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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ALAN HAYNES on November 07, 2008, 12:16:36 pm

Title: L5 mod
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on November 07, 2008, 12:16:36 pm
I have now fitted nath mod and it works great you can slow the flo right down to 1 ltr per min if you wanted to

I will not have to have the gas set so high as i will use less water and can set the flo just how i want it ;D ;D

Going from cold to hot is like when you first move from ladders to W F P and you would never go back
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: steven ainger on November 07, 2008, 12:23:52 pm
what was the mod you made alan, was it the flow switch or the relay,  could you put a link up please..
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on November 07, 2008, 12:46:30 pm
no its a flo switch
 this is nath mod
dont know how to do a link but it is from RS PART number is 3956962

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Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: jefftemperley on November 07, 2008, 02:02:24 pm
alan

ive used mine as bog standard and it has seemed ok but has gone out here and there, whats the advantage of the flow switch ? do you have a pic of where the wire goes to?and did you have to disconnect anything inside?

worked with hot yesterday and i must admit its better..... loved the pole getting warm too that will slow the arthirtis a bit!

cheers
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on November 07, 2008, 02:17:46 pm
where the red / yellow/ green go in to the connector and connect to red yellow you disconnect and connect the new sensor to the red yellow

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Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 07, 2008, 03:04:26 pm
I like it Alan.

I think this is what I'm going to have to do with mine. :)
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 07, 2008, 05:09:43 pm
What hoses are you using there Alan? It looks very tidy!
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on November 07, 2008, 05:21:19 pm
dont know what the hose's are got them from x line of the roll
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Spruce on November 07, 2008, 05:23:36 pm
The wife will find her washing machine doesn't work on Monday  ;D ;D
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: jefftemperley on November 07, 2008, 06:40:31 pm
cheers alan

ive got one on back order everyone has beaten me to them!
how is flow rate adjusted ?
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on November 07, 2008, 07:01:06 pm
just use varistream to control flo 

and turn the gas up or down to control the heat
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Windowmania on November 08, 2008, 08:31:18 am
Hi Alan do you use this mod as well as a varistream or instead. Does this unit switch on and of when the water flow is interrupted. Very interested in the system just trying to get my head around it not being the most technical person around
Ben
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on November 08, 2008, 08:46:28 am
the heater needs over 2 lts per min to work and i wanted 1 1/2 this mod lets you do this it will go down to 1 ltr per min

so yes need the varistream aswell
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 08, 2008, 10:13:45 am
This modification does not control your flow rate at all.
Its a simple sensor that detects the water flow rate and switches on the heater,..... just a switch really! But its more sensitive than the built in switch, allowing the heater to run at lower flow rates.
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 10, 2008, 09:14:06 pm
Hay Alan.

I fitted my Micro Switch today - it may be worth noting that the instructions doe's mention to mount it vertically.

Also, where did you get the fittings to enable you to fit the hose? What size are they?

I've got away with PTFE, and Jubilees direct to the threads - but I'm convinced it will stay water tight for long! :-\
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Clive McDonald on November 10, 2008, 09:36:27 pm
I think you are all bonkers to fiddle with the innards, and even more bonkers to post it on a public forum. There is a body that goes around enforcing gas safety. They are mostly concerned with rogue plumbers who are not corgi registered, but none the less undertake the work, and endanger the public.This body has very far reaching powers.

Please, please, please, don't put us onto their radar.Or at the very least if you end up with a punitive fine or a short jail sentence don't say you weren't warned.

There is another way. Use more water and adopt techniques to get the job done faster.
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 10, 2008, 09:38:33 pm
....or use a simple external bypass ?
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: tomy jackson on November 11, 2008, 12:43:26 pm
im on by pass works well , as for gas you can do your owne gas but not any body els
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Alex Wingrove on November 11, 2008, 04:08:59 pm
I think you are all bonkers to fiddle with the innards, and even more bonkers to post it on a public forum. There is a body that goes around enforcing gas safety. They are mostly concerned with rogue plumbers who are not corgi registered, but none the less undertake the work, and endanger the public.This body has very far reaching powers.

Please, please, please, don't put us onto their radar.Or at the very least if you end up with a punitive fine or a short jail sentence don't say you weren't warned.

There is another way. Use more water and adopt techniques to get the job done faster.


your allowed to do what you like on your own equipment as long as you are competent. nothing is unsafe
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Clive McDonald on November 11, 2008, 07:17:48 pm
Posting what amounts to instructions on a public forum?

These people don't mess about, they will hammer you.
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: matt on November 11, 2008, 08:05:44 pm
Posting what amounts to instructions on a public forum?

These people don't mess about, they will hammer you.

unless you add a disclaimer

for information purposes only

or so ive been told
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Clive McDonald on November 11, 2008, 08:16:24 pm
There probably is a certain leeway, as in people using barbecues in their back garden etc. I wasn't trying to be a nelly know all, just warning people who might not know. I wouldn't for example advise you to put any boiler info on your diy site, particulalry not how to disable or overide  internal safety devices.Info only Disclaimer or not.
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: NWH on November 11, 2008, 10:48:58 pm
I had an interesting conversation with a fire officer the other day abou the L5,he told me that unless i got an engineer to look at what i`ve done i would be mad.He said you MUST make sure that you proper hoses and proper fittings from the L5 heater itself,he did say that it was a good idea but having it checked out is a must,after the chat he gave me a free fire extiguisher lol. ;D ;D he also said that the best place to by everything for it from is B.O.C.,they will also sell you the gas.
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Alex Wingrove on November 12, 2008, 12:51:46 pm
I had an interesting conversation with a fire officer the other day abou the L5,he told me that unless i got an engineer to look at what i`ve done i would be mad.He said you MUST make sure that you proper hoses and proper fittings from the L5 heater itself,he did say that it was a good idea but having it checked out is a must,after the chat he gave me a free fire extiguisher lol. ;D ;D he also said that the best place to by everything for it from is B.O.C.,they will also sell you the gas.


you would have to be an absolute idiot, to not get this right, its not different from attaching a hose to a pump, if the water doesn't leak out then your ok, if the fittings are air tight then you are ok

oh and i got everything from boc too
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 12, 2008, 05:06:38 pm
I'd always recommend having a professional fit the heater for you. Lets face it, its 1 Hose with a connection each end,.. how much is it going to cost??!

Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: tomy jackson on November 12, 2008, 06:38:41 pm
sory disscont but you can do your owne iv had transco puting new meter in new box  to the meter from manes is theirs , from meter to gas pipe in house is yours , i wos puting pipe to meter befor thay got thers to it , ther gafer sade your well in formed on gas regs , iv dun it twice now ,in same house its a long story how it came a bout , it cost the boxer next door 6K the clever git but not clever enuf & not man enuf ot clime fence ,
Title: Re: L5 mod
Post by: rhys11 on January 04, 2009, 10:22:54 pm
where the red / yellow/ green go in to the connector and connect to red yellow you disconnect and connect the new sensor to the red yellow


what does this do?