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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 04:20:07 pm

Title: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 04:20:07 pm
me and 'cleanglass' done this job for 4 years with the old ionics 60ft pole 12kgs,

the guy we worked for lost the contract we heard rumours of the new quote anyone want to guess?

the pics are taken from the net, its the front and 2 sides, the side not in the picture is basically the same but has an extra 1st floor set of windows

the far end of the building is fully extended 60ft in the palm of the hand
all green panels included
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: Alex Wingrove on October 25, 2008, 04:24:23 pm
i know that hotel
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 04:26:03 pm
its the thistle hotel brighton alex
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 04:44:54 pm
Steve i would seriously remove those pics as youll open yourself to lots of people wanting to quote and not just from Brighton even id travel to do it.

Chris
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 04:51:59 pm
Chris-  another firm has quoted and already got the job, the price i heard rumours of i wouldnt bother mate.

take a guess!

you would defo need the superlite for this one!

Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 05:11:02 pm
£1400
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: Oakley Windows on October 25, 2008, 05:14:19 pm
£1,150.00
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: Tosh on October 25, 2008, 05:14:32 pm
£500?  If it's been quoted for a monthly clean, only certain windows will get cleaned monthly, and the rest will be done twice-a-year; though they'll still charge £500.

I bet!
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 05:21:40 pm
its done monthly external

tosh is closest at the mo
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: ftp on October 25, 2008, 05:22:57 pm
I'm guessing the quote was low so i expect they are doing it for a days wages. Maybe as low as £200?
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 05:23:13 pm
No wonder they go it
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 05:27:10 pm
the rumours are £300 external monthly
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: Oakley Windows on October 25, 2008, 05:29:50 pm
No wonder they go it

yea!
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: NWH on October 25, 2008, 05:35:38 pm
Drove past there a month ago and they were rot.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 05:35:42 pm
Well if they do a good job which i doubt they will for that price theyll hold onto it for as long as they want, glad im not in Brighton with this company working there as theyll be ruining commercial work with those prices as not so long ago youd have to of absailed down,
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 05:36:27 pm
Drove past there a month ago and they were rot.

And so is the Brighton centre just up the road
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 05:39:11 pm
yes chris, the brighton is just up the road.

the firm that does it advertises in your area too, they come 1st in yell.com,
there not a one man band they have a few new vans running
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: ronnie paton on October 25, 2008, 05:40:08 pm
i would do around £650 this is a rough guess i think after a couple of cleans two people one day would be about right
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: ftp on October 25, 2008, 05:41:10 pm
Not being funny here but i reckon i could do that in a day so £300 a day doesn't sound bad to me. Or are the access problems too difficult for a sole trader? I don't know the place mind, so it's just an observation.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 05:46:14 pm
Good luck to them as ive seen these lads doing work and dont seem to have much of a clue, yer it might take a day but why price this on a days work just because of wfp a few years back it would of taken a couple so why spend money on system then reduce price.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 05:46:21 pm
ronnies spot on ,it took 2 of us from 9am - 2 pm and that would do 1000 litres

ftp, theres no access probs at all.  if we had a superlite then we would definalty of had it done quicker,the guys doing it now use an ergolite 60
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: peter holley on October 25, 2008, 05:48:25 pm
the rumours are £300 external monthly

complete madness :o
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 05:49:50 pm
Drove past there a month ago and they were rot.

this job is right on the beach and can be hanging in just a day!
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: ftp on October 25, 2008, 05:51:26 pm
Clearly some don’t have a clue, over a £1,000 for that for a regular clean.

But if you are going to take all week, then that would explain you’re pricing.

 ;D ;D

£1000 for a days work? Even two guys is a tad expensive i would imagine the days of those prices are quickly coming to an end.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 05:58:05 pm
So you price at about 40p a pane.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 06:00:23 pm
Good luck to them as ive seen these lads doing work and dont seem to have much of a clue, yer it might take a day but why price this on a days work just because of wfp a few years back it would of taken a couple so why spend money on system then reduce price.



LOL,

1:  Because you are more likely to get the job.

2:  Innovation (wfp) means you are able to lower prices.

3:  You understand the pricing structure in your industry.

List goes on, try using you’re the stuff between your ears, that will separate you from the crowd.





