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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: from edge2edge on November 25, 2008, 12:45:50 pm

Title: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: from edge2edge on November 25, 2008, 12:45:50 pm
Just wondering where is the best place to buy one of these and if it would need an extra hose to use with my powerflite extractor.Regards Alan (swindon)
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: Mike Halliday on November 25, 2008, 04:13:52 pm
eerrrr..... Hydramaster perhaps?
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: russell james on November 25, 2008, 04:20:41 pm
do you mean the hydramaster drimaster upholstery tool thingy, i have one, very good, i have it turned right down has it uses too much water anyway
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: gwrightson on November 25, 2008, 05:28:05 pm
Russel ,

You say it uses to much water, I asume you are saying that if you leave the valve open it uses to much water :-\ .
have you tried turning the valve off when you are not physicaly using the tool ?

Yes , the do tend to use more than a normal tool because of the constant flow, but used correctly they are a great tool. I suggest your theory of turning the water right down is not the answer.

the flow should be adjusted at the main valve on the line, and then fine tuned on the tool itself so you can see the flow running smoothly over the slot.

geoff

ps. Hydramaster very helpful , and will allow you a weeks trial before you purchase, well they used too ;)
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: russell james on November 25, 2008, 05:32:45 pm
yes i know how to adjust it, i have three adjustment points, the point i was making is that you could run on a hundred odd foot of hose and it will probably still supply plenty of water
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: gwrightson on November 25, 2008, 05:52:33 pm
sorry russel,
seems I misinterpreted your reply.

Geoff
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: russell james on November 25, 2008, 05:54:28 pm
thats ok, probably didnt make myself clear enough ;)
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: from edge2edge on November 25, 2008, 06:54:14 pm
Mike yes i had assumed Hydramster would sell them but are they the cheapest and do they provide the best service etc Regards Alan(swindon)
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: gwrightson on November 25, 2008, 06:59:26 pm
Alan,
give hydramaster a ring ,tell them you are interested they will send you one straight out to try,

now I would say that that is a good service.

Geoff
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: Mike Halliday on November 25, 2008, 07:07:18 pm
why not Try the 'new' Drimaster. heard good things about it, but pricey at £400+

mike
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: derek west on November 25, 2008, 07:35:44 pm
the drimaster does use lots of water, even if you turn it off the trucky dumps water when it gets hot so either way you can't win with it, best thing i find to do is pre spray and agitate as much as possible then turn the machine on and extract, then turn machine off. don't think you'll have a problem with a porty though as they don't dump water, or do they? i've no idea, well shut up then,ok i'll shut up.
derek
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 25, 2008, 07:53:17 pm
i love my new dri master tool

yes it does use a lot of water but thats down to the way its used however with a big water tank it realy deosnt bother us so much
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: from edge2edge on November 25, 2008, 07:59:05 pm
Cleansmart are doing them for £399 plus vat which is more than i have been offered a new cfr and hose for so quite simply has anyone used both and which is the best.I dont want to spend out twice if possible.Any comments appreciated guys/gals
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 25, 2008, 08:04:51 pm
wow thats a hard one ive got both and i like them both however i mostly use the drimaster however if the suite minging and i mean minging i will use the cfr over the drimaster as im so use to the old style hand tool which ive used for years

saying that the cfr as not been used in a long time
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: CarPete Cleaning on November 26, 2008, 09:34:36 am
Hi there, I'm interested in getting one of the new drimaster handtools - can anyone give me an idea of how many litres I would get through to clean a 3 piece suite connected to my powr-flite perfectheat porty?
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: from edge2edge on November 26, 2008, 12:29:17 pm
Pete i have just had an email from matt at cleansmart ref the price £399 plus vat and i need to know the same as you so will email him back now.Regards Alan
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: derek west on November 26, 2008, 02:13:36 pm
i'll have a guess, 300psi bout 60 gallons an hour.
derek
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: from edge2edge on November 26, 2008, 02:37:10 pm
Pete just got the reply from Matt at cleansmart he says he has never tried it with a powerflite and would i let him know the result if he lets me trial one.(quite a smart reply me thinks) regards Alan
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: Ian Rochester on November 26, 2008, 06:32:42 pm
We got a drimaster tool from hydramaster on a trial, can't remember if it was 14 or 30 days, anyway, phoned them back after less than a week and bought it, £399+vat.

