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Title: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Mike 108 on November 04, 2008, 04:38:56 pm
Whenever I fill my tank up I notice lots of furry bits being washed around inside.

What effect (if any) will these bits have on the TDS reading and the effectiveness of any clean.

When I first started (with a clean tank) I used to drink the water coming out of the Di bottle - but now it tastes awful!

Mike
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2008, 04:41:59 pm
Whenever I fill my tank up I notice lots of furry bits being washed around inside.

What effect (if any) will these bits have on the TDS reading and the effectiveness of any clean.

When I first started (with a clean tank) I used to drink the water coming out of the Di bottle - but now it tastes awful!

Mike
is your tank getting direct sunlight ???????????
I would defo clean out your tank, mine has now mould no growth, and you should not drink this water as it can be fatal (I kid you not)
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Captain Scarlet on November 04, 2008, 04:42:51 pm
Your tank is getting too much sunlight! and DO NOT drink it!!
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: elite mike on November 04, 2008, 04:47:15 pm
i read a post a while back, that they put milton tablets in

now and again to steralise  the tank
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Chris Galloway on November 04, 2008, 04:56:35 pm
Your tank is getting too much sunlight! and DO NOT drink it!!

legionnaires disease is a possability, yup its fatal alright :P
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: ftp on November 04, 2008, 05:19:30 pm
Thought you could only get that if you inhaled the vapour?
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2008, 05:49:03 pm
Thought you could only get that if you inhaled the vapour?
does your face every come into contact with the water you use ??
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: ftp on November 04, 2008, 05:59:58 pm
 ??? eh
I think you'll find legionarres needs very pricise conditions to thrive. I used to kayak in the filthiest algae covered rivers etc and end up fully immersed in the cack i'm pretty sure you don't get it from drinking or bathing in it.
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2008, 06:04:02 pm
??? eh
I think you'll find legionarres needs very pricise conditions to thrive. I used to kayak in the filthiest algae covered rivers etc and end up fully immersed in the cack i'm pretty sure you don't get it from drinking or bathing in it.
you said vapour, and my point was vapour will be with the water. So rather than confuse everyone that will be reading this post, lets stop this now, it is possible to have this sporn/grow in your tank and it is/can be fatal, unless you know the full in's and outs I think we should quit are banter on this.
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: ftp on November 04, 2008, 06:06:42 pm
Sorry Ian i didn't know you were a proffessor of the subject. Why stop now? Maybe someone with some brains could enlighten us to the dangers?
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2008, 06:09:50 pm
Sorry Ian i didn't know you were a proffessor of the subject. Why stop now? Maybe someone with some brains could enlighten us to the dangers?
I am not proffessor at all, and I cant see the point of dragging this out, this is the reason.
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Captain Scarlet on November 04, 2008, 06:10:17 pm
Actually I would think that Isopropanol would be capable of killing most bacteria, so there might be another reason to put it on your tank!!! ha ha
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: ftp on November 04, 2008, 06:14:06 pm
www.hse.gov.uk/legionnaires/whatis.htm

Draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: cat9921 on November 04, 2008, 06:31:19 pm
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you should not drink this water as it can be fatal (I kid you not)
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RUBBISH I have been drinking it for years and I am fine  ;D


(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/cat9921/images-3.jpg)
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2008, 06:34:03 pm
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you should not drink this water as it can be fatal (I kid you not)
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RUBBISH I have been drinking it for years and I am fine  ;D





Your lucky, or maybe your odd lol  :P
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Pristine Clean on November 04, 2008, 06:59:36 pm
YOU CANT DRINK THE WATER?

Why not? - ro - man for example are domestic units for drinking water.... so why can e not drink the water....? Its been made pure? I thought that was a good thing.


I am very lucky i read this topic... I was gonna start drinking mine...later on.. as thought it would be better than tap water? 

Dave
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: ftp on November 04, 2008, 07:02:24 pm
Due to the algae in the tank.
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Pristine Clean on November 04, 2008, 07:13:49 pm
So,

If you have a clean tank is it safe to drink? Or not?
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Mike 108 on November 04, 2008, 07:20:22 pm
Regarding everyone's replies - and after reading the HSE leaflet - I have decided that I won't be drinking from the tank again! (Anyway, like I said, it now tastes blinking awful).

But what about the original question?

Are these bits (algae/mould) going to affect the TDS reading, or have a detrimental effect on any cleaning?

