Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: collins82002 on November 04, 2008, 04:11:34 pm
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Hi All,
Don't wanna sound tight but Is there any free programs for keeping up with customers, schedules etc any thing similar to that george program i've heard about. If not whats the recommended programs and how much££.
Cheers
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To be honest for £50 george will save you lots of time and is worth the money there is a free trail for george and window cleaner pro as these seem to be the main 2 programs so it doesn't cost you anything to try them you can then see what is best for you. If you want something simple and basic but does about everthing you need then george is the cheaper option as i think wcp is about £130 plus..
paul
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I would reccomend www.windowcleanerpro.com (http://www.windowcleanerpro.com) yes it's £159 which includes the vat, it makes paper work and time spend minimal, the updates are fast and the guy listens to his customers and acts on the should there be something that needs adding.
Dont scrimp on one of the main things on your business, I did for too long, I tried George and a few others but wcp all the way for me.
Ian
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Hi
As Paul said, try them both and see which one you prefer.
Paul
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george is fine and cheaper!
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I agree with windowwashers 100%
WCP all the way for me..
however, never used George, but have used a few free ones... you get what you pay for!!
Dont think of the cost - think of the benefits its brings to you, you can cut costs elsewhere!
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what real benefits are there from george over WCP?
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what real benefits are there from george over WCP?
Hi
I think you meant that the other way round?
WCP is 3 times the price of George, the Internet Backup is 5 times the price and I haven't heard of anything it does that George doesn't.
But I haven't seen it so I can't really comment.
Paul
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what real benefits are there from george over WCP?
I think you meant that the other way round?
lets not get picky ;)
the only real plus for either of these programs to me will be customizing what i want my employees to see. but neither of them offer this. other than that george is just fine for me.
what real benifit is WCP for the money?
oh i do prefer the interface on WCP but it ain't worth the extra cash though ;)
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Hi
You can hide the Job prices in George...
Paul
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Hi
You can hide the Job prices in George...
Paul
thats the bit i need to keep ;) i'm not happy sending out my guys with all my customers details. all i want is address, amount, debt and additional notes if needed. I don't want them having the full contact details for obvious reasons ;)
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also hiding commercial prices and not domestic. if you had a simple cutomize window to tick what you want to actually print out it would be handy ;)
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Hi
You can hide the Job prices in George...
Paul
you can i wcp, I know what Steve means though, and I agree with him
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i'm not happy sending out my guys with all my customers details
you can also add notes and choose if u want to print them on worksheet or keep for personal office use i think.
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i'm not happy sending out my guys with all my customers details
you can also add notes and choose if u want to print them on worksheet or keep for personal office use i think.
correct you can
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Hi
You can hide the Job prices in George...
Paul
thats the bit i need to keep ;) i'm not happy sending out my guys with all my customers details. all i want is address, amount, debt and additional notes if needed. I don't want them having the full contact details for obvious reasons ;)
You would only need to request such a feature with WCP, the updates are that well introduced. Of course the harder ones to implement will take longer. Its probably not been requested before? so not introduced.
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Hi
You can hide the Job prices in George...
Paul
thats the bit i need to keep ;) i'm not happy sending out my guys with all my customers details. all i want is address, amount, debt and additional notes if needed. I don't want them having the full contact details for obvious reasons ;)
You would only need to request such a feature with WCP, the updates are that well introduced. Of course the harder ones to implement will take longer. Its probably not been requested before? so not introduced.
it has been requested ;) and will be done, and your right it takes time
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so can anyone actually list what WCP has over george? do they have spec sheets or anything??
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Hi All,
Don't wanna sound tight but Is there any free programs for keeping up with customers, schedules etc any thing similar to that george program i've heard about. If not whats the recommended programs and how much££.
Cheers
A lot of answers but you have asked for a free one and no-one has answered that bit.
