Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ian Rochester on November 06, 2008, 06:11:31 pm
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See JohnnyL from Romania has locked the original topic after he's been caught out fishing for prices of local competition.
As I already said, stop the bragging and keep your prices between yourselves and your clients.
There are plenty on here who will willing work for £10/hour or less and be better off than they have ever been.
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I did not know you could lock your own topic ???
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I've just opened it.
John
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Tut tut Johnny L - naughty boy
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According to the Government he'll be going back home soon anyway. ::)
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apparently
300,000 jam rolls have gone home
not from my local pubs/shops/ they haven't!!! ;D
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No problem with those who pay their way, but the good ones will go and the scroungers know where their bread is buttered.
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I know- he asked me for our prices on here yesterday and I noticed he was from Colchester (very close), I said I wouldn't as he's a bit close to home.
Then I get an estimate enquiry via my website with the exact measurements of all the rooms, exept his stairs - he didn't know how to measure them!! I called him and asked where the property was a he was very unsure where is was ahhh its ahhh well I'm not sure the exact address its near Colchester.
I thought thats a bit strange then remembered johnny on here
mmmm I should be a private investigator!!
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very crafty, wonder if he did go on that course the other day that he said he did?
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i hired a private investigator once, he spent ours and hours looking at my hedge, found out later he was a privit investigater. ;D ;D ;D
sorry couldn't resist
derek
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That's like the dislexic pimp that bought a Warehouse.
Shaun
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Like the dislexic biker who bought a mophead but wanted a moped ;D
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and the dislexic druggie who got high on an F
Andrew
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I'm dyslexic as are many on here, you guys don't realise how humiliating it can be. Like when I went to my first Toga party dressed as a goat.
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or the dylexic agnostic suffering with insomnia, sat up all night wondering if there was a dog. :P
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I collect jokes on all sorts and dyslexic jokes do make me laugh.
I have a mate who is dyslexic and is a bit of a handful and while he was using my computer he came across my dyslexic jokes so I thought dam, now I am in trouble.
After looking at them for a few minutes he turned around to me all red faced and angry looking and said " Gaz, what does this say" so I told him it was an article on Green Carpet Cleaning. Phew ;D
I thought I was dyslexic once, but after extensive tests it turns out I am just plain thick.
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Probably be unpopular for saying this. But I would not see a Romanian setting up anywhere near me as competition. Being honest, how many people would have a Romanian in their house anyway.
Say all you want, I know the answer.
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I wouldn't
I didn't even contribute to the original topic that has been locked due to the bad use of the English language
'do u carge perroom orper sq metre .wic one is better and how much?cheers'
I can't stand questions that look like this. if you want to contribute to a forum at least make an attempt at good english & grammar
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If that was the criteria for replying to a topic on here, hardly anyone would get any replies. ;D
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OOOOoooooh Old MacDonald was dyslexic Ohh Eeh Ayy Ohh Eeh
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Mike O I always think of these forums as blokes sat around a table in a pub, if you wouldn't say it there don't say it on a forum.
imagine if we were sat in the pub and someone we'd never met walked up and said.....
"do u carge perroom orper sq metre .wic one is better and how much?cheers"
I'd tell them to get lost! but if they were polite, introduced themselves, and asked politely I'd answer them.
maybe its just me but its the way I see it
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The written english was a lot better in his estimate enquiry!!
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Well, it was bound to happen and now you know what to expect. Basically, the same as what all trades are up against, with adverts appearing on lamp posts, at roundabouts and other junctions all over the place advertising and underquoting.
WHO INVITED THEM IN------------------WHO REFUSED TO STOP THE FLOW----------------------WHO CLAIMED WE NEEDED THEIR SKILLS ?
The people you voted into government, that is, if you voted for the idealist twats who are currently in charge of the UK
Unless something dramatic happens, It will get a lot worse.
Anyone who thinks they won't be affected is burying their head in the sand.
