Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: R-CLEAN on November 24, 2008, 09:05:00 pm
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I know it depends on a few different things but just for a rough idea how much would you guys/girls charge for 1 lounge carpet and 4 bedrooms carpets?
3 of the rooms are average house size rooms and 2 are small bedrooms.
Just going to price the job tomorrow morning ?
Thanks Ralph
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£150 as a rough guess, £30 per room.
Looking at 3 hours work for 1 man.
Mark
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35p sq foot or even seven bob in old money ;D
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That's almost three half crowns Tony.
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£140.00
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same as mark, maybe slightly quicker though, depends on the draft marks if any.
derek
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140-160.......
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Try £95 that'll get you it.
People are tightening their belts.
£150 and they'd laugh you out the door here.
Be the "busy fool" the money comes rolling in.
Not like the quiet fools sat at home all day.
John
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Presuming you're doing all of the carpet in the bedrooms, and presuming room sizes typical for a 4-bed detached house of:
lounge 220 ft
bed 110ft
bed 100
bed 80
bed 70
(total 580 ft)
Approx £175
What about the stairs and landing?! Gonna float over them on the way to the bedrooms?
Still presuming we're talking about a decent 4-bed detached, it's probably a C-shaped landing of at least another 80 ft and a set of stairs with a half-landing...
230 quid all in, one day, one job, simple. Home in time for Countdown. Shame Vorderman's getting a bit wrinkly now :(
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Try £95 that'll get you it.
People are tightening their belts.
£150 and they'd laugh you out the door here.
Be the "busy fool" the money comes rolling in.
Not like the quiet fools sat at home all day.
John
You forgot about the "fool" bit ::)
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£95.00
you are kidding arn,t you John
I,m cleaning a 4 bed today 2 are ensuites, bedrooms only .
Custys words," not to bothered ,just give them a freshen up as photorapher coming to take pics as house going on market."
Price £140.00
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80 pounds for me
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I thought you had increased your prices Susan!!!
Geoff
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Same as mark and derek £150
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Thats v cheap ::)
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i have but im doing it steady, have just up my suites as i can live without them
dont want to have to start marketing for work its a pain much rather inch up prices and take it from there
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Ralph Jims works out at 30p sq foot my suggestion is 35p as i charge. Only you can decide but PLEASE don't work for some of the silly LOW prices that are quoted £90 less running cost which are not small over a year make these sort of prices a nonsense you might aswell go and stack shelves at Tesco's Not that there is anything wrong with that ;)
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Susan
What price do you charge for a suite then or an avaerage guide ???
Clinton
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Susan
What price do you charge for a suite then or an avaerage guide ???
Clinton
clinton im abit unsure weather to post as the last time i did people thought i was takeing the micky also theres a strong band of people that think we trun up in beaten up old piles of poop to clean our custys stuff how ever i know that your not like that so heres what we are now chargeing
75 -85 for all suites that being say two chairs one three seater in dralon with all cushions to do i.e. both sides , useing a t.m. brand new van all the chems that i can get in the van useing the best tools money can buy no short cuts what so ever was chargeing around 40 pounds two years ago
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Susan
Your posts have ALWAYS been very refreshing and honest. Good to see you have followed your own instincts and raised prices gently.
As you'll notice, there are a fair number of new posters with greatly differing attitudes. What's interesting, is that a number of " more established " c/c's have been posting some excellent stuff without making daft claims.
robert m
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£180 cleaned and dried, plus push for HSL @ £40 and £90 scotchguard throughout. Be prepared to do a deal if not, no point going in at less than you could have had! Ive got one very similar at that price in a very normal house, the customer thought it was reasonable. Half days work.
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Will be starting up in the new year - and without measuring per sq ft? At a guess, 3 average size rooms £30 each (£90) & 2 small bedrooms £25 each (£50)
£140 total - that's dry vacuming, pre-spotting, extraction & blow dry - a day's wages
- would never do that for under a 100 squids
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Not all wages running costs / tax / national insurance / libility insurance / equipment / materials etc etc etc you need to charge an amount that leaves PROFIT NOT JUST WAGES so you can pay all these items and still end up with a wage worthy of your time and effort running a business
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just from reading your post and within about 4 seconds I came to £130.00, im glad im in the right ball park!!
