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Title: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: richywilts on October 31, 2008, 03:37:50 pm
this is my first quote so i want to go in at right price, the quote is for inside and outside. could you please giv your honest opinions iv not been inside yet so dont know wat i have to work around.im using wfp outside and trad inside.

cheers richy

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Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: AJ on October 31, 2008, 04:08:38 pm
i would say about 50p a pane outside. £3.00 per section. possibly could get more, but you want to land it.
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: seandyer2003 on October 31, 2008, 04:11:08 pm
i would say about 50p a pane outside. £3.00 per section. possibly could get more, but you want to land it.

then double it for inside i reckon if its not too difficult...
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: lovewindows on October 31, 2008, 04:14:24 pm
£500 for a one off £400 / £350 if it's a regular clean, you do need to check inside though ie them front entrance windows !
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: Oakley Windows on October 31, 2008, 04:15:28 pm
Richy, I like your website, I think its the best Ive seen for a shiner.

Well done.


Matt
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on October 31, 2008, 04:38:08 pm
APPROX 4HRS WORK FOR TWO I WOULD CHARGE AROUND £435
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: MJH on October 31, 2008, 04:54:11 pm
£350 very maximum for that, you can fly around that wfp, and internally it will be straightforward!!

If you want it be realistic one man approx 5 hours.
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: *frank cannon on October 31, 2008, 05:19:31 pm
what windows are on the back and the other side??
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: WCE on October 31, 2008, 05:54:01 pm
how regular? if monthly you can easily turn a good profit going in at £180, the insides will be a doddle after the first clean. just go early so people in the offices don't see you doing the insides too fast ;D, quick scrim and on to the next inside, check for finger marks and thats it. you will do it all, one man in about 2 1/2 to 3 hrs, obviously the access inside could change all that.
I would have to agree, some of the prices quoted on here are absolute rubbish
APPROX 4HRS WORK FOR TWO I WOULD CHARGE AROUND £435
You are too slow - need to speed up or else you WILL get undercut big time
£500 for a one off £400 / £350 if it's a regular clean, you do need to check inside though ie them front entrance windows !
Way too much - sorry!
i would say about 50p a pane outside. £3.00 per section. possibly could get more, but you want to land it.
T%hats closer but these prices are way too much - No window cleaner will get a lot of work charging this amount. Seriously do yourself a favour and listen to the  £180- £220 sort of price and you will be on the right tracks. The ones who are quoting those prices don't have much commercial work and it shows! If they did they would know those prices are OTT! Out of the ones I have quoted as examples AJ is the most realistic after YWCS  ;) 
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: Oakley Windows on October 31, 2008, 06:10:17 pm
I wouldnt want to give an inside price as such as you'd need to look inside first to get an idea of what accessibility is like, you'd no doubt want to write in a clause explaining that inside windows which had their access blocked wouldnt be done.

You'd spend more time moving furniture or climbing over desks if the layout means you cant get directly to the windows.

If I priced it assuming the sides are the same as the front Id go in at £165.00 for the outside and the  same inside.

£330.00 in and out.

Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: ftp on October 31, 2008, 06:16:42 pm
Which brings the question - how much do you guys expect to earn in a day? Because i find some of these prices rather shocking. But then i don't do a lot of commercial.
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: richywilts on October 31, 2008, 06:18:15 pm
its an engineering college so itl be classrooms etc inside and some offices id expect, cheers matt im quite pleased with the website but i need to change the text as the website designer wrote a lot of it and it sounds bit unprofessional.thanks for the advice guys.
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: alanwilson on October 31, 2008, 06:24:13 pm
I would be looking at £150 insides and about £65/£75 outsides.

£225 asking price, would settle for £200 - these are realistic prices for the Glasgow area and we do quite a bit of commercial.
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: trike on October 31, 2008, 06:27:40 pm
i will agree with above,over 400 prices and over, two steep for my area,great if you can get it
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: Tosh on October 31, 2008, 06:28:55 pm
I think you ought to price what the job is worth to you.  If you need the work, go cheap; you'll be to cut some corners to make it profitable if need be, and if you don't need/want the work go high.

We normally lose out - I'm sure it's just on price - when it comes to quoting for stuff where other window cleaners are asked to quote too; and believe me, we try our best to sell ourselves; I even ask Wor Lass to stick a bit of 'slap' on!  ;D

It looks a straightforward job though, especially if you're van-mounted (it'd be to big for me and my backpack); no exterior access issues.  

Inside could be another matter though; climbing over desks and stuff, but they're simple one-pane windows to squeegy.

Personally, I'd err on the side of 'cheap' rather than 'expensive', 'cos there'll be other window cleaners who're asked to quote, who'll go in cheap, and then do a 'cheap job'; but everyone will be happy.  The company gets it's windows cleaned, (they won't be looking for perfection) and the window cleaner will be able to turn-over a good amount too; with only one-point-of-contact for payment; though you'll probably have to wait a month (at least) to get paid.

I wouldn't go lower than £200 though.



Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: *frank cannon on October 31, 2008, 06:29:07 pm
240 all in don,t forget the taxman wants a slice of that.  northern england price
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on October 31, 2008, 06:33:02 pm
I would have said 200 to 250 for in and out, a bit more if you are dealing right with owner. If your subbing for a contracter then you may have to do I for less. I reckon between 4-5 hours in total.

Simon.
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: Oakley Windows on October 31, 2008, 06:33:42 pm
Richy, how did they find you.

