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Title: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: marc on November 18, 2008, 04:21:35 pm
hi tosh have read posts on the diy pole and i mysdelf have done the same and can not wait to use it in the morning but my question is if i want to extend it any further from the 16ft it is at the moment what is the best way if i put another end pole up i only gain another 18in if i use one or 3ft if i use the last two is there another pole that can go on the end that could give you 4 or 5ft thanks for any help marc
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Tosh on November 18, 2008, 06:01:17 pm
Marc,

If this is a Zensorflex pole, you can buy another one; they're under £20 delivered; and you can use the bottom two sections of the second pole to give you another 3 foot of height.

That might sound strange, since each section is 3 foot long, but they slide into your main pole quite a long way.

It's also not exactly a waste of money, since you will have spare sections to replace any you may break on your main pole; however; the pole is extremely robust (though I don't use the 3rd section, which I suspect you do, and can still 'slap' windows shut with it).

But to be honest, a lightweight 15 foot pole will do the majority of your first floor work; it's so light that you can work with it with your hands above your head, but I wouldn't reccommend this for a lot of work (repetitive strain injury and all that).

You also may want to consider an 11 meter gangster pole for 2nd floor (3 storey) windows; I used my gangster for an external gutter clean yesturday, on a big posh house, and it was great.

I hope this has been some help.
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: marc on November 18, 2008, 06:04:34 pm
thanks tosh where can i get a gangster from    marc
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 18, 2008, 06:19:50 pm
Can I but in  ;), it doesnt have to be a gangster from Cheshire fishing, there are  quite a few good Margin poles out there like the Leeda Triumphant power carp. 10m £39.99 But the gangster 11m was the one I settled on after viewing what was best value for money, someone like smithys SWC might have better ideas of say a 13m pole. What you really really want is one that has parallel extension sections like the Maver or F16 at £250 - there are probably others just a question of going through a 3 month evaluation of all the fishing poles and having got what I wanted I just dont feel like doing it all again. The fishing poles are strong enough if you treat them properly mine are getting on for 4 years old now. 
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 18, 2008, 06:21:58 pm
Oh yeh heres the link to the gangster http://www.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/rthompson/poles.htm
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Tosh on November 18, 2008, 06:25:26 pm
What you really really want is one that has parallel extension sections like the Maver or F16 at £250 - there are probably others

Jeff,

What do you mean by 'parallel extension sections'?

Do you mean if you buy one of these poles you can get additional sections to add to your existing pole and they just slot in extending the pole; no problems?
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: matt on November 18, 2008, 06:26:08 pm
the section isnt tapered, its the same dia both ends
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Chris Galloway on November 18, 2008, 06:29:59 pm
Oh yeh heres the link to the gangster http://www.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/rthompson/poles.htm

Get the ganster from mullarkeys its 8-9 quid cheaper!
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 18, 2008, 06:33:08 pm
What you really really want is one that has parallel extension sections like the Maver or F16 at £250 - there are probably others

Jeff,

What do you mean by 'parallel extension sections'?

Do you mean if you buy one of these poles you can get additional sections to add to your existing pole and they just slot in extending the pole; no problems?
Your last section is tapered so some manuf make a tapered section to fit it that will then allow any nuber of none tapered parallel sections to be added as needed.As the F16
Cheers Chris- good price.
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Chris Galloway on November 18, 2008, 06:33:26 pm
http://www.mullarkeys.co.uk/fishing/search/gangster/0/

the proper url for the site :D
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: clean on November 18, 2008, 06:36:25 pm
the section isnt tapered, its the same dia both ends

No Matt,the top end of the section is tapered so it will fit into the next section,
parallel  sections are sections that will fit each other so you can keep adding the same size butt sections  ;)
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 18, 2008, 06:38:42 pm
Parallel extensions all fit into each other in any order, tapered have to be put together from small to large.
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: matt on November 18, 2008, 06:40:49 pm
the section isnt tapered, its the same dia both ends