Sorrry Ewan your opinion doesnt mean much to me
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: Oakley Windows on October 25, 2008, 06:04:53 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: Oakley Windows on October 25, 2008, 06:12:50 pm
Ewan do you ever think that sometimes you're the sensitive emotional one?

If you re-read your last post I think you'll find it loaded with emotion (mostly negative, seemingly anger)
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 06:15:30 pm
Good luck to them as ive seen these lads doing work and dont seem to have much of a clue, yer it might take a day but why price this on a days work just because of wfp a few years back it would of taken a couple so why spend money on system then reduce price.



LOL,

1:  Because you are more likely to get the job.

2:  Innovation (wfp) means you are able to lower prices.

3:  You understand the pricing structure in your industry.

List goes on, try using you’re the stuff between your ears, that will separate you from the crowd.





Sorrry Ewan your opinion doesnt mean much to me



It not supposed to, but there’s no denying some of the things I mention are true.

So where does that leave you, waiting for somebody else to say the exact same thing or will you reject the info then because I agree?

You do need to have emotion in business, but not your childish sort.




My childish sort, when have you ever read a post from me that makes me sound like a child, maybe my price was the top end of the market, but incase you where un aware where this hotel is is as far south as you can imagine and thats where the highest prices are, and as i have a very respectful wfp owner who is in my family who helps with pricing my jobs down here (steve-uk knows him), im sure he hasnt got the contracts hes got just threw luck, and hes helped me secure some, and they themselves have passed me onto other people, photo included of below of the kind of work im getting
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 06:16:56 pm
also the quote is for the green parts between each glass panel, and as that hotel is not far from me and i pass it weekly the ground floor windows are massive and there is glass roof.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: Oakley Windows on October 25, 2008, 07:17:34 pm
Ewan do you ever think that sometimes you're the sensitive emotional one?

If you re-read your last post I think you'll find it loaded with emotion (mostly negative, seemingly anger)



Definitely like I said you do need to be emotional about your business, but you make your decisions with using your head.

You can be or choose to be narrow minded and ignorant. But if you ask a question and get an answer you don’t like, tuff.


That depends, head and heart are easily confused, one leads to success the other to down the pan.

Perhaps I should have asked if perhaps you're OVERLY sensitive.

You do appear to throw your rattle out the pram quite often.

Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: NWH on October 25, 2008, 08:04:55 pm
Drove past there a month ago and they were rot.

And so is the Brighton centre just up the road
Spitting distance,Chris if you want to meet up still ring me next week sometime.I was holding the pole at 45ft when you rang.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: ftp on October 25, 2008, 08:13:11 pm
RWC i can't see the prices staying sky high much longer, more and more people are getting wfp van systems and good kit so the competition is bound to get hotter all the time driving prices downwards. I can't see them going higher ever - too much competition and the recession too.
 The same thing is going to happen to gutter cleaning in the end, as more and more buy up the kit.
 Just my opinion and i would like to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: peter holley on October 25, 2008, 08:37:11 pm
RWC i can't see the prices staying sky high much longer, more and more people are getting wfp van systems and good kit so the competition is bound to get hotter all the time driving prices downwards. I can't see them going higher ever - too much competition and the recession too.
 The same thing is going to happen to gutter cleaning in the end, as more and more buy up the kit.
 Just my opinion and i would like to be proved wrong.

i agree with that, we will all be forced to be more competive although £300 for that hotel is madness :o...i dont think the domestic market will be affected though, for some strange reason everyone wants a slice of the big jobsand so theres competition as buisnesses often go for a better price...

domestic customers are happy to pay if you  have good customer relation skills , are reasonable and you are RELIABLE....iv had people trying to undercut me on most of my  domestic round y 50%and iv not lost any!

by the way i would have said £700 for that hotel
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: jaykie on October 25, 2008, 09:08:37 pm
Drove past there a month ago and they were rot.

And so is the Brighton centre just up the road
Spitting distance,Chris if you want to meet up still ring me next week sometime.I was holding the pole at 45ft when you rang.

No worrys will do, ill ring you in the evening sometime and organise  coming over when your not working.
Ewan do you ever think that sometimes you're the sensitive emotional one?

