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Title: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: michael papworth on November 18, 2008, 05:43:36 pm
OK. Here's my two penn'orth.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=edWbys20Cdw

What do ya'all think of it?
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Oakley Windows on November 18, 2008, 05:46:53 pm
Interesting, the bloke needs to practise his technique though, has he just started or somefin?  ;D
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2008, 05:55:33 pm
What`s wrong with the top right bit of that window then it dosen`t seem to be getting it`s fair share of soap lol,the squeeggee is to small aswell.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: michael papworth on November 18, 2008, 05:57:10 pm
I used a small squeegee intentionally as it shows the technique in more detail.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 18, 2008, 06:00:27 pm
Sorry but i fell aspleep half way through this video Boring Boring Boring. Also i think your technique needs improving a bit.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Oakley Windows on November 18, 2008, 06:01:27 pm
It just occured to me Wally, that you'll probably get some guys moaning at you. What they'll say your doing is showing people recently laid off from their jobs how to do window cleaning. Most Joe Public views window cleaning trad as a skill hard to learn and now someones showing them how to do it.

Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: jefftemperley on November 18, 2008, 06:06:34 pm
you should demonstrate the technique cleaning a window at speed using the kit you would normally for that size pane.
ie soap up window 4 strokes of applicator.
blade off using 4 strokes of blade.

key to earning any money when trad is speed......  fannying around too much is what i see loads of guys do when they are working , never could understand why they dont set a high pace and get the job done either earn more money or go home earlier that way!
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: brett walker on November 18, 2008, 06:07:37 pm
Hi wally

nice little vid for beginners  8)

there was nothing around like that when i first started

ive been cleaning windows for 18yrs now and for that reason im out  ;)

regards ;D

Brett.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Steve CM on November 18, 2008, 06:08:44 pm
someone please wake me when this guy has finished! ;)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: clean on November 18, 2008, 06:09:52 pm
I can`t do with them tiny toy tools,you need a mans applicator and squeegee minimum 18",windows that small only need a microfibre cloth  ;)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 18, 2008, 06:13:06 pm
Wally the window washer - Your making yourself look even more of a wally than ever in this video  ;D ;D
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Slash on November 18, 2008, 06:16:12 pm
I'm surprised you did'nt wash the glass away ;D,your brave doing it at the front of the house,what would the neighbours think of somebody taking almost ten minutes to do a small pane ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D,but all in all very helpful for someone starting out.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Slash on November 18, 2008, 06:19:05 pm
I can`t do with them tiny toy tools,you need a mans applicator and squeegee minimum 18",windows that small only need a microfibre cloth  ;)
???
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: ccmids on November 18, 2008, 06:22:52 pm
i use an 18 inch squeegee on most jobs whats the advantage with small one when a 18 seems quicker to me
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: jefftemperley on November 18, 2008, 06:23:54 pm
just watched the whole 9mins and 1 sec with sound................................. wally......... you wally
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: clean on November 18, 2008, 06:24:59 pm
I can`t do with them tiny toy tools,you need a mans applicator and squeegee minimum 18",windows that small only need a microfibre cloth  ;)
???

Slash,think about it  ;)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: clean on November 18, 2008, 06:26:29 pm
i use an 18 inch squeegee on most jobs whats the advantage with small one when a 18 seems quicker to me

Spot on  ;)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: doak on November 18, 2008, 08:50:35 pm
mate

as a newbie i thought it was great   nice work

can you advise on minor detailing

if i have the odd drip left i panic  because i normaly end up making a hash of the minor microfibre or scrim work

cheers ;)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 18, 2008, 08:56:41 pm
mate

as a newbie i thought it was great   nice work

can you advise on minor detailing

if i have the odd drip left i panic  because i normaly end up making a hash of the minor microfibre or scrim work

cheers ;)
if you are worried about drips, before you use squeegee to take of soap just run your scrim over the top first this will eliminate any drip's ok
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 18, 2008, 09:05:28 pm
Doak -   what i would suggest is just practice,practice makes perfect,The are so many different ways to squeegee a window and all i would say is keep practicing and do it the way that feels best to you,And dont listen to other's,You will find that the majority of wc have different ways of doing it and they would all say that the way they do it is the best.
Hope this help's
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: pjulk on November 18, 2008, 09:11:21 pm
Nice little video for beginners.

Now you want to do one showing how to clean windows with applicator and squeegie at the same time.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Gordon Saunders on November 18, 2008, 09:13:24 pm
 There are much better examples of good window cleaning techniques on you tube than this rubbish . Sorry Wally but thats the truth.
 G
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 18, 2008, 09:14:04 pm
Or if you want to be really clever do a video with a mop and squeegee in both hands and do two windows at the same time ;)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: michael papworth on November 18, 2008, 09:15:59 pm
mate

as a newbie i thought it was great   nice work

can you advise on minor detailing

if i have the odd drip left i panic  because i normaly end up making a hash of the minor microfibre or scrim work

cheers ;)

Thanks. It was you and other newbies that I made it for.

