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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: LWC on October 10, 2008, 06:29:57 pm

Title: hot water idea for di users
Post by: LWC on October 10, 2008, 06:29:57 pm
after talking to v8edd, the local ionics guy. he heats his water up in the morn and thats it for the day

i was trying to think about naths set up and he pumps it through after the tank.

but after talking to edd we only really need to get hot water into the tank. which is great because i couldnt think how you would heat up both hose reels.

i didnt want to run hot through di so came up with this thought

yellow hose is the normal route

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/van.jpg)]

the blue hose comes off the pump and could re cycle the water and re heat IF needed

what you think?
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: LWC on October 10, 2008, 08:05:01 pm
got pic up now, sorry bout before
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 10, 2008, 09:00:49 pm
If you had a big water heater,... and a pump designed to take hot water (Like the Ionics ones),...

Still think if you're going to bother with a water heater then an "on demand" one is just as easy!
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: LWC on October 10, 2008, 09:04:01 pm
but how can you do it to for 2 hose reels?
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: LWC on October 10, 2008, 09:33:58 pm
nath how can you run 2 out of it on demand?

please could you explain?
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 10, 2008, 09:36:59 pm
2 heaters,....

:)

The small L5 eccotemp units look perfect. I'm about to buy one myself to replace my heater that's just a bit too hot for use in the depths of winter!
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: NWH on October 10, 2008, 09:38:28 pm
Wha do you think of the omnipole heater.
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Kevin R on October 10, 2008, 09:43:27 pm
Wha do you think of the omnipole heater.

The Omnipole heater isn't temperature adjustable. However its still a good heater. I have the new thermostream from Varitech. Its temperature adjustable and has a thermostatic frost protection system to protect your wfp system from frost. The Varitech system is cheaper than the Omnipole system by a fraction.
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: NWH on October 10, 2008, 09:44:39 pm
It`s getting it fitted,i would want 1 that`s adjustable.
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Wayne Thomas on October 10, 2008, 09:57:47 pm
Wha do you think of the omnipole heater.

The Omnipole heater isn't temperature adjustable. However its still a good heater. I have the new thermostream from Varitech. Its temperature adjustable and has a thermostatic frost protection system to protect your wfp system from frost. The Varitech system is cheaper than the Omnipole system by a fraction.

Kev:

does your Varitech heater have a safety cut off if the water gets too hot and does it have trip switches to reset the unit.
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Kevin R on October 11, 2008, 12:06:17 am
Wha do you think of the omnipole heater.

The Omnipole heater isn't temperature adjustable. However its still a good heater. I have the new thermostream from Varitech. Its temperature adjustable and has a thermostatic frost protection system to protect your wfp system from frost. The Varitech system is cheaper than the Omnipole system by a fraction.

Kev:

does your Varitech heater have a safety cut off if the water gets too hot and does it have trip switches to reset the unit.

Yep  ;D
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Kevin R on October 11, 2008, 12:07:14 am
It`s getting it fitted,i would want 1 that`s adjustable.

Why? would you not like to be able to turn it down in the winter?
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Mr H on October 11, 2008, 07:50:16 am
I don't run a  hot-water system "yet".... but if you have 2 reels would 3 pumps and a small holding tank work....?

Main pump, say 100psi 7Lpm, to supply hot water to a small, well insulated 1 gallon tank, that would then supply 2 smaller, 60psi 4Lpm reel pumps.
Float valve fitted to the second tank to switch off supply.
It would save on having to heaters fitted.....

Regards
Mr H
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on October 11, 2008, 08:27:09 am
as nathanael jones said two heaters

as they are so cheap
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: ftp on October 11, 2008, 08:27:55 am
Who needs a heater when you've got isopropanol  ???
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on October 11, 2008, 09:01:55 am
hot is for life not just for

        Chirstmas
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: matt on October 11, 2008, 09:58:22 am
Who needs a heater when you've got isopropanol  ???

tell us more
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Chris Galloway on October 11, 2008, 12:31:09 pm
Who needs a heater when you've got isopropanol  ???

Thats just to stop the water from freezing. the hot wfp guys use it for its increased cleaning power. Which is the main reason to have a hot system, other than warmer hands :P
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 11, 2008, 08:30:50 pm
Try IPA in hot water,... it really is quite good!

:)
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: NWH on October 11, 2008, 08:36:12 pm
IPA stops everything freezing but it dosen`t melt through the dirt like hot water,i would want a retro fit with the temp adjustable and the varitech 1 seems to be the only 1 that does but do you have to go to them to get it fitted.
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Alex Wingrove on October 12, 2008, 09:20:11 am
is the l5 not temperature adjustable?
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Mr H on October 12, 2008, 09:25:42 am
IPA stops everything freezing but it dosen`t melt through the dirt like hot water,i would want a retro fit with the temp adjustable and the varitech 1 seems to be the only 1 that does but do you have to go to them to get it fitted.

No you do not have to get it fitted by Varitech. Any mechanic can do it. All he needs to be able to do is to safely cut in to the fuel line or be able to fit a secondery small diesel tank in your van. The Varitech system is £2200+vat + fitting....... Bit pricey for me.....

Regards
Mr H
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 12, 2008, 10:12:03 am
is the l5 not temperature adjustable?
Yep it is,... but it's not designed for WFP, its a caravan shower.

The Varitech unit is the only purpose built WFP heater I know of that is temp adjustable. Kev has pics of it on his forum, its surprisingly compact and tidy looking.
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: darragh windows on October 12, 2008, 03:04:04 pm
i have an outside hot tap at home is it possible to fill my tank with hot water which then pumps through the di  ???
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on October 12, 2008, 06:26:40 pm
Nathanael
i see from your pictures you have  mounted your heater on steel plate is this some thing you have to do or was it just to make mounting the heater easier
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 12, 2008, 07:48:22 pm
Nathanael
i see from your pictures you have  mounted your heater on steel plate is this some thing you have to do or was it just to make mounting the heater easier
I did it as a precaution,... but have since taken it off. The back of the heater hardly even gets warm!
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on October 12, 2008, 08:09:32 pm
Great one less job to do.
 ordered two L 5 S  Should get them end of the week
Title: Re: hot water idea for di users
Post by: LWC on October 12, 2008, 08:53:17 pm
i have an outside hot tap at home is it possible to fill my tank with hot water which then pumps through the di  ???

give it a go, i think di is ok up to 60 degres