Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: tolzy82 on October 24, 2008, 05:14:07 pm
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Any one bought one? what they like and how much they cost!
cheers!
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Kevin R on here has one.
I have just had one fitted by waterfed pole systems in Grantham. They also do a bolt on to an existing system.
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whats it like and roughly how much? cheers mate!
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£2650.
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is that for the bolt on?
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Yes,you need to connect it to the fuel tank and all the bits are provided in the kit,you also need to fit a mini fuel pump under the van also provided in the kit.I was about to buy 1 but in the end decieded against deisel as it works out a lot more expensive over gas and more hassle to fit,if i like the L5 gas heater i`ll upgrade to the heater Discount has and then the only other expense involved will be having a proper flu fitted.
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I think, but you will have to check, wfp systems are doing theres for £1600 ish plus vat fitted.
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is theres gas or diesal?
cheers
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is theres gas or diesal?
cheers
Diesel. Its a webasto system, run off your van tank or seperate tank.
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what a rip off
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Webasto are not cheap Luke.
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is theres gas or diesal?
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Diesel. Its a webasto system, run off your van tank or seperate tank.
He will source you a marine tank to run it off of but it`s not designed for that,i wouldn`t spend nearly 3k for an add on heater when you look into it more you can do it with gas for a fraction of the price.
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You don't have to have the one i've got NWH, which is a rinnai, a morco would do the job too. You said you liked the idea that the L5's gas turns on when you need it and off when you don't. In fact they all do this, and that is why it is called an on demand system.
The brand leader puts another lpg fuel tank where your spare tyre is and feeds from there. Many garages sell it now at the pump.I have tried to enquire about the cost of this but can't seem to get an answer- mostly they want to do a complete conversion-.
I believe rough running costs per day are £2 lpg and £5-£7 diesel. You can use red, but who wants a thousand litre tank of that in the back garden.
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£3000??
What to have a stand alone tank?
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Varitech do two hot water systems - both are add ons.
The single operator system is £2300 plus vat and the double system is 2600p plus vat. This includes full fitting and plumbing in to your existing system and diesel fuel tank.
Tell them Kev R sent you for a discount ;D
Call mike on 01626 830 830.
Excellent bits of kit- fully temperature adjustable and with frost protection for your existing system
These systems have Webasto components and are guaranteed for two years.
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what a rip off
drunk this early in the day ::)
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Sounds a good deal to me. Am I correct about running costs £5-£7 ?
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That is about right and i don`t want to have to buy another tank full of deisel for the van every other week,that`s what it would amount to.
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Sounds a good deal to me. Am I correct about running costs £5-£7 ?
The single operator system burns 520 mls of diesel an hour. However once it reaches temperature (when you stop) it stops heating until the temp drops again. I have been monitoring my costs for the last 2 months and I estimate it costs about £3.50 a day to run on an average commercial day.
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One of the main benefits is it saves time. On one job we do I used to have three chaps using cold wfp and we would complete the job in six hours, now we can do the job with two blokes in the same time. So it may cost a bit in fuel but it saves in labour.
First cleans and quarterly commercial cleans especially.
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I suppose either way you look at it it`s peanuts compared to what we can earn.
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I suppose either way you look at it it`s peanuts compared to what we can earn.
Its just like wfp - big out lay but would you go back to trad?
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In investment terms even an Ionics thermopure or concept o2 system are well worth it.
I often grumble on here about people spending half a day converting a harris pole when they could have earned the money to buy an xtel, and I suppose if you add up the reading and thinking and fixing that I have done to get a hot system then I haven't really saved anything, and still have a DIY effort at the end.
We are all in this to try and make money, not become system experts, but many of these systems weren't available even this time last year.
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I have the original prototype Varitech machine. Mike put loads of effort in to getting it right and I did the testing . Between us we have ironed out the original problems and now its an excellent system. We looked at the other systems available and decided that this route was the most cost effective as well as robust. It was important that the machine would take the hammering of daily use, be easily serviced, be made from quality components that have been tried and tested in other similar applications. It could have been made for quite a bit cheaper but the quality would have been compromised.
The machine works well and has no problems. It is more efficient then we first thought it would be. And it is pure simplicity to operate. No trips or flashing lights just a temp gauge and a variable temp dial, of course there or several safety systems in place but they are all reset by simply restarting the machine, so the user can concentrate on work and forget its there.
A lot of testing has gone into this machine. Its far cheaper and has more features than anything else on the market currently, and at £2300 for the starter machine its a bargain. ;)
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Although a heater is more expensive to run for hot wfp use, more work is achieved in a day so the costs of fuel is trivial in comparison to how much extra work can be cleaned in the same amount of time.
The other two main benefits are customers are happier because the water dries much quicker and problem windows 'aren't' problem windows anymore.
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Although a heater is more expensive to run for hot wfp use, more work is achieved in a day so the costs of fuel is trivial in comparison to how much extra work can be cleaned in the same amount of time.
The other two main benefits are customers are happier because the water dries much quicker and problem windows 'aren't' problem windows anymore.
As Wayne Says the results are much much better with problem windows, its very rare I see spotting now. The other nice thing is on large houses / commercial you can check some of your work because some windows will be dry by the time you leave.