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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jasonl on October 27, 2008, 07:49:15 pm

Title: key word spying
Post by: jasonl on October 27, 2008, 07:49:15 pm
Had a meeting today with the company who are doing my  SEO  on my new site ...
www.qualconminimix.co.uk  he showed me how he uses the site key word spy .com   to see what words  competitors are using in order to optimize their sites , in many cases  ... not many , he then   chooses better/more / the same words in order that I beat them in the rankings . I was then shown how important it is to block key word spy from spying on my site . It is all interesting stuff.
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: John Kelly on October 27, 2008, 07:55:12 pm
Your not thinking of putting your non-payers into that concrete are you Jason?
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: Mike Osbourne on October 27, 2008, 08:01:53 pm
The Consultants motto.

First, create a new problem, then offer up an expensive solution.
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on October 27, 2008, 08:02:21 pm
Nice clear site best I've seen for a long time, will you be on the dragons den?

Shaun
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: John Kelly on October 27, 2008, 08:04:30 pm
Aye as a Dragon. Minted ;D
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: Ian Gourlay on October 28, 2008, 12:00:07 am
Yet another way to extract money from us.
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: dan roberts on October 28, 2008, 12:55:43 am
move? How does this look?
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: garry22 on October 28, 2008, 03:57:49 pm
Jason,

Can I ask you a couple of things?

Have you worked with these people before?

Do you have a good relationship with them?

They are not going to charge you for blocking just one robot are they?

Garry
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: Mike Osbourne on October 28, 2008, 05:11:59 pm
I think it's more a Client ego stroking exercise than anything else.

 
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: jasonl on October 28, 2008, 07:55:35 pm
What is happening  is that they are using the key word spy to see what competitors use to optimize, then copy it , and enhance it , this is part of the optimization, a small part, and part of the overall fee  I am paying.
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: derek west on October 28, 2008, 08:19:58 pm
surely, what goes around comes around.
whats stopping someone spying back.
just a thought.
derek
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: Mike Osbourne on October 28, 2008, 08:25:18 pm
I'm gonna buy some SEO spy software and a suit! ;D
Title: Re: key word spying
Post by: garry22 on October 29, 2008, 02:32:17 pm
Jason,

When I asked you the things above it was for this reason. Unfortunately, us carpet cleaners are looked upon as a bunch of "thickos", especially by technical types. I thought someone might have been giving you a bit of old flannel regarding keyword research.

Keyword Spy is just one of a whole host of such programmes. To block just that one seems pointless. To actually block it you just add a line of code to a file (on your server) called a robots.txt file. It's a one minute job. The bots take their instructions on what (or what not) to crawl from this file.

I was concerned that they may charge you a lot of money for doing that fairly simple job.

Knowing the other peoples' keywords is no big deal unless you will be doing pay per click when it might come in handy. For a normal site, other peoples' keywords are irrelevant.

The internet is SEARCH DRIVEN.

The important things are the terms that people are already searching for. This is why some people get conned when SEO firms offer to get them on Google's front page for a certain term. They might even be at number one. The trouble is that it could be something that no one else ever searches for!

Speaking hypothetically, if I was looking to compete with your site, I would not give a monkey's about your keywords. I would be looking at number of searches for key phrases, the structure of your site and the number and quality of your backlinks.

Your concrete site does need some attention. The title could be a bit more engine friendly and you need a description meta tag for starters. You are going to need incoming links as well. I'm sure your SEO firm will sort all this for you.

Sorry for the long post, I just get suspicious IF I suspect techies try to blind us carpet cleaners with science. I'm sure you'll be fine.

Garry