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clinton im abit unsure weather to post as the last time i did people thought i was takeing the micky also theres a strong band of people that think we trun up in beaten up old piles of poop to clean our custys stuff how ever i know that your not like that so heres what we are now chargeing
75 -85 for all suites that being say two chairs one three seater in dralon with all cushions to do i.e. both sides , useing a t.m. brand new van all the chems that i can get in the van useing the best tools money can buy no short cuts what so ever was chargeing around 40 pounds two years ago
Susan
Well thats a good honest reply and you do seem to be puting up your prices.
I know you have got your new truck mount in your van any picies please susan ???
Cheers :)
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Will be starting up in the new year - and without measuring per sq ft? At a guess, 3 average size rooms £30 each (£90) & 2 small bedrooms £25 each (£50)
£140 total - that's dry vacuming, pre-spotting, extraction & blow dry - a day's wages
- would never do that for under a 100 squids
You will probably find that £140/day covers overheads and a fairly basic wage over a 5 day week, is that enough?
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Susan, when others with similar equipment are charging upto twice those prices why are you so cheap? No criticism, just wondering.
Susan
What price do you charge for a suite then or an avaerage guide ???
Clinton
clinton im abit unsure weather to post as the last time i did people thought i was takeing the micky also theres a strong band of people that think we trun up in beaten up old piles of poop to clean our custys stuff how ever i know that your not like that so heres what we are now chargeing
75 -85 for all suites that being say two chairs one three seater in dralon with all cushions to do i.e. both sides , useing a t.m. brand new van all the chems that i can get in the van useing the best tools money can buy no short cuts what so ever was chargeing around 40 pounds two years ago
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Rich, what i meant is that i reckon it would take a day to do 5 rooms & the £140 would cover materials, equipment upkeep & a days wage, (which i think would be better than what i get from my factory job at the moment...)
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VERY LOW days wage
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I have just cleaned a quite newish 4 bedroom house in Darlington County Durham average soiling average Stairs hall and landing And smallish through room, it took me two hours in all to clean, the house was totally empty and I got £150 cash ! thats £75 quid per hour ! why be greedy ? the customer who has a property business has me cleen for then at least twelve times a year
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to go to the effort of running a business, and from my experience, really you need to be earning twice that, if you get a problem with a van or machinery then if thats all your earning, it could put you out of business in a day!!
i really dont understand why some people go into business for that sort of money, your better off working for someone.
another thing that everyone is missing the point with is this, you cant go in to a job with the price as your selling point, you need a usp, just take a look at woolworths, they didnt have one, now there gone, simple!
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Course you are Russell just pick up the phone and call one of the thousands of firms offering £140 or so per day...............only problem is WHERE ARE THEY ?
According to what I hear, virtually all manufacturing and service companies are laying people off, so it might be wise to consider where you might be in a year's time.
If you're earning £280 a day ( double the £140 you reckon is rubbish ) you would be wise to make it work for you, because it might be a lot harder to earn half of that in a years time.
Incidentally, Woolworths did have price, as a reason to buy from them and it worked for over 100 years. Pity you were'nt around to advise them in 1909 when they got that daft idea !!!!
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carlton care, you really are talking out of your a**e
on an average day i earn 3-4 hundred, and where i live, there are plenty of jobs in factories where with a little bit of overtime you can easily earn 100 quid a day (which is probably more than you would earn if you took 140 before running costs)
il tell you my prices, which are probably below average
3 piece fabri £99
3 piece leather £129
carpet at £0.35 sq/ft
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the trouble is there are too many cheap people about like you mr carlton
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Mr Carlton & Mr James, it's evident that prices largely depend on where we are geographically located to some extent.
When I lived up in Cumbria working for a C/C in a rudely named town, Cockermouth, I would pick up (for the boss) roughly twice as much cash, as I would for working on exactly the same type of suite in Maryport or Workington. Both within an 8 mile radius....
Surely this is going to apply from county to county! There could never be a national price as such because some C/C's simply wouldn't have the clientelle that could afford it!
Just a thought!
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I quoted 2bedrooms, lounge and small diner plus 3 small rugs, 150 over phone.When I got there was shocked how dirty they were and almost walked away.I spent 8 hours cleaning them,the lady was very nice fed and watered me all day,and gave me 200.My brother works 40 hours a week for 250 so Im not complaining,and the rugs only took half an hour.