The biggest learning for me was to keep a constant moderate pressure on the squeegee even when changing direction. (For ages, I was getting a line at the top right corner where I changed from going across to going down. The pressure thing eliminated that.)

I learned by doing exactly what the video showed:

stage 1 - practise cleaning the middle and sides.

stage 2 - practise cleaning the middle, sides and bottom edge.

stage 3 - practise cleaning just the top part.

stage 4 - put it all together.

Couldn't agree more: practice makes perfect.

Actually, perfect practice makes perfect. Imperfect practice leads to bad habits and inefficiencies.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: michael papworth on November 18, 2008, 09:16:41 pm
Or if you want to be really clever do a video with a mop and squeegee in both hands and do two windows at the same time ;)

I'm sure we're all looking forward to it. When will you post it?
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: seandyer2003 on November 18, 2008, 09:18:38 pm
you should demonstrate the technique cleaning a window at speed using the kit you would normally for that size pane.
ie soap up window 4 strokes of applicator.
blade off using 4 strokes of blade.

key to earning any money when trad is speed......  fannying around too much is what i see loads of guys do when they are working , never could understand why they dont set a high pace and get the job done either earn more money or go home earlier that way!

4 STROKES? you just need one big splash in the middle, or better yet wfp :)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 18, 2008, 09:19:48 pm
Im not saying that i can do that perfectly but have acheived it with some sort of success,I think we have all probably had a go. ;)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: michael papworth on November 18, 2008, 09:24:53 pm
There are much better examples of good window cleaning techniques on you tube than this rubbish . Sorry Wally but thats the truth.
 G

There may well be better examples, but your use of the word "rubbish" is quite uncalled for.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 18, 2008, 09:30:50 pm
There are much better examples of good window cleaning techniques on you tube than this rubbish . Sorry Wally but thats the truth.
 G

There may well be better examples, but your use of the word "rubbish" is quite uncalled for.
Ignore them wally, at least you are trying to help the newbie's on here. Everyone on here has there own technique and your's obviously work's for you and that's all you need.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Trotsky on November 18, 2008, 09:32:20 pm
 ;) I admire your devotion! 8)
I will say it is a bit long... (I am sure you will agree, if your honest! ;)
If I saw this when I started I would have said it was helpful and I would have been thankful!  8)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: karlosdaze on November 18, 2008, 09:37:12 pm
www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/window-cleaning-videos-for-beginners.html

www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/window-cleaning-videos-for-beginners_10.html

www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/more-window-cleaning-videos.html

Great video Wally! The newbies have to start somewhere, as someone else mentioned, these vids weren't around when we started.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Trotsky on November 18, 2008, 09:58:26 pm
www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/window-cleaning-videos-for-beginners.html

www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/window-cleaning-videos-for-beginners_10.html

www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/more-window-cleaning-videos.html

Great video Wally! The newbies have to start somewhere, as someone else mentioned, these vids weren't around when we started.
8) 8) 8)
I just watched the top video listed above!
I was really impressed, I thought I knew just about everything I needed to know about blade-ing, Squeegee-ing a window... obviously not!
What's really interesting is I hardly use them anymore, but I was still fascinated!  8) 8) 8)
cheers for that karlosdaze
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Simonhammer on November 19, 2008, 09:27:44 am
Credit to you Wally. Good video for beginners mate. Well done.

And for all those knocking Wallys video...funny, I don't see any of yours out there and NONE of you seem prepared to put your money where your mouths are and make a video to show how it's done properly (because you are all obviously so much better at it than Wally).

Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Gordon Saunders on November 19, 2008, 05:44:56 pm
 Wally
  My apologies for the use of the word rubbish. To clarify i dont think your technique is very good for several reasons .
  1 - Excess Fanning at the bottom of the window
  2 - To much water
  3 - To much soap.
  4 - Lifting the squeegee off the window after 2 strokes (why).
  5 - Squeegee to small
 
 Did the video really need to be so long
   
  Just my opinion
  G
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 19, 2008, 05:53:01 pm
Wally
  My apologies for the use of the word rubbish. To clarify i dont think your technique is very good for several reasons .
  1 - Excess Fanning at the bottom of the window
  2 - To much water
  3 - To much soap.
  4 - Lifting the squeegee off the window after 2 strokes (why).
  5 - Squeegee to small
 