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2008, 07:22:14 pm
Regarding everyone's replies - and after reading the HSE leaflet - I have decided that I won't be drinking from the tank again! (Anyway, like I said, it now tastes blinking awful).

But what about the original question?

Are these bits (algae/mould) going to affect the TDS reading, or have a detrimental effect on any cleaning?

Thanks

Mike
Yes they can and will affect the tds at some time.
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: karygate on November 04, 2008, 07:22:48 pm
it is the coconut resin finisher thats the difference between drinking water ro,s and ours apparently, someone told me somewhere, never , or did i just dream it.
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: ftp on November 04, 2008, 08:06:15 pm
Although not a good idea to have too much algae in the tank i would think the strainer would stop a lot of it. Tends to grow on the tank walls then get washed off with all that sloshing about. Probably caused by working with the van doors open unless your holding tank is exposed to daylight too.
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Mike 108 on November 04, 2008, 08:18:05 pm
Yes - the tank is exposed to daylight. If I cover it, will that stop algae forming?
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on November 04, 2008, 08:20:12 pm
DONT DRINK THE WATER OR COULD END UP LIKE THIS!
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2008, 08:20:29 pm
Yes - the tank is exposed to daylight. If I cover it, will that stop algae forming?
it is the sun that does it, you need to block all sunlight m8, you look at a pond with no UV filter and it will be green (same thing)
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Wayne Thomas on November 04, 2008, 08:36:44 pm
If the water in the tank did have legionellas disease in it, just think of the people who'd be inhaling the water mist carried in the wind on a gusty day whilst you're cleaning windows in public places ;D
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Big Dave @ CWC on November 05, 2008, 12:12:20 am
Hi. i had algae in my tank a while ago, caused by using a clear tank uncovered and exposed to the sunlight,

i just drained the tank out, blasted the algae out with pressure washer, refilled with pure water, then put a capful of miltons sterilising fluid to every 300L of pure water. (only the first time you refill after blasting the tank out) 

miltons will send the tds reading skyhigh,

but it did not mess with the cleaning, water still dried clear. dont ask me why it just did. never had any probs after that.   but you're in doubt, test it on your windows first(or just leave in tank overnight then drain it again :o)

i've since added the miltons fluid every 6 months(just in case) ;D
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: djhaydn on November 05, 2008, 11:11:48 am
hi all
im not here to tell you what leganaires is , but what i do know through the fire service is :- if water is left in a stagnant state for a while the spores of this disease will grow, hence we have to flush all taps out once a month on station if they have not been used, i think this would be the same with someone who purifies there water and it is left sitting for a while, like it does in my 1000 ltr tank.
as for drinking i would never drink out of the tank, but i have drunk it straight out of the di outlet,
as for the algae. i have just had this problem, i have been leaving the shed door open slightly and the sun had got to it hence sending the tank slightly green and tds reading up.
i have since, pressure washed it out and refilled the tank, tds is spot on, i was a bit concerned as to where all the slim in the tank had come from, may be the ghostbusters had been around on halloween...lol.
anyway thats it from me.
Haydn
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: Captain Scarlet on November 05, 2008, 11:44:20 am
if you want to drink your water you have 2 options as I can see:

boil it either with a 12v kettle or with a water heater capable of 100c

or a uv filter ( what they use in space, kills all germs and bacteria ) there cheap and effective. you will need to connect it to the battery though, and prob need a voltage converter 240-12v
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: dd on November 05, 2008, 01:05:53 pm
Anyone tried painting their tank to block light penetration? Wondering about doing this but not sure which paint to use.
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: djhaydn on November 05, 2008, 04:29:54 pm
Anyone tried painting their tank to block light penetration? Wondering about doing this but not sure which paint to use.


why not go buy a metal shed from argos, a 1000 ltr ibc tank fit in perfect, keep the sun and fromt out,
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: djhaydn on November 05, 2008, 04:30:49 pm
sorry ment to say frost not fromt
Title: Re: WFP and 'mould growths' in water tank
Post by: dd on November 05, 2008, 06:07:51 pm
Anyone tried painting their tank to block light penetration? Wondering about doing this but not sure which paint to use.


why not go buy a metal shed from argos, a 1000 ltr ibc tank fit in perfect, keep the sun and fromt out,
Mean tank in van. Tank in garage is black, van tank is 10mm polypylene but still get small amount of green growth.