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and your brother gets paid holidays, and gets sick pay he has no expenses for vans, equipment insurance etc, etc .and the chances are he also gets benifits if that is all he is taking home .
Not really a comparison I think, having said that £200 per day every day aint bad if you get it :-\
Geoff
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i agree that price is sometimes affected as to where you live, but if you go to argos, or tescos, you will find the price the same for everything, if you sell your business on price, you will always have competition, if you have a unique point to sell, you wont
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Agree it depends on where you live.
I do nearly all my domestic quotes over the phone so don't have to spend time driving round to look at jobs saving time and diesel.
Live in a built up area with other built up areas surrounding me so travel times to the jobs are rarely longer than 30 mins and that's mainly due to traffic not distance.
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If I can plan it right as well can get 2 or 3 jobs in the same day within 10 mins of each other.
£99 for a 3 piece, no chance round here.
I chanced my arm on Monday at £65 and after some humming and arghing got a yes.
John
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there are people in my town who clean a suite for 40 quid, they cleaned a 1200 sqft office in town last week for a hundred quid, i charge almopst 3 times what they do, i often get to quote where they have, i normally get the job too, if you run a business then to some extent you need to be a salesman, i never quote over the phone and never put prices on flyers or any ads, if people want a quote over the phone, then they normally want a cheap job, i sell myself on my skills, not price
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just out of curiuosity JandS, do you have a chem dry operating near you? if so, what do they charge?
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1 x chem dry wicksey and 1 x local chemdry and 1 with address in 4 different towns. 2 of the towns on the ad have 0800 1 has 0845 and 1 has the area code but it's a Wakefield address with a Leeds area code.
Don't know if CDW and CD are the same.
3 different ads for them in YP.
01484 886890 Hudds.
01924 496103 this is my local area code but the area of the address is one I've never heard of and I know the area very well, is the CDW one.
Like I said , choice of 4 numbers on the 3rd ad tell me if you want them.
John
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Course you are Russell just pick up the phone and call one of the thousands of firms offering £140 or so per day...............only problem is WHERE ARE THEY ?
According to what I hear, virtually all manufacturing and service companies are laying people off, so it might be wise to consider where you might be in a year's time.
If you're earning £280 a day ( double the £140 you reckon is rubbish ) you would be wise to make it work for you, because it might be a lot harder to earn half of that in a years time.
Incidentally, Woolworths did have price, as a reason to buy from them and it worked for over 100 years. Pity you were'nt around to advise them in 1909 when they got that daft idea !!!!
Rob
I know you think you are the "second coming" when it comes to business advice but comparing A high street shop to a carpet cleaning business is quite frankly ludicrous. ~The Woolworths thing has been a bomb waiting to go off for a long time (surprised it did'nt happen sooner.
What Russell has said is very true and whilst you are correct that some will be laid off next year this means that many will not be replacing but repairing/refreshing etc. so your argument is flawed and as for "refreshing views" I know Susan and Julian work hard to make their business work but as someone else has said, geographics play a massive part as does an individual firms mktg strategy. So with referrence to the top end like Dave Liahona (lets not get too jealous) and people who price at the lower end it won't be down to price that will sort out the wheat from the chaff it will be about hard work and diligence in all disciplines of our business.
Pete
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the reason i was asking you about chem dry and if they operate near you is this, they probably charge 2-3 times what you do, (based on you doing a suite for £65) and they get the work, so what im saying is that its not about the price
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Might ring and get a quote for the hell of it.
Never see them about, in fact only seen one other cc around here and that was only once driving past one day.
That's in 12 months
John
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If I can plan it right as well can get 2 or 3 jobs in the same day within 10 mins of each other.
£99 for a 3 piece, no chance round here.
I chanced my arm on Monday at £65 and after some humming and arghing got a yes.
John
John,
Dont want to come accross as showing off but i only live 10 mins from you, i do work in your area infact i was in Honley yesterday cleaned 2x2 seaters, lounge/diner, SHL and got paid £180.00 for 4 hours work, then came to Halifax and did a £75.00 job. Started at 10 and home for 4.
This is the norm, so you can earn good money in our area if you go about it the right way.
People know that the cheapest is rarely the best.
Mark
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And Mark will tell you that compared to Chemdry and others his pricing is in the middle and the customers are better, the quality of items to clean are cleaner and they respect you more.
