Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: RO-Sheen on October 30, 2008, 04:35:06 pm
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Well, I might as well - Can't get sections 3 and 4 apart!! :-[ I rang up Lovely Sam from Gardiners today to see if she had any ideas and she suggested holding the pole perpendicular to me ie horizontal and twisting section 4 clockwise (FYI - if it was sections 1 and 2 you would turn 2 ANTI-clockwise). After 20 minutes of this, I took it home and left it in my living room to warm up (Sam said the reason it jammed is a combination of the section being wet and cold). Just tried it again and still not budging. She then suggested lightly warming it with a hairdryer and if that doesnt work try WD40!
Anyone got anymore suggestions that doesnt involve a hacksaw?
By the way - I am very happy with the SL2 but have just been lazy recently with spraying it with PTFE!
Thanks in advance
Adie
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Anyone got anymore suggestions that doesnt involve a hacksaw?
Can't you get a mate and do a bit of 'tug-of-war' maybe?
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Yeah, I will wait for one of my mates to get home from work and try that!
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You have to twist it clockwise , look at the pattern of the carbon, that should give you a clue.
You just have to be brave and twist, it has happened to me but only took seconds when i got brave.
You need slightly damp hands and 2 people, grip really firm and twist
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Well, I might as well - Can't get sections 3 and 4 apart!! :-[ I rang up Lovely Sam from Gardiners today to see if she had any ideas and she suggested holding the pole perpendicular to me ie horizontal and twisting section 4 clockwise (FYI - if it was sections 1 and 2 you would turn 2 ANTI-clockwise). After 20 minutes of this, I took it home and left it in my living room to warm up (Sam said the reason it jammed is a combination of the section being wet and cold). Just tried it again and still not budging. She then suggested lightly warming it with a hairdryer and if that doesnt work try WD40!
Anyone got anymore suggestions that doesnt involve a hacksaw?
By the way - I am very happy with the SL2 but have just been lazy recently with spraying it with PTFE!
Thanks in advance
Adie
I had this problem - with the same two sections funnily enough. I just couldn't separate them until I did the following. Squirt plenty of WD40 into the crack. Do this a number of times over a few hours. Then do the twisting with someone else twisting the other section the opposite way. As you say, it's got to be a clockwise movement. My friend and I found that the way to get the best grip was to have the pole sections in front of us rather than the pole ends being in front of us (hope that makes sense. It needs to be two people with a very strong grips. If you let that WD40 do its work and soak in well over a few hours and if you both have a strong grip, it will come apart. Not for the faint hearted but it can be done. I ended up driving 15 miles at the end of the day with the two sections stuck together strapped on my roof bars because they were too long to fit in the van.
I only did it once. Plenty of PTFE spray thereafter and, on bigger jobs, occasional separation and respraying.
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Well, I might as well - Can't get sections 3 and 4 apart!! :-[ I rang up Lovely Sam from Gardiners today to see if she had any ideas and she suggested holding the pole perpendicular to me ie horizontal and twisting section 4 clockwise (FYI - if it was sections 1 and 2 you would turn 2 ANTI-clockwise). After 20 minutes of this, I took it home and left it in my living room to warm up (Sam said the reason it jammed is a combination of the section being wet and cold). Just tried it again and still not budging. She then suggested lightly warming it with a hairdryer and if that doesnt work try WD40!
Anyone got anymore suggestions that doesnt involve a hacksaw?
By the way - I am very happy with the SL2 but have just been lazy recently with spraying it with PTFE!
Thanks in advance
Adie
I had this problem - with the same two sections funnily enough. I just couldn't separate them until I did the following. Squirt plenty of WD40 into the crack. Do this a number of times over a few hours. Then do the twisting with someone else twisting the other section the opposite way. As you say, it's got to be a clockwise movement. My friend and I found that the way to get the best grip was to have the pole sections in front of us rather than the pole ends being in front of us (hope that makes sense. It needs to be two people with a very strong grips. If you let that WD40 do its work and soak in well over a few hours and if you both have a strong grip, it will come apart. Not for the faint hearted but it can be done. I ended up driving 15 miles at the end of the day with the two sections stuck together strapped on my roof bars because they were too long to fit in the van.
I only did it once. Plenty of PTFE spray thereafter and, on bigger jobs, occasional separation and respraying.
Forgot to say that the twisting is more important than the pulling because once you can loosen it a bit with a twist, it will come apart anyway.
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I've had this with my fishing pole with two mates on one end and me on the other. It worked.