 Did the video really need to be so long
   
  Just my opinion
  G
You obviously watched the video but you didnt listen. the extra soap and excessive fanning was done over and over again to demonstrate techniques,He obviously doesnt take this long normally.Ithink it was more intended for newbie's not experienced wc like you. ;D
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: jaykie on November 19, 2008, 05:53:27 pm
Wally
  My apologies for the use of the word rubbish. To clarify i dont think your technique is very good for several reasons .
  1 - Excess Fanning at the bottom of the window
  2 - To much water
  3 - To much soap.
  4 - Lifting the squeegee off the window after 2 strokes (why).
  5 - Squeegee to small
 
 Did the video really need to be so long
   
  Just my opinion
  G

Did you have sound on when watching
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: jaykie on November 19, 2008, 05:54:24 pm
sorry i didnt refresh page and see that cleanglass has said the same
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 19, 2008, 05:57:09 pm
sorry i didnt refresh page and see that cleanglass has said the same
Nice to see thats its not just me that noticed that G must be death.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Gordon Saunders on November 19, 2008, 06:24:31 pm
death or deaf?

Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 19, 2008, 06:30:24 pm
death or deaf?


Deaf
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: s.hughes on November 19, 2008, 06:33:46 pm
Is our job really that boring? I never really thought about it until I saw that
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 19, 2008, 06:35:06 pm
Is our job really that boring? I never really thought about it until I saw that
Its not boring when you see these through the window ;D
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Gordon Saunders on November 19, 2008, 06:35:45 pm
not deaf , feel like death.
 didnt have sound on video so several(although not all ) points are irrelevant.
 G 
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Gordon Saunders on November 19, 2008, 06:36:51 pm
cleanglass i never see anything like that. least not at work
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: s.hughes on November 19, 2008, 06:37:53 pm
If I saw that I would fall off my ladder
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 19, 2008, 06:39:19 pm
cleanglass i never see anything like that. least not at work

You should come and work with me, Ive see many a boob and even shagging GREAT 8)
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Gordon Saunders on November 19, 2008, 06:40:05 pm
does that make you a peeping tom ? ;D
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 19, 2008, 06:42:11 pm
does that make you a peeping tom ? ;D
Maybe ;D
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: jaykie on November 19, 2008, 06:45:08 pm
Ill have to come work with you CLEANGLASSUK if thats what you see, and your only up the road from me.

Chris
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: s.hughes on November 19, 2008, 06:47:20 pm
When I started w/c I thought it would be like the film 'Confessions of a w/c'
Not so for me

Steve
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Trotsky on November 19, 2008, 08:27:45 pm
 ;) There is one thing to be said for this forum, after a while you can change your mind/view/opinion...
Just read the whole thread again and noticed this to be cleanglass's case!
Started of bored then started defending!  ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 19, 2008, 08:30:49 pm
Not bad, but I don't know why he does such big tall arches with it. ???
Just covering more ground you've already done.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: Kevin R on November 29, 2008, 12:34:17 pm
OK. Here's my two penn'orth.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=edWbys20Cdw

What do ya'all think of it?

I have a member of staff that has been struggling with learning the basic technique. I have taught several guys over the years to squeegee so I was thinking this guys a little slow. I remembered seeing Wally's video and thought its worth a try.

When I first watched Wally's video, for me it was quite long winded but the new lad loved it. He liked the fact that it was broken into sections - top - middle and bottom. I have always taught in one pass as it were.

Well Wally's video has done the trick he's still a little slow but his technique is spot on - it has also taught me to teach the technique in three sections - So thank you Wally  ;D


Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: michael papworth on November 29, 2008, 07:25:42 pm
OK. Here's my two penn'orth.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=edWbys20Cdw

What do ya'all think of it?

I have a member of staff that has been struggling with learning the basic technique. I have taught several guys over the years to squeegee so I was thinking this guys a little slow. I remembered seeing Wally's video and thought its worth a try.

When I first watched Wally's video, for me it was quite long winded but the new lad loved it. He liked the fact that it was broken into sections - top - middle and bottom. I have always taught in one pass as it were.

Well Wally's video has done the trick he's still a little slow but his technique is spot on - it has also taught me to teach the technique in three sections - So thank you Wally  ;D




I'm truly delighted that it's been of use to someone who wanted to learn. That was my motivation in making the video in the first place.

Interestingly, the begining isn't always the best place to start. When I taught English as a Foreign Language I often used a technique called back chaining. So to teach the pronunciation of photographic, for example, I'd teach students to say:

GRAPH-ic
to-Graph-ic
pho-to-GRAPH-ic

I had that idea in mind when I designed the video.
Title: Re: How to use a mop and squeegee
Post by: karlosdaze on November 29, 2008, 07:42:58 pm
www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/window-cleaning-videos-for-beginners.html

www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/window-cleaning-videos-for-beginners_10.html

www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/more-window-cleaning-videos.html

Great video Wally! The newbies have to start somewhere, as someone else mentioned, these vids weren't around when we started.

Here are some gung-ho videos, some you've probably seen before, others not, enjoy!

www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/11/radical-squeegee-ing-showing-off.html

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