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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: C-N-C on November 11, 2008, 10:33:55 pm

Title: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: C-N-C on November 11, 2008, 10:33:55 pm
hello eveyone, :)
hope ya sound!!!! ;)
Quick Q for ya please :-[
i always buy the yellow 18ft fibreglass poles from cleaningspot/chick cleaning,
i think they called extel or extenderpoles......
now after a bit of work they seem to ware down verry quick ,,,the clamps wont keep pole up at a hight and the top little sectios spinns from slackness,they are starting to cost me a fortune...........

please any advice is appreciated,b4 i go bankrupt :)

thank you

C-N-C ;)
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 11, 2008, 10:41:23 pm
hello eveyone, :)
hope ya sound!!!! ;)
Quick Q for ya please :-[
i always buy the yellow 18ft fibreglass poles from cleaningspot/chick cleaning,
i think they called extel or extenderpoles......
now after a bit of work they seem to ware down verry quick ,,,the clamps wont keep pole up at a hight and the top little sectios spinns from slackness,they are starting to cost me a fortune...........

please any advice is appreciated,b4 i go bankrupt :)

thank you

C-N-C ;)


Yes they are cheap.  No they don't last very long.  I had two.  One lasted nearly a year, the other about threee months.  I regard them as a handy domestic pole to get you started if funds are tight but no more than that.  I suppose you can save money by just buying the bare pole and switching brush and hose over to the new one.  I ended up spending more and getting something that was more usable and where the clamps actually stayed stuck to the pole.
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Tosh on November 11, 2008, 10:52:36 pm
My posts are wasted on some members!  ;)

Why not try a DIY pole?  For £20 you can't go far wrong and you'll love it.
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: d s windowcleaning on November 11, 2008, 11:02:09 pm
My posts are wasted on some members!  ;)

Why not try a DIY pole?  For £20 you can't go far wrong and you'll love it.
dont want to make your head swell tosh but ive got to agree your post are wasted on some members  :)
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 11, 2008, 11:13:43 pm
My posts are wasted on some members!  ;)

Why not try a DIY pole?  For £20 you can't go far wrong and you'll love it.

Yes I sdaw that stuff about converting a fishing pole.  I would like to try that sometime but got too much other stuff to catch up with at the moment.  I intend to do it but other stuff is more important at the moment.
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Tosh on November 11, 2008, 11:24:44 pm
Yes I sdaw that stuff about converting a fishing pole.  I would like to try that sometime but got too much other stuff to catch up with at the moment.  I intend to do it but other stuff is more important at the moment.

Paul,

What possibly could be more important than making a DIY WFP for £20?  Are you having a baby or something; you personally I mean?

Here, order your fishing pole from here:

http://www.swiftys-fishing-tackle.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/6583

Now!

Once it arrives, it'll take fifteen minutes to make.

You could do it between your contractions.

You big girl you... what could possibly be more important... sheesh!  ::)
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Wayne Thomas on November 11, 2008, 11:36:43 pm
Tosh, I've timed myself using DIY fishing poles. Some jobs are just a fraction quicker with these poles compared to telescopics and other jobs are noticeably quicker. But the difference is;  fishing poles are cheaper and SO MUCH LIGHTER, (doesn't feel like I'm actually working), so light and easy, no brainer really ;D Only wish I'd taken notice of Jeff & Matt months ago ;D (No wonder they'll never go back to normal poles), I'm sticking with my DIY pole, love it, really easy ;D

Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Chris Galloway on November 11, 2008, 11:41:55 pm
Yes I sdaw that stuff about converting a fishing pole.  I would like to try that sometime but got too much other stuff to catch up with at the moment.  I intend to do it but other stuff is more important at the moment.

Paul,

What possibly could be more important than making a DIY WFP for £20?  Are you having a baby or something; you personally I mean?

Here, order your fishing pole from here:

http://www.swiftys-fishing-tackle.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/6583

Now!

Once it arrives, it'll take fifteen minutes to make.

You could do it between your contractions.

You big girl you... what could possibly be more important... sheesh!  ::)

what size are the sections used for these types of DIY pole?
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Tosh on November 12, 2008, 07:57:15 am
what size are the sections used for these types of DIY pole?

3 or 4 foot, which might sound short, but it's ideal for domestic work when you've got a lot of windows at varying heights and access problems (walls/hedges close to where you're working).

When putting the Zensorflex pole away, I just half the pole, so have about an eight foot section and a seven foot section.
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 12, 2008, 08:31:02 am
Yes I sdaw that stuff about converting a fishing pole.  I would like to try that sometime but got too much other stuff to catch up with at the moment.  I intend to do it but other stuff is more important at the moment.

Paul,

What possibly could be more important than making a DIY WFP for £20?  Are you having a baby or something; you personally I mean?

Here, order your fishing pole from here:

http://www.swiftys-fishing-tackle.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/6583

Now!

Once it arrives, it'll take fifteen minutes to make.

You could do it between your contractions.

You big girl you... what could possibly be more important... sheesh!  ::)

You would think so by the size of my belly wouldn't you?  :)
Hang on.  Just got to take some more breaths.  The poles I'm using at the moment are just fine.  Busy clearing the clutter from my home and gradually emptying the garage.  That is more important to me at the moment than making a pole.  The stuff for making the poles will still be there in a few weeks but not sure I can stand living and working in this mess for that long.
Modular not so great for daily use on domestics but with shorter sections than I'm used to, it may just work.
I will definitely revisit this in a few weeks when I have the time.
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Chris Galloway on November 12, 2008, 10:23:14 am
what size are the sections used for these types of DIY pole?