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Thanks, I have been twisting it clockwise but on my own. My hands are now red and sore!! Will wait for mate to get home to help. Bludy hairdrer just blew up!!! AAARRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Shiner - Will try your method! Luckily when it happened I was only 1 street away so I could walk home with it.
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two men turning and pulling the pole in opposite directions with the pole just slightly damp
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Thanks, I have been twisting it clockwise but on my own. My hands are now red and sore!! Will wait for mate to get home to help. Bludy hairdrer just blew up!!! AAARRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Shiner - Will try your method! Luckily when it happened I was only 1 street away so I could walk home with it.
Most definitely a two man job with the sections across you both rather than just holding the ends. The job it happened on was a whole weekend job (my largest to date). It happened on the first day. I ended up leaving the sections inside the building for the first night in the forlorn hope that I might feel stronger the next day :) .
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Wear rubber gloves you don't need to grip so hard then. If you squeeze like the hulk then you may start to crush the pole. If you try and pull apart and it's not dead straight it might end in tears. ;)
Rubber gloves and twist clockwise.
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if you do it on your own, your going to feel like your ripping your finger nails off!!
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Marrigolds or freezer gloves - done it a few times. When you do get it apart put a couple of turns of insulation tape around the pole to stop it going in too far next time you use it. Oh and use ptfe spray. I always carry a pair in the van now just in case.
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GOT IT!!!!
After lots of swearing and cursing, twisting, pulling, oiling and a bit more swearing myself and the wife put rubber gloves on and it came off so easily!!! Weird though, because when I was trying to do it barehanded I had a good grip (ie my hands weren't sliding around at all) and it wasn't budging but as soon as we tried it with rubber gloves on it just popped off!
As a result the SL2 is not for sale and I am back in love with it again! ;D
Thanks everyone for your input, Even had a phonecall from an old friend in N Ireland with help!
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try putting some hot water on it
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GOT IT!!!!
After lots of swearing and cursing, twisting, pulling, oiling and a bit more swearing myself and the wife put rubber gloves on and it came off so easily!!! Weird though, because when I was trying to do it barehanded I had a good grip (ie my hands weren't sliding around at all) and it wasn't budging but as soon as we tried it with rubber gloves on it just popped off!
As a result the SL2 is not for sale and I am back in love with it again! ;D
Thanks everyone for your input, Even had a phonecall from an old friend in N Ireland with help!
I wonder if you squeeze to hard it might distort the pole into a very slight oval shape locking it even tighter?
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Can you not put a few turns of 'black nasty' (gaffer tape) on the female ends, just where the male part ends, to make a STOP; so the poles can't compress together?
I did this on my fishing pole, on all the female ends, apart from one which I missed, and the only slight problem I had from 'compression', was on the end I never gaffer taped.
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I've also had sections 2 and 3 'wedge together, Carla (my partner) was a little too heavy handed!
If you grip the sections too close to where they have binded, the force needed to twist them apart also compresses the pole sections and makes it even harder to twist apart.
Take the grip so that your hands are further apart (much as they will be once you have two people attempting to twist them apart and you will be surprised how easily the sections separate!!
Ian
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Ian, would the 'gaffer tape trick', stop the SL2 poles from compressing together?
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Well, I might as well - Can't get sections 3 and 4 apart!! :-[ I rang up Lovely Sam from Gardiners today to see if she had any ideas and she suggested holding the pole perpendicular to me ie horizontal and twisting section 4 clockwise (FYI - if it was sections 1 and 2 you would turn 2 ANTI-clockwise). After 20 minutes of this, I took it home and left it in my living room to warm up (Sam said the reason it jammed is a combination of the section being wet and cold). Just tried it again and still not budging. She then suggested lightly warming it with a hairdryer and if that doesnt work try WD40!
Anyone got anymore suggestions that doesnt involve a hacksaw?
By the way - I am very happy with the SL2 but have just been lazy recently with spraying it with PTFE!
Thanks in advance
Adie
this has happened to me, take the pole to your nearest fishing tackle shop, its a three man job to free it. one at each end and one in the middle who makes a circle with both hands around the pole and then wobbles it while the two on the ends pull. this always works
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wrap a few turns of electricians tape just below the joined sections to prevent them compressing too tightly together. Remember to spray regularly with PTFE spray to stop sections wedging together during prolonged use or heavy handed assembly. Spray some expanding foam in the male sections and taper the foam that protrudes to fit the female sections to use as a guide and to give some extra strength to the pole for dismantling.