If you re-read your last post I think you'll find it loaded with emotion (mostly negative, seemingly anger)



Definitely like I said you do need to be emotional about your business, but you make your decisions with using your head.

You can be or choose to be narrow minded and ignorant. But if you ask a question and get an answer you don’t like, tuff.


That depends, head and heart are easily confused, one leads to success the other to down the pan.

Perhaps I should have asked if perhaps you're OVERLY sensitive.

You do appear to throw your rattle out the pram quite often.




No not at all I am never that excited about forum banter, just because a few of my post are a bit blunt to some post that are blatantly wrong sometimes that’s the best way to get the point across, as it has more impact.

My response to RWC is done in all sincerity because it a true answer for his understanding, wfp will enable you to be more competitive as will lot’s of other reasons.

If you don’t understand why, then you need to start thinking for yourself, you won’t be able to keep running to somebody else for all the answers if you are supposed to be in charge.
The fact that my response was brushed aside in that manner shows immaturity, he can stay that way or moves forward it’s all his choice and that doesn’t affect me either way.

I wish RWC all the best success, food for thought though it’s not the size of the building that you get to clean it’s the size of your business that count’s. You can interpret that how you like.




No bodys running to somebody else for all the answers, we all ask questions if we didnt then this forum wouldnt excist and if you know all the ansewers then why do you come on a forum yourself.

Chris
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 09:19:34 pm
chris, was that one of the hotels you canvassed?
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: MJH on October 25, 2008, 10:28:55 pm
£1400

Thistle hotels paying over 15k a year for external windows only!!! Not a prayer!!
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: peter holley on October 25, 2008, 10:29:53 pm
now then girlies put the hand bags away :o
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: MJH on October 25, 2008, 10:32:16 pm
now then girlies put the hand bags away :o

 ???,  would say £500 a clean, thats reasonable in todays markets :)
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on October 25, 2008, 10:38:23 pm
Me and STEVEUK got £100 each to do this job and the grabbing B*****d of a boss
got the rest!   greedy C**T
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: Oakley Windows on October 25, 2008, 10:39:44 pm
Steady on chaps, nowhere in the originating post does it say its to be done regularly, might be a one-off, you never know.

To me that road looks a nightmare, cant see how anyone could do that place alone with the height required to reach the top windows stood in the road without the ringpiece twitchin'.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: peter holley on October 25, 2008, 10:41:16 pm
Me and STEVEUK got £100 each to do this job and the grabbing B*****d of a boss
got the rest!   greedy C**T
:o you been had big time :o
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: MJH on October 25, 2008, 10:41:26 pm
Me and STEVEUK got £100 each to do this job and the grabbing B*****d of a boss
got the rest!   greedy C**T

Is that a joke?? :D
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on October 25, 2008, 10:43:12 pm
Me and STEVEUK got £100 each to do this job and the grabbing B*****d of a boss
got the rest!   greedy C**T

Is that a joke?? :D

Its no joke the boss was just a big fat greedy cheese belly of a b*****d.
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on October 25, 2008, 10:51:39 pm
Me and STEVEUK got £100 each to do this job and the grabbing B*****d of a boss
got the rest!   greedy C**T
thats why hes the boss  ;D
WAS!!!!
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 10:52:31 pm
of not as many jobs as he was!
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: MJH on October 25, 2008, 10:59:13 pm
of not as many jobs as he was!

STEVEUK-did you get a ton for that job or am i missing somthing?
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 11:09:30 pm
yeh we used to get £100 each less van rent ,fuel & tax
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: MJH on October 25, 2008, 11:11:51 pm
yeh we used to get £100 each less van rent ,fuel & tax
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thats theft, i thought you were a largish contractor?
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: STEVE-UK on October 25, 2008, 11:34:23 pm
yeh we used to get £100 each less van rent ,fuel & tax
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thats theft, i thought you were a largish contractor?

i set up on my own early this year, all the work we done was commercial so thats the work i aim for as thats what i know
Title: Re: how much for this?
Post by: MJH on October 25, 2008, 11:49:09 pm
yeh we used to get £100 each less van rent ,fuel & tax
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thats theft, i thought you were a largish contractor?

i set up on my own early this year, all the work we done was commercial so thats the work i aim for as thats what i know

Understood, best way!! :), same as.