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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: peter holley on November 18, 2008, 08:41:13 pm
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my 12 yr old daughter is being bullied at school :( its not physical but verbal....she is a shy person....anyway , i drop her off in the mornings in my van which is nicely signwritten and is only 2 years old. i have found out this evening that some of the kids in her school have been laughing and taunting her because i am a wc :o
now i know that my paypacket and the buisness i am building gives me self respect , but this still annoys me >:(
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:D Sounds familiar, my daughter insists I go nowhere near the school in "that van"
It's a nice van!
Kid's have always been horrible to one another... any reason will do!
I was the son of a "Marine" I have "Ginger hair", my life was a nightmare. :'(
My dad would say "get tough, don't get even... beat the so and so"
My advice is just tell her you love her (more often) and tell her even this will pass! 8)
(yes, before anyone say's it I am a soppy old so n so!) ::) ;)
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I'm trying to think of something to say - but it's difficult, isn't it.
Hope someone else can come up with something. Keep looking.
Mike
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They're probably just jealous cause her dad can afford to take her on decent holidays every year and her clothes aren't old and scabby and she lives in a nicer house than them and her dad's van is newer than the crappy little bangers their dads drive ....... should I go on?? ;)
Pop in an have a chat with her teacher; probably best when your daughter's not around as a parent talking to a teacher is very uncool; I've four kids from 8 to 20 so I know this to be true :-[
Good luck to you and enjoy your hard earned holidays whilst the little scroats picking on her kick their heels in the street 8)
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Dont get me wrong but your daughter would probably be bullied about something [ as you say she is quite shy ] what you do and peoples perceptions of it is merely something they can latch on to . I knew a lad at school who was bullied because his parents where very well off ? How many parents OWN their own business , how many are managing directors , how many dont have to kiss arse to their bossess daily ? How many work such long hours they can't drop their kids off at school ?
I was talking to this fella the other day who does the same job i used to do [ decent job £35k basic + bonus of upto 20% ] he was being nice enough but i could tell he was looking down on me he asked how much i got from this contract work i do [ takes about 6 hrs a time ] so i tell him , then he asks how many i did last week, so i tell him , then he does the maths then his face changes his voice goes up an octave and he makes an excuse and moves on priceless ;D ;D ;D
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They're probably just jealous cause her dad can afford to take her on decent holidays every year and her clothes aren't old and scabby and she lives in a nicer house than them and her dad's van is newer than the crappy little bangers their dads drive ....... should I go on?? ;)
Pop in an have a chat with her teacher; probably best when your daughter's not around as a parent talking to a teacher is very uncool; I've four kids from 8 to 20 so I know this to be true :-[
Good luck to you and enjoy your hard earned holidays whilst the little scroats picking on her kick their heels in the street 8)
yes i'v been in to see the teacher, and they have been very good....its not just the wc thing, its coz she is shy and has red hair(although she is areal pretty girl and her hair is beautifull) its like a strawberry blond colour.
weve just moved to a brand new 4 bed detatched in the middle of arecession;D so my daughter knows we aint poor, and she has said this to the bulleys , but kids can be so cruel. >:(
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Dont get me wrong but your daughter would probably be bullied about something [ as you say she is quite shy ] what you do and peoples perceptions of it is merely something they can latch on to . I knew a lad at school who was bullied because his parents where very well off ? How many parents OWN their own business , how many are managing directors , how many dont have to kiss arse to their bossess daily ? How many work such long hours they can't drop their kids off at school ?
I was talking to this fella the other day who does the same job i used to do [ decent job £35k basic + bonus of upto 20% ] he was being nice enough but i could tell he was looking down on me he asked how much i got from this contract work i do [ takes about 6 hrs a time ] so i tell him , then he asks how many i did last week, so i tell him , then he does the maths then his face changes his voice goes up an octave and he makes an excuse and moves on priceless ;D ;D ;D
lol its funny , its hard not to resist lettig the figures slip to the snobs
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kids can be horrible. i hope it will pass, she will make good friends soon enough and it is not down to how you earn a living. the little horrors would find another reason as they are pack animals. best of luck.
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Yep, pack animals. They would only find something else to bully her about. >:(
It will pass, but keep insisting the school do something about it. If nothing changes, then write a letter to the governors insisting they do something about the situation.
I hope the situation gets better for her quickly. :)
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When i was at school i was [ still am ] small 5' 8 , 11 stone [ now ] and my surname is really "LOVE" ie lovewindows no one messed with me [ bit like that song by johnny cash a boy named sue ] got so many kickings it stopped hurting and i could still kick back !
