
yes its a wool
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: clinton on November 30, 2008, 09:52:22 pm
Is it well fitted ???
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: russell james on November 30, 2008, 09:53:47 pm
id use pre-spray gold and fibre and fabric rinse, should come up nice.
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Post by: Joe H on November 30, 2008, 10:05:43 pm
Unless its really bad I would think One Step Fineline would be ok.

What is it like?
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: markpowell on November 30, 2008, 10:14:48 pm
Powerburst with acid rinse, maybe greasy soil been a dining area always use these 2 on every pub, restaurant job and always get fantastic results.
Mark
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 30, 2008, 10:21:55 pm
If it's sticky I would do as Mark says, the heavy duty stuff will break soils down far better providing you put it down hot and allow good dwell, if you aggitate then you'll find the rinse far easier and also the drying quicker.

Add a bit of deodoriser to get that nice smell and not the fusty beer smell and they'll know you've clean it and take turbo driers to speed dry and you'll be looked at like a king.

Shaun
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: russell james on November 30, 2008, 10:22:27 pm
never used power burst, is it any good, powder isnt it, what ph is it,
cheers.
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 30, 2008, 10:29:19 pm
ph11 so it's a naughty boy!!

Shaun
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: russell james on November 30, 2008, 10:29:53 pm
very high, good acid rinse with that then
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Post by: markpowell on November 30, 2008, 10:34:12 pm
Yes its a powder PH11 as shaun says. although it isnt woolsafe approved it does state on the labe "If using on wool rinse with B109, Fabric and fibre rinse.
Mark
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 30, 2008, 10:45:22 pm
I think you may be surprised on how much the soiling of the carpet will bring the ph on the cleaning product towards neutral especially in pubs.

I once had a play about with the old ph paper on a contract in a pub I used to do and found that after applying a simular product (Stapro heavy duty degreaser) I think it was about ph12, the carpet was still acidic after a plain water rinse.

Shaun
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: richy27 on November 30, 2008, 10:55:01 pm
yes clinton its pretty well fitted its typical dining room carpet few greasy spots and stains general traffic areas

thanks for all tips guys
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: JandS on December 01, 2008, 12:02:38 am
Hit it with Trafficlean and a good agitate then extract with Double Clean does the business
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: markpowell on December 01, 2008, 03:04:27 pm
If its wool i would avoid Double clean unless your doing a salvage clean.
Powerburst will do all the hard work and an acid rinse will be suffice, plus you wont end up with any rapid re-soiling complaints from the customer.
Mark
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: clinton on December 01, 2008, 03:57:46 pm
Have you also got a l m system at your disposal ???

Just would be good to run over the carpet even after you have h w e the carpet areas :)
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Post by: JandS on December 01, 2008, 04:06:22 pm
Says Powerburst not suitable for wool or wool mix??

John
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Post by: Mike Halliday on December 01, 2008, 04:14:55 pm
Mark P why does double clean cause rapid re-soiling?

with bad carpets I tend to stay with the same chemicals just up the agitation and dwell time. I get the rotry with the STIFF brush and scrub it to death :D
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: markpowell on December 01, 2008, 05:37:16 pm
I have always been led to believe that high Ph rinsing products will lead to rapid re-soiling.
Mark
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: Joe H on December 01, 2008, 05:41:16 pm
Double Clean 9.8

Powerburst 11

I will probably use Double Clean on Wed in a pub in Warrington, a month ago I used Powerburst so Iwill start to drop it down a bit now.
Title: Re: advise first pub job
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on December 01, 2008, 06:19:31 pm
High ph has no relivance to rapid resoiling or pure clean ph 9 and hd micro splitters ph11 would leave everything sticky, it's in the design of the product, washing up liquid is neutral but like glue when put on carpets.

Shaun