Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: andrew.ralph@homec on November 08, 2008, 05:26:37 pm
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hi all i use a slx pole with a superlite brush that came with it any body tell me whats the difference between a single trim and a double trim and whats the best to use i do mainley houses thanks andy
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Hi,
I maybe wrong, but double trim has the inner portion of bristles shorter. This, I believe, means you can rinse " on the window " with better results.
cheers Kevin J
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Hi,
I maybe wrong, but double trim has the inner portion of bristles shorter. This, I believe, means you can rinse " on the window " with better results.
cheers Kevin J
I think that is correct. I have the original dual trim brush and no longer rinse at all on maintenance cleans, unless I can see some debris on the window. I do scrub more but for less than the time it takes too rinse.
I haven't had a complaint and have been using this brush since it first came out. I have also checked the very odd window and they have been perfect.
I have a Salmon single trim and although good, it does leave some spots if you don't rinse off.
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I have both Mk1 , Mk2 Duel and Single trim brushes from Gardiners - and for me personally the Mk2 Single trim is the best brush I have ever used! :o
Great scrubbing, rinsing on or off - and just the right amount of stiffness in the bristles. Works brilliantly with hot water too :)
Both are great brushes though.
I use both every day
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I never understood dual-trim brushes until I started developing various prototype versions about 18 months ago, up until that time I had only ever used single trim versions (apart from one really bad dual-trim brush I bought).
Now I wouldn't use anything else. I find with the MKII versions of the Super-Lite brushes that the single trim probably scrubs slightly harder, but is slightly harder work to use on the glass. Because of this my favourite brush is the Dual-Trim brush. The purpose of the dual-trim is that it allows the outer bristle to splay more easily to allow the brush to 'work' over the surface of the glass with less effort, but it also has the shorter bristle to stop it splaying completely and to allow tougher scrubbing where occasionally needed.
Brushes are a very personal choice though and different users will always prefer different things.
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thanks for all replys andy
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Any news on the flocked versions.
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Any news on the flocked versions.
About two weeks away.
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My dual trim hs been working particularly well on the spider poo deposits on the frames. There's not a massive difference between single trim and dual trim but it is noticeable but not enough to worry about in my opinion.
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Any news on the flocked versions.
About two weeks away.
Good job Alex,are you going to fill the stock up with bristles like you have the new full trim on the new double trim,i think it would improve it even more there`s still a big gap on the brush doing nothing.Having more bristles wouldn`t spoil the splay.
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You will have to wait and see :)
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The flocked ones are now in stock (ahead of schedule).
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The flocked ones are now in stock (ahead of schedule).
are these just the dual trim ones or is there a single trim version.
thanks alex
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They are just in the dual trim at the moment Trevor. The inner shorter bristles are partially flocked, partially mono-filament to provide superior scrubbing when occasionally needed. They are slightly lighter than the mono-filament version - on my scales 260g with socket.
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They are just in the dual trim at the moment Trevor. The inner shorter bristles are partially flocked, partially mono-filament to provide superior scrubbing when occasionally needed. They are slightly lighter than the mono-filament version - on my scales 260g with socket.
i know , that i should know.... but i still cant get my head around... mono filament,, flocked etc...
i bought a vikan flocked... it was nice and fluffy at the ends of the bristles,,, so i presumed that must be the flock....
at the end of the day the brush was wet (obviously :) )...... and it resembled any sweeping brush wet through.... with no flock.... until it dried...looked good dry though????
:)
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They are just in the dual trim at the moment Trevor. The inner shorter bristles are partially flocked, partially mono-filament to provide superior scrubbing when occasionally needed. They are slightly lighter than the mono-filament version - on my scales 260g with socket.
Are the outer bristles mono-filament and the inner bristles the only ones that are flocked? So does this still allow for rinsing with brush on?
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The outer bristles are flocked/flagged the inner shorter bristles are a mix of flocked and mono-filament to give slightly better scrubbing power. Generally flocked bristle brushes are less suitable for rinsing on than their mono-filament counterparts, but they do have other properties which some users prefer. The main benefit of these brushes over say their Vikan flocked counter-parts is that they are 42% lighter.
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42 % is a massive amount especially on the end of a pole,it will seem like 200% lighter when in use.
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Hi,
I maybe wrong, but double trim has the inner portion of bristles shorter. This, I believe, means you can rinse " on the window " with better results.
cheers Kevin J
yep yuo are right ,
i have the supalite double trim
excellent for rinsing brush on, holds very little dirt
daz
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Any news on the flocked versions.
why would you need a focked version ???
daz
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You might have heard lots of people moaning about brush lines being left on first cleans and having to go over them again,a flocked brush on first cleans or really dirty regular cleans will clean them a lot quicker and better initially without the need to scrub and scrub with a mono on a first clean.A flocked brush also works better on downstairs windows i find over the superlite brush,the superlite brush is superb on tops but i find it`s to flimsy for downs and tends to fold on itself a bit to much.
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Can't beat a flocked brush with fan jets for cleaning soffits & gutterings. I use the small vikan swivel as I find it splays nicely under the guttering just right. Less scrubbing than a mono-filament as the flocked bristles do all the work of loosening the dirt and pulling the brush 4-6 inches away from the plastic allows the fans to spray the dirt away nicely.
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You might have heard lots of people moaning about brush lines being left on first cleans and having to go over them again,a flocked brush on first cleans or really dirty regular cleans will clean them a lot quicker and better initially without the need to scrub and scrub with a mono on a first clean.A flocked brush also works better on downstairs windows i find over the superlite brush,the superlite brush is superb on tops but i find it`s to flimsy for downs and tends to fold on itself a bit to much.
i can see where you are coming from now ;)
daz
i can see where y
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Can't beat a flocked brush with fan jets for cleaning soffits & gutterings. I use the small vikan swivel as I find it splays nicely under the guttering just right. Less scrubbing than a mono-filament as the flocked bristles do all the work of loosening the dirt and pulling the brush 4-6 inches away from the plastic allows the fans to spray the dirt away nicely.
i use a vikan flosked with fans for consev roofs /gutters
the swivel brush looks good , is it light?
daz
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Funny, i only ever saw one person complaining of lines being left with a dual trim mono. Let me think who was that?..........
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Can't beat a flocked brush with fan jets for cleaning soffits & gutterings. I use the small vikan swivel as I find it splays nicely under the guttering just right. Less scrubbing than a mono-filament as the flocked bristles do all the work of loosening the dirt and pulling the brush 4-6 inches away from the plastic allows the fans to spray the dirt away nicely.
i use a vikan flosked with fans for consev roofs /gutters
the swivel brush looks good , is it light?
daz
It's one of the lightest. Mines even lighter as I filed it down to the bare minimum as well. It's better than the vikan sill brush for guttering because it's not so heavy and reaches into the awkward corners easier.
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i was going to buy a swivel brush,... but one of my pole clamps is loose.
so my top piece of pole swivels.. hence, my brush swivels....so i got one now. ;D ;D
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Good job Alex,are you going to fill the stock up with bristles like you have the new full trim on the new double trim,i think it would improve it even more there`s still a big gap on the brush doing nothing.Having more bristles wouldn`t spoil the splay.
Full trim on the new double trim? I bought one 2 weeks ago, and it still had the gaps around the jets.