Thing is my older bigger brother got picked on something rotten it just wasn't in his nature to fight back [ although he used to paste me ????] what i'm trying to say is stuff like this happens , it's life , it's tough , and she'll get through it ,and if she's pretty like you say after 13yrs old she'll have loads of lads who will protect her [ thats when your problems really start] ;D ;D ;D ;D
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kids can be horrible. i hope it will pass, she will make good friends soon enough and it is not down to how you earn a living. the little horrors would find another reason as they are pack animals. best of luck.
thanks for your replies simon fox anw ian w, she has some good freinds and some are very handy with the mouth ,but she has to learn to stick up for herself...... meanwhile i will stay in close contact with the school
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When i was at school i was [ still am ] small 5' 8 , 11 stone [ now ] and my surname is really "LOVE" ie lovewindows no one messed with me [ bit like that song by johnny cash a boy named sue ] got so many kickings it stopped hurting and i could still kick back !
Thing is my older bigger brother got picked on something rotten it just wasn't in his nature to fight back [ although he used to paste me ????] what i'm trying to say is stuff like this happens , it's life , it's tough , and she'll get through it ,and if she's pretty like you say after 13yrs old she'll have loads of lads who will protect her [ thats when your problems really start] ;D ;D ;D ;D
thats what her teacher told me today....lol...these boys will be feeling alittle different in a year or 2 grrrrrr grrrr ...a father just cant win ::)
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Got 4 kids 1 grankid NO YOU CAN'T WIN as i said lifes tough .
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Bullying is terrible - I remember a guy at the boot school I went to got bullied really badly for about 2 years until he lost it and came into school and beat 7 shades out of the 3 boys who bullied him.
He still HATES the boys who bullied him, just goes to show how much emotional damage bullying can do.
I don't know what to suggest you do mate other than go beat the bells out of the other kids parents!! nah I'm only kidding, I'm sure it'll work itself out.
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Remember the saying' If kids were to rule the World then what a cruel world it would be'
So true, so true
Steve
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About ten years ago my son was physicaly bullied at school. On my third visit to the schools head teacher ( after he made all the right noises and did nothing on previous meetings) I told him if it happened again I would personally bounce him around his office until he took his digit out his rectum and took action. Result: three kids removed from school.
Probably wouldn't get away with it these days mind you!
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who cares if you get away with it or not - your kids well being is more important than a fine or getting locked up for an evening or two.
I think all kids should learn to stick up for themselves, to know how to deal with bullies and how to stand their own ground, however there comes a time where its not possible for them to do that and that is where we as parents come in.
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who cares if you get away with it or not - your kids well being is more important than a fine or getting locked up for an evening or two.
I think all kids should learn to stick up for themselves, to know how to deal with bullies and how to stand their own ground, however there comes a time where its not possible for them to do that and that is where we as parents come in.
Your quiet right, on both points
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I honestly believe that some people project themselves as a victim - I am not saying this to offend any one or that they in any way choose or deserve to be a victim.
I cannot say why it is so but it is.
I have a suggestion that often works, if your daughter is interested try and get her into a drama group / school it really builds self confidence and subsequently self confident children tend not to get bullied.
My daughter now 20 and is only 4'9 tall and always been into drama singing etc. she was super confident even as a three years old.
Luckly she never suffered from bullying but many of the kids that joined the various drama groups, stage schools etc. she was in as a very young child had and that is why their parents encoraged them to join - as their confidence grew the bullying faded.
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Hi m8
its only because its different to the norm, my daughters used to get the fun taken out of them because I drove a vw campervan..and its always the same'''if its different people use it to upset or bully others......theres no answer to the problem of bullying.....
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I honestly believe that some people project themselves as a victim - I am not saying this to offend any one or that they in any way choose or deserve to be a victim.
I cannot say why it is so but it is.
I have a suggestion that often works, if your daughter is interested try and get her into a drama group / school it really builds self confidence and subsequently self confident children tend not to get bullied.
My daughter now 20 and is only 4'9 tall and always been into drama singing etc. she was super confident even as a three years old.
Luckly she never suffered from bullying but many of the kids that joined the various drama groups, stage schools etc. she was in as a very young child had and that is why their parents encoraged them to join - as their confidence grew the bullying faded.
last weekshe tookpart in a school production of high school musical....she had to dance and sing infront of hundreds, and through this she has met other freinds, but she seems to get singled out,but i agree that she needs to have more self confidence...
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.theres no answer to the problem of bullying.....
Can't quite agree with this, I'm afraid.
I'd agree to: "There's no answer to the problem of bullies."
There is an answer to the problems that they cause for the bullied. There are two possible answers.
1 - Find out what it is about your personality/behaviour that invites bullies to pick on you and change it.