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Rob hopefully the clients I aim for don't get their trademen off lamppost ;)
if there are immigrant legally entering this country and starting up in carpet cleaning then I honestly wish them every success, and will only say, if you want to be a success in this country then learn to speak our language.
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Mike
Marketing is marketing and prominent adverts at traffic lights and junctions are seen several times by people of all sectors.
Did a job this week for a lady who'd hired a Rug Doctor and was disappointed! What amazed me, was the fact that their home was in a very select and extremely expensive location.
Even her wall paper was commisioned !
So why on earth would someone like that hire a DIY machine?
Her answer, was. " I thought it was a simple little task and not worth getting someone in "
Immigration ?
With thousands of young unemployed men hanging about our streets. Newly qualified doctors / teachers / nurses unable to find work why do we need immigration ?
robert m
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"Why do we need immigration"? You make it sound as though this is something new. Immigration has been with us since the 1950's.
As for all these thousands of young unemployed men hanging around the streeets that you refer to, why don't they kick off by doing carpet cleaning till something in their desired line comes up.
At least it would keep them off the streets.
As for criticising their ability to put a perfect sentence together; would just love to see most on here string a coherent sentence together on a foreign trade forum ;)
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For someone who does not want to encourage or become involved in "banter" you are doing a pretty poor job Elliot. Funny how you cry freedom of speech when it suits you, but you can say what you want, and criticise the grasp of English that some nationals have on here. While we have a bit of freedom left I would like to exercise my right and say enough is enough it is time for SOME immigrants to go home, many are here to milk the system and enjoy the ride, the hard working ones get tarred with the same brush, thats life, get over it.
At least if I was to move abroad and join a foreign trade forum I would not be rude enough and ignorant enough to tell THEM how to write, speak and behave and inflict my misguided beliefs on them as you do. If you don't like it, you know where the door is.
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I would suspect that some immigrants may go home with the current economic climate, I would probably suspect that Mrs, Bucket wants a nice Englishman to walk into her home suited and booted and do a lovely job on her axminster but at a more favourable rate than the well spoken Franchiseman or other professional at double the first guys price, a pigeon english speaking eastern european doesn't fit the bill when she has her family silver on the side board.
This would be a hard profession for foreigners to get into because it's all about trust and stereotypically foreign works aren't seen as trust worthy as they have potentially illegally entered the country.
Ah but that's Britain for you, aren't we all immigrants though??
Shaun
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you forgot the dyslexic drunk,
'he drown on his own vimto'
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Ah but that's Britain for you, aren't we all immigrants though??
Shaun
No, I come from Hampshire stock and no one has ever married outside the immediate family for 3,000 years. ( shame my parents died young and I am an only child, with no sister the bloodline is going stop at me ).
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the more people that enter britain, the more carpets get dirty.
glass is always half full.
derek
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Love your eternal optimism Derek..................so far the only immigrants carpets I've cleaned have been the kind you don't really want.
robert m
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Spot on Derek, Gary do you think the gene poll will be a bit low then? you haven't got an X files style of township have you?
Shaun
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For someone who does not want to encourage or become involved in "banter" you are doing a pretty poor job Elliot. Funny how you cry freedom of speech when it suits you, but you can say what you want, and criticise the grasp of English that some nationals have on here. While we have a bit of freedom left I would like to exercise my right and say enough is enough it is time for SOME immigrants to go home, many are here to milk the system and enjoy the ride, the hard working ones get tarred with the same brush, thats life, get over it.
At least if I was to move abroad and join a foreign trade forum I would not be rude enough and ignorant enough to tell THEM how to write, speak and behave and inflict my misguided beliefs on them as you do. If you don't like it, you know where the door is.
Where does all that come from Garyj?
....cry freedom of speech when it suits you, but you can say what you want... ??? : Well that would indicate freedom of speech but where in my post does that arise
....thats life, get over it. : What is it that I have to get over?
