Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kinder clean on November 01, 2008, 07:55:31 pm
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I cleaned a lounge carpet this morning, std polyprop with latex/jute backing.
Just had a phone call from the lady, she says she is concernced that the carpet has stretched, looks baggy and has air pockets in middle, I finished the clean about 3 1/2 hours ago, it looked fine when I left, I asked her if the carpet was still damp and she said it was.
I told her not to worry that it will go back when its dried and its only when they go the other way and shrink that you have to worry !!! ::) - am I right, or should I change my telephone numbers? ;)
I told her to let it dry out and ring me tomorrow if the problem is still there.
Anyone ever had this problem? so much for relaxing tonight.
Paul
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happens all the time and scares the poop out of us every time :o :o they always go back.
chill out, have a beer, watch X factor!!
it'll all be OK tomorrow
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Cheers Mike,
Unfortunately I'm allergic to beer. :( I'll go and watch james Bond instead.
P.S think I've found a used cimex Mike, going to look Monday, just not sure weather its set up for encap CC i.e shampoo feed and what base plate/ fittings it has.
Paul
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Allergic to Beer :o :o :o bloody hell couldn't deal with that. As Mike says will settle down ok. It sometimes takes a couple of days so don't panic.
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most cimexs are set up for shampooing. but do you really need one? ;)
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Yes Mike, I really want one!! I think I can make it pay, I have a dream. ;)
Obviously for commercial, not domestic.
I can't think of another system that offers so many unique selling points and the ability to demo in 5 mins is another big plus.
After reading a lot of stuff on tinternet I have my doubts about that chem you experimented with (the one you cut open the vac bag) apparently there are a lot of so called crystalising shampoo's that appear to clean well, but fail to encapsulate, found some good sites, I will drop Geoff an e-mail it makes for interesting reading.
Paul
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1- 2 days for full relaxation of carpeting it happens especially on older carpets but don't worry.
BTW I wasn't impressed with Quantum of Solace, I went yesterday to go and see it with my son, wish I'd have gone to see High Schol Musical 3 with my daughter.
Shaun
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Paul
Had the same thing this week - 3 ridges in the carpet, 2nd one in as many months.
Back to normal the next day, as the guys said don't worry.
Steve
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I did a carpet in my first year of trading, it was a dining hall of an officers mess, approx 20m x 20m !!
As I was nearing the end of the clean I could see the areas that I had done first bubbling up to a height of about 6" off the ground, I was sh!tting myself.
Just then the Mess Manager came in and asked if that was normal, I bullsh!tted and explained that it was air trapped under the carpet and it would settle down when dry, he walked away happy and it did just that...............luckily!
We did all the other carpets in the mess, bedrooms, conference rooms, corridors, all exactly the same carpet but the dining room was the only one that bubbled. ???
Does anyone understand what causes it?
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used to do a indian restaurant, within hours of leaving a tunnel appeared right accross the room (about 30ft) and it was 6 inches high, custy went mad called me back in, i explained and the next day problem was gone, it became a standing joke for the next few yearswhen the carpet was cleaned.
regards
Dave
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It's caused by expansion of the backing, due to heat or moisture.
Widely believed to be primarily Latex glue. You will reach a point where
you will know on sight if it is likely to occur, and can fore warn the customer,
that way it doesn't sound like an excuse.
Usually you can see where the ripples are correspond to where overlap strokes
cause extra dampening.
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Got one now where it hasnt gone back down..... and its been left to settle - like job done 3 months ago and custy just rang last week.
Went and had a look cause this is the first for me in 18 years.
Told her to get a carpet fitter in and I will pay.
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I find its nylon tufted with polyprop secondary backs that do it about 4yrs or older.Looks like the Himalayas but most settle down, others need trimming when totally dry. Apparently as said its the latex glue swelling with heat and moisture.
Mike
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its sometimes caused by overwetting which can cause de-lamination of the glued backing causing the top layer of backing to seperate, can normally be stretched back, sometimes its just where furniture has been dragged around on a poorly fitted carpet!
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russell, how do you work out that water is going to 'melt' the glue backing?
::)
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you don't work it out, you just dont use too much water, simple!!
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Joe did the fitter get the carpet sorted ???
Just be good to know if it does happen and to reasure ourselves :)
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Hi Clinton
Went to see it last Fri pm, she not got back to me yet. Will let you know.
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Further to recent post on this topic here is one that happened to me last month - all settled down the next day.
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You can cause this by dragging sofas and chairs across the carpet, even on sliders. Always lift them.
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I had been dragging the furniture around on gliders, will have to remember that, although I don't think I could lift some of the furniture on my own!! Must eat more spinach.
P.S. Never heard back from the lady so it must have settled down, unless of course she tripped over the carpet banged her head on the wall and landed face down in the fish tank.......doh, now I'm worrying again. ::)
Paul ;)
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give her a call paul, it shows you care.
and its piece of mind for you.
thats if it has gone down.
derek
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Can also be caused by the customer having their heating too high on!!
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Sorry again Russell but posting wrong info is no use to anyone. Delamination in a tufted carpet CANNOT be rectified by stretching. In fact stretching can make it make it worse depending on where it has delaminated. When a carpet is tensioned by a carpet fitter using a knee kicker, it is the secondary backing that is being tightened up. When a carpet delaminates, the primary backing separates from the secondary backing, so no amount of attempted stretching is going to alter that bubble of primary backing. Only a bubble in the secondary backing can sometimes (not always) be improved by attempted stretching, but that is not delamination.
Dave.
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I was going to post the same reply Dave - but I didn't want to be accused of being an old know-it-all again.
I see that Russell is now listed as a guest rather than a member. ???
Steve
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I see that Russell is now listed as a guest rather than a member. ???
Steve
Russell Morgan aka Paul M_ss
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is he anything to do with mossad?
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what the israeli intelligence agency? do you think they have problems with getting their carpets clean? :P
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Steve,
I dont mind being accused of that, especially by anyone that thinks they know it all but obviously dont. Like most people on these boards, we dont know it all, and keep stum when we dont know the answer to something. I think its wrong for someone to state in a positive manner, mis information, that could lead to a lesser experieced CC taking on board, as true.
Dave.
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Very true Dave.
I would be surprised and a bit dissapointed if Russell Morgan was Paul Moss as you and I both know him and I consider him to be a mate of mine.
Steve
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Steve,
I echo your remarks, Pauls a great guy and far too intelligent.
Dave.
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what the israeli intelligence agency? do you think they have problems with getting their carpets clean? :P
yes getting the blood stains out. they keep wicking back
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what the israeli intelligence agency? do you think they have problems with getting their carpets clean? :P
yes getting the blood stains out. they keep wicking back
Should consider putting some kind of hard floor down instead. lol
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No idea Clinton.
Seemed like a genuine bloke - posted a lot of replies in a relatively short space of time and seemed to be a valuable member of the forum.
Then suddenly got a bit tetchy when myself and Dave tried to correct him on a couple of posts and now he doesn't seem to be a member anymore - I don't know where the link to Paul Moss has come from.
Steve
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the person who suggested that it was paul moss has been registered for only 3 weeks here........
who is professional carpet care?