2 - Don't give a rat's ass about the nasty low-life bullies and just go about your life as if they don't exist. They usually lose interest and go and pick on someone else.
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.theres no answer to the problem of bullying.....
Can't quite agree with this, I'm afraid.
I'd agree to: "There's no answer to the problem of bullies."
There is an answer to the problems that they cause for the bullied. There are two possible answers.
1 - Find out what it is about your personality/behaviour that invites bullies to pick on you and change it.
2 - Don't give a rat's ass about the nasty low-life bullies and just go about your life as if they don't exist. They usually lose interest and go and pick on someone else.
Yeah great, but how do you explain this to a 12 year old girl?
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.theres no answer to the problem of bullying.....
Can't quite agree with this, I'm afraid.
I'd agree to: "There's no answer to the problem of bullies."
There is an answer to the problems that they cause for the bullied. There are two possible answers.
1 - Find out what it is about your personality/behaviour that invites bullies to pick on you and change it.
2 - Don't give a rat's ass about the nasty low-life bullies and just go about your life as if they don't exist. They usually lose interest and go and pick on someone else.
Yeah great, but how do you explain this to a 12 year old girl?
I've taught hundreds of girls and boys of this age. Most of them are perfectly well able to understand the ideas.
If you REALLY want to know how to apply the ideas, email me and we can talk.
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this is a interesting thread as my 8 year old had some verbal bullying when he moved to his new school, since he is the smallest kid there he takes after his mum even his younger brother age 5 is bigger than him, its hard to no which way too deal with these problems, Ive talked to my boy as much as i can about this Ive just started to teach him to fight but with what i know in the way of fighting an self defence its hard not to show him some real devastating moves but I'm trying to keep it simple ish as i don't want him beating the crap out of them and getting a big head and becoming the bully as i hate bully's, in 14years on the doors i hate bully's and like to bully a bully sad i know but to me back then it was fun Ive seen 45 year old bully's in the pubs, schools hands are a little tied up these days its hard for them to deal with bully's as the kids these days start on the teachers, we had the cane back in my days once you had that a few times you sort of learnt a little or the local bobby would come to see you near end of school and you would get a clip around the head or worse, they use to carry i heavy wooden truncheon and it hurt, but those days are long gone, well hope it all works out well for anyone in this world of kids being bully-ed at school, i don't know if what I'm doing with my son is right but its the only way i know how to deal with it.
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I reckon you are doing the right thing Smithy.
I am no fighter and got bullied badly throughout my school years. I was about 15 and one of the bullies just got to me and I took a swing at him. Never had a problem after that... ::)
Bullied kids should be taught SELF DEFENCE in my opinion. The world seems to be getting more violent and I can only imagine what it might be like in a few years time.
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its anti bully week this week aswell
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yea hate to think of the future for our kids its spiraling out of control, i too once had a experience with a bully when i was 13 it was only one boy all he kept doing each day was trying to get me to fight back and at that time i wouldn't this is what fueled him and he kept on, this went on for nearly a year then i saw the red mist he wishes it never happened and guess what i got suspended from school for a while, this was the start of a bad streak in me to this day i wish i never found that streak in me it caused me some much trouble in my younger years even got me sent to a boys home, then later on in life it caused me to see the inside of a prison, then of coarse because i became a violent sh*t it then attracted some unsavory friends this then became a world of naughty behavior from violence to drugs then to the world of being a bouncer, sometimes i wish things where different for me but i learnt a lot along this path, then i had kids and my life changed and i changed with it, due to my past its hard to try bring your kids up in a sensible way, i'm glad i also became a window cleaner as this has helped me change my ways to a honest living and as a result of these changes in my life its helped me become a better person and father, still have the mist but i have learnt to control it better over the years, as a moral to this story is i had never had that bully years ago would i have been the way i was, see bullying can have a long term effect on you when your young, so it needs to be handled with care.
ps. taff just send a army of sheep into the school lol.
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My son was getting bullied by one boy who was bit of a tuff nut ,this was going on for 3 months.
My wife and i said the normal stuff said we would talk to teachers but my son said no way.
I took my son to one side and told him to hit him next time but make sure you do a proper job no softly softly , and explained to him that he might get up and return the favour.
Anyway the day came and my son did loose it and did a proper job.He hit him and he fell over so he hit him again ,made the boy cry in front of everyone .
The wife went mad at me for the advice i gave him ???
Then we got a phone call from headmaster say can we come in .
so we did and he said he given are son a dt but not to worry because he knew something was going on from some other complaints about this boy and hes written a letter to the boys parents warning them that he might be suspended. ;D
He never got bullied again. ;D