Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: hooch on November 10, 2008, 10:26:36 pm
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can some 1 tell me whats the best agitator to get for carpet to bring pile
up before extracting if so were to get and best price.
cheers john
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*unlocked*
big areas a 17inch rotary on smaller areas a SEbo or similar
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I use an Envirodri envirodri.com
Host is similar
but Solutions UK and Restormate have similar machines for sale with vac extreaction similar to the Host machine but a lot cheaper.
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sebos good but light, which suits me, I bought one recently.
hear the envirodrys good for harder agitation.
Something not mentioned on these forums any more is powerscrubs, I still use one somtimes with my TM and its fantastic!
and being 15" can work quickly through large areas.
Mines an alltec rotobrush 15" not sure they sell it anymore but the old man bought it about 12 years ago for £1,800
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i am looking at the sebo but a lot of money any 1 know were their going cheap
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A lot of money ? - they are £ 178 + vat
The other products being mentioned are hundreds more.
Having said that I am waiting to hear about an envirodri for sale - if I can get that for a sensible price you can have my sebo duo for £ 50
Steve
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Get a pile brush about £18.50
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Ian, got a customer the other day wanted to buy a pile brush - said her carpet never looked better.
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I find that a pile/grooming brush is fine for grooming the carpet after HWE, it finishes the job really well, helps provide the wow factor for the customer!
But using a hand brush of any sort will do next to nothing to lift the pile and very little to agitate any MS or presprays!
I use a sebo to agitate One Step as well as lift the carpet pile, it dramatically improves the job we do. In realising the improvement that the sebo generates as a agitator and pile lifter, it encourages me to go for an envirodri or similar, it can only take the end result to another level.
cheers
Paul
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Joe
I had one also who wanted to buy one.
I am really supprised there is no wholsle company that will sell us products to sell on our websites etc And as add ons when in the home where we make 50% and still give customer good deal. Buying from our current suppliers is not a good deal for customers.
Harvey what do you think cleaners used before they all got lazy and aquired sebo duos because every one else had one etc
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Disagree with you Harvey.
Long handled pile brush does an excellant job if used proper.
The ladys carpet in question was a longish twist and looked good even after the prespray brush because of that.
Even better after the clean obviously.
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Your right Joe, i still use a pile brush for agitation 90% of the time and the rotary machine the other 10%.
On your average domestic job the pile brush is more than capable in the right hands
Mark
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Got brushes good for finish no good getting pile up ,steve let me knoe when i can buy sebo duo
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Will do mate - waiting to hear back from seller, as long as its not a silly price we should be able to do a deal.
Steve
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reason for wanting things cheap just started up spent 5000 on equipment and van.
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I sometimes use the brush or the rotory and follow up after on all the cleans with a buffer as i find it helps to take a little bit more moisture from the carpet :)
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Your right Joe, i still use a pile brush for agitation 90% of the time and the rotary machine the other 10%.
On your average domestic job the pile brush is more than capable in the right hands
Mark
Looks like i am outnumbered here :o
I suppose the point that i made was more pointed at pile lifting rather than agitation.
IMO there is no way that standard grooming brush can lift the pile even a small % of efficiency of a sebo, as for agitation well i can only presume similar but maybe Micro Splitters need less working into the carpet than i had been led to believe!
I know that after i have used the sebo thoroughly the carpet often appears much cleaner and generally speaking would be suprised if i could get similar results with a grooming brush :o
Anyways i am sure that on some carpets a grooming brush would do a fine job ;) (there we go i think i talked my way out of that one) ;D
cheers
Paul
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A pile brush can probably do a better job than a sebo duo as long as your willing to put yur back into it ::)
Also one less thing to find room for and to cart in off the van.
Regards Andy Locke.
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A pile brush will not agitate as well as a sebo duo. no way.
pile brush is good for removing hair/dust, thats about it imo.
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A pile brush can probably do a better job than a sebo duo as long as your willing to put yur back into it ::)
Also one less thing to find room for and to cart in off the van.
Regards Andy Locke.
Do a better job of what?
Lifting the pile? or Agitating the MS?
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When using detergents and possibly some other detergent free formulae, but not microsplitters, a pile brush is used primarily to distribute the solutions throughout the pile. These solutions then need dwell time for the soil to be broken down into something that can be rinsed away.
High levels of mechanical agitation will obviously accelerate this soil breakdown as well as opening the pile, lifting out fibrous waste and speeding up the job. Remember T.A.C.T or C.H.A.T.? Reduce one element and you have to make up with another.
A CRB machine in particular offers benefits beyond the chemical side of the cleaning process.
Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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John, both, lifting pile and agitating.
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Over the last three years i've evolved from a pile brush to a duo and now to an envirodri machine and i find the envirodri produces significantly superior results every time for a lot less effort. And anything that requires less effort gets my vote. (it is expensive though!)
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The envirodri gets my vote, I thought I was cleaning to a high standard until I got mine and experienced the difference. Its paid for itself 10 times over as I market my cleaning specifications at the quote stage.
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Looks like the envirodri get a good write up then ???
Do you think its makes easier work than the duo ???
cheers clinton :)
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The worst thing about the sebo is it get clogged up and I seem to be ever pulling wet lint out, it's a bit of a design flaw in my opinion.
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The worst thing about the sebo is it get clogged up and I seem to be ever pulling wet lint out, it's a bit of a design flaw in my opinion.
Agreed but you get what you pay for! The Sebo at about £200 and the Envirodri about £1000 (i think)
By the way i ant being smart saying that as i have a Sebo ;)
cheers
Paul
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Pile brush every time for agitation.
Can't see how a machine will make any difference.
Used to use my Powerbrush but the results where the same using brush.
Brush was twice as quick too and provides more accessibility.
Rarily bother grooming afterwards unless I've got time on my hands.
John
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I use one of these on the real bad ones.http://www.rotowash.com/ It's supposed to be a complete carpet cleaning system, but I wouldn't use it that way.
I managed to persuade a customer to part with it a few years ago. Very good vor agitation due to it's imense weight.
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Looks like the envirodri get a good write up then ???
Do you think its makes easier work than the duo ???
cheers clinton :)
The duo did a good job but the difference with the Envirodri is that the pile gets lifted so much more and looks like it has already been cleaned! I can't praise it highly enough and the fact that you can change the brushes to suit the carpet makes it even better. Its easy to clean as well (much easier than the Duo which was a right pain in the ars*!).
It costs about £1100 brand new but it is definately worth it - i was sceptical because of the cost but once i used it once i forgot about the cost because it does such a good job.
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to john kelly
does the flexi 5 come with different brushes or do you have to buy them seperate?
derek
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Thanks for that reply mate :)