3 or 4 foot, which might sound short, but it's ideal for domestic work when you've got a lot of windows at varying heights and access problems (walls/hedges close to where you're working).

When putting the Zensorflex pole away, I just half the pole, so have about an eight foot section and a seven foot section.
3-4 foot - great, thats exactly what im after!!   how does it cope with reaching over conservatories? or getting to windows at extreme angles?
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: matt on November 12, 2008, 11:00:17 am
what size are the sections used for these types of DIY pole?

3 or 4 foot, which might sound short, but it's ideal for domestic work when you've got a lot of windows at varying heights and access problems (walls/hedges close to where you're working).

When putting the Zensorflex pole away, I just half the pole, so have about an eight foot section and a seven foot section.

mine consists of the top short section

then 2 other sections like yours, ive glued them in pairs, makes it easier to carry etc etc
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Ian Lancaster on November 12, 2008, 12:22:13 pm
Here, order your fishing pole from here:

http://www.swiftys-fishing-tackle.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/6583

Now!

Once it arrives, it'll take fifteen minutes to make.



Just ordered one ;)

We use Cleantech alloy poles at about £35 because the replacement clamps are only £1.50 and the poles last for ages and you can use alloy end cone inserts and run the hose through the pole.

These are 18' and ideal for 2-story work, but a 24' pole for £22 plus conversion bits has got to be worth investigating.

I'll report back when I've got it.

Ian
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Tosh on November 12, 2008, 04:07:29 pm
Ian,

Since you're a 'senior window cleaner' (that's a euphimism for 'coffin dodger' ;D), I'd love to hear your opinion of it.

Use it for a couple of days first though.

I've used a similiar pole to Cleantechs, and I guarantee you'll love the difference; though I'm not offering you a money-back guarantee like I did with Gazza.

However, I'm not sure what you mean by 24' pole plus conversion bits?  The Zensor will give you a tough lightweight pole for £20 that's 15 foot long.  If you buy two Zensors, then you'll have loads of spare sections (but I don't think they're needed; I've been abusing mine, and it's great) and can use the two bottom sections of your spare poles to give you an extra 3 foot; therefore an 18 foot pole. 

But 15 foot is long enough for most routine two-story work.

However, for about £65 you can buy an 11 meter Gangster; which would give you about 23 foot of pole (you can add sections from the Zensor to get you to 27 feet); but I'm still out on how robust this is.  I think it'll be fine for normal three-story work, as long as you don't have anything too extreme (such as using it at acute angles).

I use my DIY Gangster on Friday; so will post about it then.
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: elite mike on November 12, 2008, 05:07:58 pm
cheaper here guys :o

www.mullarkeys.co.uk/fishing/poles-and-accessories/carp-and-match-fishing-poles/0/ron-thompson/7389/
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Chris Galloway on November 12, 2008, 05:09:55 pm
cheaper here guys :o

www.mullarkeys.co.uk/fishing/poles-and-accessories/carp-and-match-fishing-poles/0/ron-thompson/7389/

yeah thats where i oredered mine (2 of em)
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: geefree on November 12, 2008, 09:23:42 pm
cheaper here guys :o

www.mullarkeys.co.uk/fishing/poles-and-accessories/carp-and-match-fishing-poles/0/ron-thompson/7389/

good link for  future ref :) cheers
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: pjulk on November 12, 2008, 10:02:47 pm
And if you are not keen on the fishing pole idea.

You can always nip down to B&Q and get a harris pole which is £15 far better than the extender.
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Ian Lancaster on November 13, 2008, 11:16:51 pm
Ian, I'm not sure what you mean by 24' pole plus conversion bits?  The Zensor will give you a tough lightweight pole for £20 that's 15 foot long.

That's me having a 'senior moment'.  I overlooked the fact that the top two sections taper away to about knitting needle size ;D

As for discarding the third section, I've found that the aluminium end cone from Cleantech  http://www.cleantech.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_36&products_id=221  will fit exactly over the end of the third section, just take out the spring retaining clip, so no need for any cutting.  With all except the top two sections the length is almost exactly 16', so should give a reach of about 20-22'
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Tosh on November 14, 2008, 03:44:51 pm
As for discarding the third section, I've found that the aluminium end cone from Cleantech  http://www.cleantech.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_36&products_id=221  will fit exactly over the end of the third section, just take out the spring retaining clip, so no need for any cutting.  With all except the top two sections the length is almost exactly 16', so should give a reach of about 20-22'

I suspect you may find the third section a bit too thin; but it's worth trying; if it doesn't work you can get a fitting from Emporium that'll go over a cut-off piece on your fourth section.

What do you think of the DIY Gangster pole?  Have you used it yet?
Title: Re: sick of waring out brushes
Post by: Ian Lancaster on November 14, 2008, 07:36:53 pm
Right: final version completed ;D

I've used all except the top two sections and it seems quite robust even at full stretch.  I've jetted a Bentley brush (£5.99 inc handle from Homebase) and fitted it.  I was using a cockeyed tape measure - the real length is more like 19'.  I found an old 'Mr Longarm' that I never got to grips with and took off the bottom section.  A few turns of thick sticky tape packed out the top of it till it fitted inside the bottom tapered section, giving me an additional 5'6" so now the length is 24'6"  Even at this length it still feels strong and rigid.  Allowing for the height of the operative total reach should be about 28-29'

I've sold it to one of my blokes who kept borrowing my 33' Hybrid, so I'll let you know what he thinks of it in due course.

I don't think I would want to use a modular for everyday work, I like the flexibility of a telescopic (adjusting height, that is, not the bendiness - I use a Prolong) but I can see the attraction of the lightness.  When my poor old arms can't lift the Prolong anymore, I might buy another fishing pole :)