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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Glen on November 29, 2008, 10:57:39 pm
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A couple of questions about the Omnivac:
Can it be transported by car or is a trailer / van required?
What do you do with the contents of the gutters?
Can anyone suggest how to market the service?
Thanks in advance.
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I have a question for Glen.
I may be interested in buying a 30ft or 36ft pole for gutter jobs from you. I have an Ionics upkeeper and am happy with it because it's compact and runs on diesel, but I'm not happy using the awkward 3inch tubing lengths. Would you be able to make a connection to fit the end of your pole that connects to the 3inch tubing of an Ionics guttervac. If you can, would you email me a price please
easycleanwayne@msn.com
as I have a ridiculous amount of gutter jobs lined up I've been putting on hold but really need to complete soon.
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A couple of questions about the Omnivac:
Can it be transported by car or is a trailer / van required?
What do you do with the contents of the gutters?
Can anyone suggest how to market the service?
Thanks in advance.
Car no too small to carry the vac, hoses, attachments, poles etc.. Van and trailer yes.
Disposal - ahh tricky.. obviously dump it.. but see here to why its tricky. http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=65846.new#new
Market it like you would any other service. Praise its benefits to the customers show what is so good about it, and what it brings to them.
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Car no too small to carry the vac, hoses, attachments, poles etc.. Van and trailer yes.
I actually meant a van or a trailer :o. Would a van or trailer not be big enough on their own? I was thinking of getting one or the other anyway to accomodate a water fed pole system.
Can anyone give me an indication of the approximate size of a van or box trailer to accomodate both (say a 650 litre tank and then the associated poles brushes and omnivac). If a van, it would need to have as small an engine as practicable as motor tax goes according to the CC in Ireland.
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We recently installed a complete window and gutter cleaning system into a small wheel base VW transporter which in carrying capacity is smaller than a SWB transit. Their are photos somewhere on here thsat we posted in the last week.
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Thanks Glyn H, could you forward a link to the post with photographs?
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(http://www.omni-guttervac.com/GutterVac%20full%20kit.jpg)
(http://www.omni-guttervac.com/GutterVac%20full%20kit%20rear%20door%20for%20web.jpg)
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Hi Wayne
I am sure we can make an adaptor for you to join our poles to your Upkeeper
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(http://www.omni-guttervac.com/GutterVac%20full%20kit.jpg)
(http://www.omni-guttervac.com/GutterVac%20full%20kit%20rear%20door%20for%20web.jpg)
I've seen this system on someone's website but cannnot remember which one. Does anyone know?
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It was supplied to a national drain cleaning company
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Hi Wayne
I am sure we can make an adaptor for you to join our poles to your Upkeeper
Glyn
any chance of a delivery date for the Omnivac 30ft pole I bought last week?
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Is that you Wayne?
If so we had to manufacture an attachement for you to be able to connect to your Upkeeper.
I believe it was sent out to you this morning.
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Is that you Wayne?
If so we had to manufacture an attachement for you to be able to connect to your Upkeeper.
I believe it was sent out to you this morning.
Hi Glyn, yes I'm back, it's me (Wayne), thank-you for doing the Upkeeper attachment, I look forward to using your gutter vac pole. Keith should have posted details of your new camera system in with my pole. If he hasn't, can I have details of your new cam coming out. Providing my tax bill aint too high, I should be able order the cam Jan with a bit of luck.
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I like the convenience of buying a ready-made system but I'm unsure if the premium is worth paying. I'm interested in the omnivac in its own right but I'm thinking about a comprehensive van mounted system consisting of hot wfp, gutter vacuum, generator, pressure washer etc. I really wouldn't know where to start sourcing the components.
Does anyone know of such a system? If so could you send me some photographs and information as to whether it's DIY or ready-made. Is there a definitive guide to building your own comprehensive system?
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Have a search around on this forum. As for building one - there is nothing to it, just a case of sticking a flexible hose into the vac one end and a tube the other, if you can Hoover the lounge carpet then you can build and operate a vac. The Omnivac might not work out that much dearer - it's when you compare generator prices and camera prices then you will find big savings. If you are unable to join hose to pole then buy the ready made package. There's not much choice of poles really - either Omnipoles own or Gardiners Superlight carbon sections - neither are cheap.
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I already have but there seems to be so much conflicting information. I suppose what I really need is a 'halfway house' between true DIY and a branded system i.e. a spec. for me to source the parts and then someone to fit it.
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Glyn (Omnipole) just letting you know the adaptor is a very tight fit but perfect size for Ionics upkeeper to your pole, thanks. Didn't get the info on the camera coming out so any chance you can email it or post it on :)
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The conflict comes from either Omnipoles number one fan or Glyn himself (obviously).
Chap called Kev has been very successful with the real deal making good money and is an obvious publicity model for Omnipole so anyone building their own tends to get crucified. Just have a good look and decide for yourself. If you are going all out for the big commercial jobs and think your going to be a big player then just buy the ready made version. The differences are pretty small at the end of the day, Omnipole have a straight inlet to "increase the vortex effect in the chamber" - more likely to stop twigs and pine needles from jamming i would suspect. ;D
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do people use powerpoles(omnipoles)
for use with the guttervac system??
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Have a look on their gutter cleaning site and you will see their original one used a pole with the hose attatched to the outside of the pole. The newer ones use the actual pole as a suction tube. Don't know if both poles are the same.
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The conflict comes from either Omnipoles number one fan or Glyn himself (obviously).
Chap called Kev has been very successful with the real deal making good money and is an obvious publicity model for Omnipole so anyone building their own tends to get crucified. Just have a good look and decide for yourself. If you are going all out for the big commercial jobs and think your going to be a big player then just buy the ready made version. The differences are pretty small at the end of the day, Omnipole have a straight inlet to "increase the vortex effect in the chamber" - more likely to stop twigs and pine needles from jamming i would suspect. ;D
Actually I do almost exclusively residential. I would like to offer additional services though - gutter cleaning, high level pressure washing etc but would be unsure, to say the least, on how to put it all together in a van.
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To reiterate
Our system uses 51mm hose- the new inlet to the vac is 60mm so to prevent blockages
Majority of DIY versions use a standard 38mm hose ( only slightly larger than a Henry which uses 32mm)
Our latest vac is 4000+ watts
DIY ones are 3600 watts
We use lightweight ultraflex hose
the DIY I have seen use standard black plastic hose
We have a range of accesories to meet any task readily available
We can supply a complete package including high pressure PowerPole to clean blockages in down pipes up to 13 metres high
We have supplied many hundred gutter cleaning systems and
our clients include the largest cleaning contractors in Europe the largest waste management companies in Europe and the largest Facility Management Companies in Europe.
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Like i said :) You can buy larger hose, you can buy more powerful vacs and you can buy bigger inlets they are all out there. If you aren't sure then by the ready made package it's that simple.
You don't need all that power for residential work though. (Omnipole were selling a smaller version - less than 3600W only a couple of weeks back just for residential).