No Matt,the top end of the section is tapered so it will fit into the next section,
parallel  sections are sections that will fit each other so you can keep adding the same size butt sections  ;)

thats what i meant  ;), that you can just keep adding them onto each other, the very end would of course need to be tapered slightly to allow the pole to fit into itself
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 18, 2008, 06:45:54 pm
here is a handy 13m from chris mallarkey site http://www.mullarkeys.co.uk/fishing/search/Map/2/ now if it is strong enough and the F16 extension would fit into it that would be cool. Anyone live near them to get hands on ?
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: geefree on November 18, 2008, 06:47:10 pm
so can i get a parralled section... to fit to the bottom of my pole, rather than buy another pole...?...) even tho its 20 quid tosh )
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Tosh on November 18, 2008, 06:51:09 pm
Can I but in  ;),

Of course you can!  I'd just like to say that this 'fishing pole' thing isn't my invention; I'd hate to think that anyone would give me credit for it;  in fact I found it fairly late on.

Jeff Brimble was the first to start using 'fishing poles' as a WFP, and manufacturers have copied and developed Jeff's invention since then.

I've just got a big mouth, which is why there's a sudden interest in them.
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Chris Galloway on November 18, 2008, 06:55:46 pm
Can I but in  ;),

Of course you can!  I'd just like to say that this 'fishing pole' thing isn't my invention; I'd hate to think that anyone would give me credit for it;  in fact I found it fairly late on.

Jeff Brimble was the first to start using 'fishing poles' as a WFP, and manufacturers have copied and developed Jeff's invention since then.

I've just got a big mouth, which is why there's a sudden interest in them.

well, i think it was your "try it" or i'll give you £30 thread that hooked me :P I been in the market for a new lightweight pole, and i would have bought a SL-X but non wer instock, since then i used the money on other things :P so i thought id try it to see how they wer.. i got 2 zensor's so once i have ordered my other parts such as the brush head, i can give it a go, if i like it, then i'll go for a bigger pole.
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Tosh on November 18, 2008, 07:16:52 pm
Chris, for your routine two-storey work, you'll love the Zensorflex; the sections are an ideal size; they're easy to put on remove to increase or decrease the size of the pole (no clamps, worn poles, 'slidey' sections or 'swivelly' brush heads).

I'm cross I didn't do this two-years-ago when I first read about it.  Maybe I just didn't believe something so cheap could be so good. 

But, it's easy to do; it takes about fifteen minutes; and if you have the work that warrants an off-the-shelf light-weight pole, get one, and keep it for 'best'.

Use the cheap DIY pole for bashing about your routine two-storey work.

Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Trotsky on November 18, 2008, 09:21:05 pm
Chris, for your routine two-storey work, you'll love the Zensorflex; the sections are an ideal size; they're easy to put on remove to increase or decrease the size of the pole (no clamps, worn poles, 'slidey' sections or 'swivelly' brush heads).

I'm cross I didn't do this two-years-ago when I first read about it.  Maybe I just didn't believe something so cheap could be so good. 

But, it's easy to do; it takes about fifteen minutes; and if you have the work that warrants an off-the-shelf light-weight pole, get one, and keep it for 'best'.

Use the cheap DIY pole for bashing about your routine two-storey work.


Tosh, will you do a vid, I've read your threads, seen the pics, I even understand the way to do it!
What I am having trouble with is the actual :Working with it"
I mean do you have to take the brush of each time to "Add" lengths?
I must be thicK!
Ok the tubing's on the outside no problem, i could live with that!
Everyone seems to be doing it, so it must be me... can you help?

I have just finished a harris pole, which was easy (pipe inside) nice easy job!
so why can't I get this concept?  :'( :( >:(
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Tosh on November 18, 2008, 09:38:51 pm
Trotski,

I can't do a vid, I haven't got a cam-corder thingy; and even if I did; I wouldn't know how to upload the video thing.

Just get a DIY pole, if you want to, and have a go.  If you don't like it, you haven't lost much; but it's not difficult to work out how to do it.

Regards,

Tosh.
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: marc on November 18, 2008, 10:20:25 pm
THANKS for your help guys i got a spare pole for extra lenth and once i get used to it i may loook in to getting a gangster thanks again for your help                  marc
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Chris Galloway on November 18, 2008, 10:26:21 pm
Chris, for your routine two-storey work, you'll love the Zensorflex; the sections are an ideal size; they're easy to put on remove to increase or decrease the size of the pole (no clamps, worn poles, 'slidey' sections or 'swivelly' brush heads).

