Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kinder clean on October 15, 2008, 03:00:35 pm
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Just noticed geoff's reply on another thread mentioned this system, it sounds very efficient, can someone tell me more about it.
Does the system require a truck mount set up?
How much does the equipment cost?
Explain the process of the cleaning system?
Be glad to hear more from anyone about this.
Cheers Paul
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No truck mount required.
Approx £1800
3 rotary heads revolving with either pads (carpets) or brushes (hard floors).
Its an encap system - h ttp://www.cleaning-matters.co.uk/stories/articles/-/floorcare/carpet_cleaning_machines_accessories/cimex_a_firm_football_favourite/
Never used one, Geoff has one and I think Mike Halliday - they will comment more fully no doubt.
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Geoff does more than me and makes a lot of money from it.
we use a 3 headed Cimex machine which scrub a special shampoo in to the carpet fibres, this loosens the dirt and holds it within the shampoo ( encapsulates) when the shampoo dries it crystallises and breaks away from the carpet fibre still containing the soil, these dirt laden crystal are then vacuumed up later.
the visual results can be stunning!
its very big in the USA.
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As Mike as pointed out I do tend to do alot more encap and do make good money from this method,
when ever I survey commercial I push the encap, I give a quick demo , as it takes literaly a couple of minutes to set up and to reitiriate Mikes point , the results are visibly stunning , this can make all the difference in getting the job.
The only drawback I will point out, as some may jump in and start knocking ;) the system , is the critical pre-vac, requiring a visit the next day . This not alway been Ideal because of the logistics, however I have never ever had to visit the next day because explaining the method to custy,s and the importance of post vaccing they are more than happy to arrange with in house cleaners .
Geoff.
ps.
and thanks to Mike for introducing me to encap.
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Just so I get it right Geoff - you do a pre-vac, but the post-vac you get "them" to do it.
Or do you not pre-vac.
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Geoffs got his 'post' & 'pre' mixed up ;)
with encap' you need to remember until the carpet is post vacced no dirt has been removed from the carpet, it might look better but no cleaning has taken place, hence the need for a very thorough post vacuuming.
mike
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DUH :-[ :-[ :-[
tks for the correction
Yes I pre vac, yes I get the custy to post vac
Geoff
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In office situations does the Cimex deal with coffee stains and water stains?
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yes Joe stunning
Hope you're ok
Dave
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Joe ,
water stains not a problem, coffee usualy removed their is an encapsulation spotter for stubborn stains
first pic, was water mark , no wick back
second pic was the worst I have done with encap and a little extra work required , but overall they were happy......... a working mans club
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Are there situations the Cimex is not viable and you would use, say, a rotary instead (or some other machine).
Perhaps thinking of size of area to be cleaned, or access restricted due to desks.
I took a look at the machine at Carpex, but interest been rekindled.
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Hi Dave - yes I am fine.
Didnt know you had a Cimex.
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These machines clean as fast as a rotary but more thorough, the pads on a some rotaries skip over bits and on uneven carpet can miss quite alot, shame that Cimex are so expensive as you can pick up a buffer for less than £200.
Shaun
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can we see the after pictures please.
derek
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quote "can we see the after pictures please."
derek
Yawn ::)
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Still waiting ;D
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you still waiting Brian ? ;)
well if you read the posts on here , i did explain the reason . Simply I didnt take any completly after ,
i prefer to see the difference as in the process od been cleaned.
But just for you heres some that were done today.
the third is Paul from Kinder clean with his first experience using encap.
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and paul in action
sorry Paul couldnt resist the last one ;D
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Paul how did you find it ???
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so how does that work then.
i can see the foam, do you go over again with water or a wand or is that it, or do you just hoover up the foam once its dry, that last ones the right answer isn't it.
i sound thicker everyday on here. sorry forget i mentioned anything, in fact.
who said that?
not me.
derek
i mean errr! errr! george
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Derek bet your getin stuck into your 2nd case of viking ;D ;D
Might have a bud ice :)
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I was very impressed with this system, it's ideal for commercial cleaning, not a system to use for domestic because of its bulk, cleaning in small areas around furniture is not what it's made for, but it has lots of unique selling points for large commercial areas or nursing homes and the like.
It takes 5 minutes to unload and be cleaning, great for onsite demo's.
It has the instant wow factor as the carpet looks instantly clean and bright.
The speed at which you can clean with it, I would say from arrival on the job, including set up and packing away its going to take 1/4 of the time of HWE.
The ease of it, especially physically, there's no torque to fight against at all, just like pushing a pram. (unlike Mike Hallidays agitation machine which almost dislocated both my shoulders when I pulled the trigger) ;D
It's quiet and I mean whisper quiet - as quiet as it goes when someone says 'Clinton, is it your round'? ;)
Less trip hazzards, just an elec cable.
The only small issue is getting into corners and awkward spaces, but thats no different to any other rotary cleaner, a hand brush with some chem would normally suffice, or something like a ?????? forget the name of them now, used mainly for upholstery cleaning, little mini orbiting machine.
Overall a great experience, so thanks again to Geoff, a true gentleman.
P.S. Re - The photo - Does my bum look big in this? ::)
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i'm like you this week clinton, doing well so splashing out on some newcastle brown ale, might even get some mcewans champion aswell, evil that stuff is.
derek