....inflict my misguided beliefs on them as you do. : What beliefs am I inflicting on you? ???
Somewhat bemused by your post
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Immigration has been with us since the 1950's.
Immigration has been with us since before the Romans!
We're all bloody immigrants :)
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Mike H
I'm sure Johnny L's English is better than your Romanian. ;)
I'm sure he'll get there.
If I moved to Romania I'd want to spwak the lingo asap, but I wouldn't speak perfect Romainian from day one and there's only one way to do so.
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Mike the point is that English is the international language, almost everybody around the world can speak at least some english!
When i spent some time in the middle east i was surprised to see the shop signs, they had the name in two languages, Arabic and English. English name was in big writing and the Arabic was in small writing underneath.
as for all being immagrants, you English can speak for yourselves I'm Cornish. We also have our own language but choose to speak the international language for the sake of our stupid neighbours ;D 8)
Cheers Goron
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Am I being thick here. The guy is trying to speak English, worse still write it. So it's not perfect ::)
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Mike you said
I'm sure Johnny L's English is better than your Romanian.
that is bound to be true because like i have already said everybody speaks english as it is the international language.
Cheers Goron
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Well I think a lot of people speak american thanks to SkyTV
My main point is if he was English and semi-illiterate would you dismiss answering his questions?
I can think of at least a couple for very good members on here who are briliant CC and helpful who I have a very hard time understanding their posts.
And then there's the Mrs' texts but those are impossinble to read. ::)
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mike o
but I'm talking about manners and common decency in asking for help, even a semi-literate person would I think still be polite even if his spelling was terrible.
and I wouldn't answer a question asked in the way Jonhny asked even if they were a born & bred Yorkshireman.
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I agree with you on that Mike and I think what he did to someone fairly local who was trying to help him was well out of order.
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Thanks for all your support guys, I did wonder if I was just being Mrs Angry by being annoyed at what he did but I think its justified. Seems like he did follow the advice re getting a laser measure as he's measured all the rooms
So JohnnyL if your reading this we charge 50p per m2 for the first 100m2 then 25p thereafter. Cleaning upholstery £2 per armchair & £8 for a 3 seater sofa. Hope you do well!
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Its difficult and must admit I very really bother to find out if anybody else has qouted etc.
Do your own marketing , try to get diffrent prospcts etc and wait and see what happens
There are a lot of houses out there,
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do your sums, include what you need to get by, how much to run your business, then work out what you need to charge to cover all this, then add on a bit for all the hastle that running a business entails, and hey presto, thats what you have to charge.
it makes me laugh when people check up on competitors prices, then knock a few quid off there own price, and then think they'll do really well cos there cheaper. like i said, you charge what you have to to keep the business afloat, if someones cheaper you up sell your quality and if someones dearer then let your potential custy know they'll get a better quality clean and save a few quid, i only know my competitors prices from what custys have told me, i never researched this before i started cos i don't want to be the cheapest and don't really care what they charge.
does that make sense?
it did when i wrote it, if not then for more details please send a cheque for £20 to affordable cleaners and i'll explain itbetter for you ;)
derek
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Derek
My cheque is in the post
Hear your standing the drinks when we have are noth west c cleaners meet up ;D
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I thought it was now illegal to ring up competition pretending to be a customer with the new silly regs they brought out. :o
I'm not saying do this but. You can keep putting your prices up 10% at a time, when 7/8 out of ten still say yes hold it right there.
Then you go back to improving your sales skills, your level of service, your referral rate etc and add another 10%
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...........dyslexia rules K.O.
......or
.....K.O. rules dyslexia
Sorry guys, just got back from a few days holiday and am catching up on the posts.
And on the more recent posts.
"Politeness" is probably one of the most under-rated USPs we can bring to our business. For some it's instinctive whilst for others they may wonder what all the fuss is about and just want to be themselves.