Reason I ask is you say youve not priced something like this before, so did they find you t'internet and e-mail you?
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: richywilts on October 31, 2008, 06:42:40 pm
i was bored the other day n just phoned up n got thru to the fella who is in charge of the place
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: the clean team on October 31, 2008, 06:51:39 pm
2 men could do that in 2 hours no problems. 4hours whats that all about. you could price that at £150 and stil make a good wage. theres 60 windows on that front side plus the middle .maybe 15 seconds per window .you will bash that off in no time
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: MNWC on October 31, 2008, 07:09:27 pm
id say 150 for in and out ....half a days work if you start early
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: the clean team on October 31, 2008, 07:19:51 pm
I hope you’re not this petty with your customers  ;)
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on October 31, 2008, 07:22:35 pm
I hope you’re not this petty with your customers  ;)
Im not petty just realistic, if you done windows that quick which im not douting you can,you will not be able to gaurantee they will come up perfect,As you should no if you have been using wfp that long !
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: the clean team on October 31, 2008, 07:23:54 pm
Cleanglass Window Cleaning have been operating since 2002,   ????

covering the South East and London on a daily basis
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on October 31, 2008, 07:25:27 pm
Cleanglass Window Cleaning have been operating since 2002,   ????

covering the South East and London on a daily basis

was working for a very large company with 6 vans grossing over a million a year!
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: alanwilson on October 31, 2008, 07:25:51 pm
wow you've got 4 vans!

YOU'RE MY HERO
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: Tosh on October 31, 2008, 07:27:02 pm
i was bored the other day n just phoned up n got thru to the fella who is in charge of the place

Was this inspired by one of my posts?  ;D
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on October 31, 2008, 07:42:29 pm
As i said before on here the boss was tight!!!
ps MR Moderator sorry for the bad language
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on October 31, 2008, 08:12:33 pm
When you price a job like this with a fair few windows it can look daunting , but you can crash it out in no time, i think it would take 4 to 5 hours max (doing a real good job), so even if you charged as litlle as £150 you still would be on a good earner for the day if you go and do another couple of little jobs. Also you will definately get the job
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: Busby on October 31, 2008, 09:20:29 pm

I would charge guessing by the picture you have shown, between £200 - £240

backed up with a risk assessment, method statement & insurance details if your successfull

 ;)
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 01, 2008, 03:23:38 am
this is my first quote so i want to go in at right price, the quote is for inside and outside. could you please giv your honest opinions iv not been inside yet so dont know wat i have to work around.im using wfp outside and trad inside.

cheers richy

Assuming that you have shown all the windows:  Depends what you want as an hourly rate really, what obstructions are on the inside, and how accessible the inside reception area windows are.  On maintenance cleans, the outside could be done comfortably in one and a half hours (though probably a fair bit less).  Allowing for some obstructions and awkwardness inside, I think half a day (maybe a longish half day) for a lone operator would be a fair time allowance.  I do one of similar style where there are about two and a half times the external windows.  Once I got the first two cleans out of the way, I whip around the outsides in about two and a quarter hours.  I've never really timed the insides because I have to do it over several visits when evening cleaning staff are there.  It's no problem because it's very local to me and inside is only four times a year.  No high reception area on mine though.
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: karygate on November 01, 2008, 08:13:02 am
work out a price per window , then you will not lose out . better getting a slightly lower price every month than losing it to someone else. would still be more than the domestic for that day and less hassle.
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: cat9921 on November 01, 2008, 08:22:33 am
work out a price per window , then you will not lose out . better getting a slightly lower price every month than losing it to someone else. would still be more than the domestic for that day and less hassle.

A newbe like yourself should not give advice, Your not even a clean up god yet  ;D





Good Advice by the way
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: STEVE-UK on November 01, 2008, 08:41:36 am
i would put a quote in for £190 1st clean in and out,£140 monthly,i dont think it will take any longer than a mornings work for 1 person
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: jsm on November 01, 2008, 04:33:33 pm
i would put a quote in for £190 1st clean in and out,£140 monthly,i dont think it will take any longer than a mornings work for 1 person

I agree with  the above , some of you must be like snails lol id wip round that no time , by all mwans put a quote in for £400 - ill come in with one alot lower haha - inside id do that in under a hour half and thats with chatting up the birds lol
Title: Re: HOW MUCH FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 01, 2008, 04:59:55 pm
this is my first quote so i want to go in at right price, the quote is for inside and outside. could you please giv your honest opinions iv not been inside yet so dont know wat i have to work around.im using wfp outside and trad inside.

cheers richy

Assuming that you have shown all the windows:  Depends what you want as an hourly rate really, what obstructions are on the inside, and how accessible the inside reception area windows are.  On maintenance cleans, the outside could be done comfortably in one and a half hours (though probably a fair bit less).  Allowing for some obstructions and awkwardness inside, I think half a day (maybe a longish half day) for a lone operator would be a fair time allowance.  I do one of similar style where there are about two and a half times the external windows.  Once I got the first two cleans out of the way, I whip around the outsides in about two and a quarter hours.  I've never really timed the insides because I have to do it over several visits when evening cleaning staff are there.  It's no problem because it's very local to me and inside is only four times a year.  No high reception area on mine though.

Funnily enough, I've just been doing the job mentioned in the above post.  I really didn't fancy hanging around in that cold rain and got it done in about one and three quarter hours (outside).  There are about two and a half times the windows as on the picture at the top of the thread.  OK I admit it.  The frames didn't get a look in this time but, as a monthly external clean, there's no need to do them every time anyway.