If you purposely buy the cheapest beans in the supermarket then you have no chance but if you think that you do a better clean than someone else who charges the same money (or more money) then you are under rating yourself.
Selling cheap gromits is great if you can get rid of shed loads in a flash but cleaning takes time and time is our profit.
Look at Woolworths they work on the principles of selling loads at a fair profit but I have a mate who sells BMW's and he is just as busy as last year, people like a quality job done, the 2 hardest things are finding the customers and telling yourself that you are worth the proper money.
Shaun
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Pete
Never tried walking on water and at 14 stone reckon I'd sink. There was no comparison between retailers and carpet cleaners intended, the comment was a response to the " might as well get a job " comment.
I was earning more 15 years ago ( pro rata ) than Russell is today but never felt the need to criticise, or insult others who were working for less.
In my dotage, I can only do a couple of small jobs, or one decent one per day and average around £50 -£60 for each hour worked, so that keeps me, not from choice, working just three hours a day.
I just sense there are too many around who only want to put in minimum hours, but expect to still get paid for a days endeavours.
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But isn't that a time old arguement Robert?
Shaun
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It's one that will always return Shaun. I don't agree with bottom end pricing although some will say £50-£60 an hour is bottom end, which is rubbish of course.
Don't really think it's an argument anyway............some will build a sound business on moderate pricing and high standard of work. They will get referrals without asking and their marketing costs will be minimal.
Also, and you've been around long enough to know what I mean when I say that an experienced and competent professional, can get through a job in half the time it would take a less worldly wise operator and
still get a top notch result, which means he / she will potentially earn more on an hourly basis.
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Speed is one thing but the knowledge of the speed is another it doesn't have to be physical as chemicals or should I say cleaning products can make all of the difference if you know how to use them properly.
So Yes I agree with you Robert, a job can yield the same money but you may get the same out come (if not better) if you know your products you can do it in less time therefore saving you TIME, that's why a lot of cleaners buy TM's but also look at chemicals and techniques.
Shaun
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Same old crap.
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So what gems do you have to offer Diamond ???
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Where do you live Mark?
Halifax?
Bit more than 10 mins but yes you are near.In my 1st year full time so just taking anything on at al at mo.
Any advice gratefully accepted.
You TM or Porty?
John
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Pete
Never tried walking on water and at 14 stone reckon I'd sink. There was no comparison between retailers and carpet cleaners intended, the comment was a response to the " might as well get a job " comment.
I was earning more 15 years ago ( pro rata ) than Russell is today but never felt the need to criticise, or insult others who were working for less.
In my dotage, I can only do a couple of small jobs, or one decent one per day and average around £50 -£60 for each hour worked, so that keeps me, not from choice, working just three hours a day.
I just sense there are too many around who only want to put in minimum hours, but expect to still get paid for a days endeavours.
the reason i insulted you was completely reciprical, so you were earning £146,000 a year 15 years ago, how many people did you have working for you and what trade were you in?
sometimes we need to criticise some people for thier own good, i dont really want to see businesses go under, if im being nasty this is not intended, but you telling people turning over 140 a day is good is complete rubbish
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I got my oven cleaned the other day for £50. Took him 3 hours. Hes happy to earn £400 a week.
However this is actually below average wages based on £23k. Also to pay for 4 weeks holiday, pension, illness insurances, sick pay etc would bring his pay down another £3000 approx a year.
At those figures youd be better off in Tescos with the relative security that provides.
Although you do have to be competitive in your area you also need to earn a good standard of living for you and your family AND your future. It seems the nation lives for today and dosent provide for tomorrow.
It does take time to build up to a level of income but after spending £28k last year on business expenses you do need to realistic financially.
Mark
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done a job today 1 leather sofa 1 chair 1 small bed room and stairs charged 190 they showed me a quote fom chemdry 188 but they said they prefered me del :)
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Where do you live Mark?
Halifax?
Bit more than 10 mins but yes you are near.In my 1st year full time so just taking anything on at al at mo.
Any advice gratefully accepted.
You TM or Porty?
John
John,
Im based in Ripponden, only 10 mins to ainley top.
Let me have your mobile number and i will start passing enquiries your way, will have loads of work i cant fit in from now until end of Jan at least. You are welcome to send me an e-mail if you wish to keep your details private.
Mark