It's an excellent tool, once you get used to it, more suited to a TM than a porty as the water usage is quite high.  Whenever possible we have a mains hose feeding straight into the machine as it will empty the best part of 200ltrs from a tank on a normal suite clean at 300psi  :o
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: colin thomas on November 26, 2008, 06:54:06 pm
derek, get real, 60 galls an hour,   :o  that's a lot of water to clean a suite, i cleaned a 3-piece, large lounge, large diner and h/s/l today and had a third of a tank of water left when done. but then i do use the best furniture hand tool you can get bar none, the CFR,   ;),

colin
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: from edge2edge on November 26, 2008, 06:56:17 pm
Thanks for the replies Ian and Colin .I think its water usag isnt going to be viable for me as a portable user so maybe buy the cfr handtool for now.Regards Alan (swindon)
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: colin thomas on November 26, 2008, 07:08:50 pm
ian, i am seriously amazed, surely there is something wrong if you use 200ltrs (44gals) for one suite, i clean at around 300/350psi with the cfr and the water usage is very little compared with the amount you seem to use. i run a hm 427, what do you use?
please don't be offended i just find that a lot of water to use,

colin
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: derek west on November 26, 2008, 07:09:58 pm
colin
i never mentioned cleaning a suite.
just guessing how much water the drimaster uses per hour at 300 psi, bet i'm not far out.
derek
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: gwrightson on November 26, 2008, 07:12:01 pm
got to agree with Colin 200ltr water on a 3 pc  never  ,

i would say around 50ltr and thats if I leave the valve open forgetfully
geoff
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: Derek_Walker on November 26, 2008, 08:09:03 pm
I have cleaned suites using the drimaster with truckmount and portable, water usage with the portable averaged out at about 12 gallons / 60 litres. The truckmount uses slightly more.
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 27, 2008, 01:00:42 pm
thing is if your laszy like me ull use 300 lts for a suite because i dont turn the thing off when cleaning but haveing a big water tank makes you laszy
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: Joe H on November 27, 2008, 01:17:33 pm
More then a bit wasteful on the water Susan  :o
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: CarPete Cleaning on December 08, 2008, 07:44:20 am
Hi all,
just had the new version of the drimaster tool on trial.  I love it !!  No second pass needed on flat surfaces, although on edges etc, you can extract more by a a second pass.  I used about 65 litres for a 3 seater, 2 seater and an armchair, so that would be around 60 litres for a 3 piece suite I would think.  I am definately going to buy one.  I used my powrflite at 100 psi and the control valve on the handtool set at halfway.  I found the drimaster much easier on the wrist compared to my cfr handtool.  Hope this helps anyone who is interested.
cheers, Pete.
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: JandS on December 08, 2008, 09:34:33 am
65 litres for a 3 piece, that's a lot of water especially if your a porty user.
I usually reckon on between 14 and 16 for one.
 depending on state.
Might give the free trial a go though.

John
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: colin thomas on December 08, 2008, 06:32:07 pm
easier on the wrist?  tart!

 :-*
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: gwrightson on December 08, 2008, 06:57:10 pm
John ,

Because he has quoted 65 ltr water used to clean a suite, it does not mean he is litraly putting that amount onto the suite.
using a drimaster  ,  the water is sucked back up when the tool is not in contact with the fabric, therfore the high usage rates.

geoff.
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: Steve_Knight on December 09, 2008, 12:32:45 am
Hi All
When using the new Drimaster do any of you turn the flow control valve off after cleaning to do extra dry strokes?

Cheers

Steve
Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: JandS on December 09, 2008, 09:30:43 am
Lot of wasted cleaning solution then going in the waste tank     not for me then stick with my new toy from Prochem.

John

Title: Re: Hydramaster handtool
Post by: gwrightson on December 09, 2008, 04:04:49 pm
Steve , I dont give extra drying strokes, i dont even do drying strokes,  no need

John, as for wasted cleaning solution going into the tank, not really  as no water goes into tank when the valve is off, and lets be honest the pennies it would cost when you have lifted the tool of the fabric is minimal, 99times out of 100 i only rinse with fresh water anyway on suites.

cant believe the skinflints worried about about a few pennies when their getting £50+ per hr  ;)

Geoff