Computers often come with a free suite of an office program (usually MS Works). If you know how to or are prepared to do a bit of learning, it is perfectly possible to keep a decent system with word processor, database, and spreadsheet. I've had a try at George and WCPro (though to be honest, I didn't persevere) and I found it easier to sort it all out with Works. It's not for everybody though.
The support for both George and WCPro is excellent. However, I would feel a bit uneasy that both programs seem to rely on their authors remaining in good health (and I hope they do for many years to come). At least with a more widely used program that you adapt, there is a much wider support network out there. In compiling my database, I went onto usenet a couple of times for formulas. So I suppose it's swings and roundabouts really. I accept that most people prefer software that is tailor made more specifically for their own profession and, at £50 and £159, the two mentioned are a steal IMO. Great value. But if you want free, don't expect a program that is W/C specific. Expect to have to do some work yourself which can mean having to do a bit more with the nuts and bolts of a supplied program.
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George all the way for most window cleaners.
George £50 and £12 per year for monthly backups
WCP £199 oops £159(very suspicious) and £5 per month for backups.
No brainer to me :D
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George saves us a lot of time each day messing on with paperwork - there are 2 of us.
Use that time to do another clean instead and George will pay for itself in no time.
Spruce
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Not free , but only £10
www.windowcleaningresources.co.uk/html/round_tracker_.html
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George all the way for most window cleaners.
George £50 and £12 per year for monthly backups
WCP £199 oops £159(very suspicious) and £5 per month for backups.
No brainer to me :D
I back mine up myself for £0.00 a year with wcp ;)
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Lets face it , as windowwashers said back it up yourself it's not hard! Why do people pay to back up data???
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George all the way for most window cleaners.
George £50 and £12 per year for monthly backups
WCP £199 oops £159(very suspicious) and £5 per month for backups.
No brainer to me :D
There is nothing suspicious about the price Bod, the distribution rights are not sorted yet.
Ian did say that in a earlier post. ::)
WCP is a top piece of soft ware that is worth every penny. Thats easy to use. I tryed George but cant really comment as i tryed it & could not get on with it so removed it.
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As you're on paul a few queries...
I'm a big george fan, and it's important to my business. Cost isn't an issue, I would rather pay more and get the upgrades. I worry that you will clear off one day and stop supporting it because it no longer provides an income stream.Some of your comments like, i need to take a week off work to do it, worry me. I would rather you were more expensive but on the case.
This latest upgrade, is it safe? should I try it on another computer first?
Is there any way I can get rid of completed jobs that clutter my administration?
Cheers Clive
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i have been using wcp now for 8 weeks, im getting round all my work quicker, im gathering more and more information from my customers, ie names and numbers and not loosing them like i used to on scrap bits of paper.
i did try george but i just didnt get on with it, i tired wcp and within a week i had bought it, it came out just at the right time for me as my round was getting to big and i was getting everywhere...or no where seems to be the case.
i can not reccomend wcp any more, its the best bit of kit ive bought for window cleaning ever...
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Hi all,
Thanks for the huge response. I'll have a look at all programs available to me and take it from there.
Cheers everyone. Had my first W/C the weekend two huge offices 11+ windows each inside and out. harder than i thought.
Once again as a newbie W/C CHEERS. ;D ;D
Chris
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Not free , but only £10
www.windowcleaningresources.co.uk/html/round_tracker_.html
HAS ONYONE TRIED THIS PROGRAM?? IF SO WHATS IT LIKE??
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i use and its spot on for what i need, its just an excell sheet but its all there for you, he does a free verson too, and has just brought out another version thats even better that i have been using for a month or so, think its priced at £25 cant answer any more questions just now cause i am going to bed but worth looking at, but happy to answer any questions on it tomorrow
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Another happy user of WCP here. I've been finding it very intuitive to use with a nice clean interface that is easy to work your way around. Haven't used George so can't compare though.
The only issue I have with WCP is that if you have different streets on your round you can't sort by street name then house number which is currently giving me some grief. All else is good though!