I'm cross I didn't do this two-years-ago when I first read about it.  Maybe I just didn't believe something so cheap could be so good. 

But, it's easy to do; it takes about fifteen minutes; and if you have the work that warrants an off-the-shelf light-weight pole, get one, and keep it for 'best'.

Use the cheap DIY pole for bashing about your routine two-storey work.


Tosh, will you do a vid, I've read your threads, seen the pics, I even understand the way to do it!
What I am having trouble with is the actual :Working with it"
I mean do you have to take the brush of each time to "Add" lengths?
I must be thicK!
Ok the tubing's on the outside no problem, i could live with that!
Everyone seems to be doing it, so it must be me... can you help?

I have just finished a harris pole, which was easy (pipe inside) nice easy job!
so why can't I get this concept?  :'( :( >:(

No the section that you cut down, and modify to get your polebrush head extender on in order to screw onto your brush is the same piece and you use that bit for all work. You then build up your pole from the larger sections as you need them at your jobs.

Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: davids3511 on November 18, 2008, 11:02:22 pm
Guys, I am really interested in this for over long extentions and conservatories. However, I did DIY a fishing pole from Aldi and on the very first window - nearly horizontal, the bottom section split and rendered the whole thing useless. That put me off a bit.

Are these any use for this kind of work?
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Tosh on November 19, 2008, 08:00:41 am
Guys, I am really interested in this for over long extentions and conservatories. However, I did DIY a fishing pole from Aldi and on the very first window - nearly horizontal, the bottom section split and rendered the whole thing useless. That put me off a bit.

Are these any use for this kind of work?

Yes, they are; start off with the Ron Thompson Zensorflex; it's cheap to do, I use that for stuff over conservatories.

Maybe the Aldi pole wasn't strong enough, the the Zensorflex is.
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 19, 2008, 02:42:23 pm
I would say the glass fibre zensorflex is the strongest/cheapest modular pole on the market.
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Tosh on November 19, 2008, 03:54:26 pm
I would say the glass fibre zensorflex is the strongest/cheapest modular pole on the market.

I've been using mine for a month now, and I've really abused it (I've two of them, so I'm not frightened to break a section since I've got spare); I can push and slap windows shut and bash it about.

Awkward angles are great also; no problems.

It's a corking bit of kit.
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Trotsky on November 19, 2008, 09:12:36 pm
Trotski,

I can't do a vid, I haven't got a cam-corder thingy; and even if I did; I wouldn't know how to upload the video thing.

Just get a DIY pole, if you want to, and have a go.  If you don't like it, you haven't lost much; but it's not difficult to work out how to do it.

Regards,


No the section that you cut down, and modify to get your polebrush head extender on in order to screw onto your brush is the same piece and you use that bit for all work. You then build up your pole from the larger sections as you need them at your jobs.
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I have just been out in the shed to get my pole out!
It's a second hand 8m20  Amiral h.garbolino, anyhow...

This was doing my head in! >:(
Because the pole pieces are "tapered" I just could not understand how you put the smaller section into the larger one, they are designed to slide "up inside" the other are they not?
You're placing them in from the top, unless I had tried it I would not have believed it possible... thick err!
Well as someone once said... I see the light!
Thanks to one and all, I can now follow the threads again!
Just one question?
why the tape?
mine seem to not need it!
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: matt on November 19, 2008, 09:20:08 pm
h ttp://wfpole.110mb.com/

OR

h ttp://wfpole2.110mb.com

you can slide it over the top, as my site above, i use a bit of unger pole and a brush adaptor ( works out a similar price as the way tosh does it )

the tape is to stop the pole going too far inside the other bit, which is then VERY hard to pull out
Title: Re: tosh question about ya diy pole
Post by: Trotsky on November 19, 2008, 09:22:26 pm
h ttp://wfpole.110mb.com/

OR

h ttp://wfpole2.110mb.com

you can slide it over the top, as my site above, i use a bit of unger pole and a brush adaptor ( works out a similar price as the way tosh does it )

the tape is to stop the pole going too far inside the other bit, which is then VERY hard to pull out

Many thanks, I will look at them tomorrow, Cheers ;)