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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: rugby on October 05, 2008, 08:03:53 pm
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i have always had transits, but around 18 months or so ago i bought a 3 year old vauxhall movano,and i have loved it, great van to drive. but i have heard so many bad things about the reliability of the movano-master vivaro-traffic etc that their has always been a little worry at the back of my mind.
well i was right to worry,this poxy van is starting to cost money left right and centre, the gear box is playing up" a common movano fault" and is going to cost an arm and leg,at least £1000. and now the high pressure fuel pump has gone " a common movano fault" and the cost of replacing this pump and all the other work that goes with it could come in at around £2000.
with a bill of at least £3000 it might pay me to just write it off,so if anyone is thinking of getting a movano-master vivaro-traffic my advice is dont.
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i have always had transits, but around 18 months or so ago i bought a 3 year old vauxhall movano,and i have loved it, great van to drive. but i have heard so many bad things about the reliability of the movano-master vivaro-traffic etc that their has always been a little worry at the back of my mind.
well i was right to worry,this poxy van is starting to cost money left right and centre, the gear box is playing up" a common movano fault" and is going to cost an arm and leg,at least £1000. and now the high pressure fuel pump has gone " a common movano fault" and the cost of replacing this pump and all the other work that goes with it could come in at around £2000.
with a bill of at least £3000 it might pay me to just write it off,so if anyone is thinking of getting a movano-master vivaro-traffic my advice is dont.
bit like my relay, engine ceased at 31k on clock, then calpiers went near on £700 + labour, door jammed (hammer as I had enough with it) all fixed now but it owes me quite a lot of money now, I am sticking with transits now
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I have a ten year old nissan vanette, in the last 5 years it has cost me loads in new parts, 4 new tyres £160, new head light £160 & new exhaust £220. Thats £540 in only 5 years, the vans got to go! what would you recommend ;D ::)
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I have a ten year old nissan vanette, in the last 5 years it has cost me loads in new parts, 4 new tyres £160, new head light £160 & new exhaust £220. Thats £540 in only 5 years, the vans got to go! what would you recommend ;D ::)
if it has only cost you £540 in 5 years I would keep it as long as it is not a rust bucket.
The words that came out of a garages mouth not mine that any thing french seems to be there best customer, I having spent way over £2000 this year on my relay I would tend to agree with them.
Tranist or Vauxhall from what they say are the vans they least see in there
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I have a ten year old nissan vanette, in the last 5 years it has cost me loads in new parts, 4 new tyres £160, new head light £160 & new exhaust £220. Thats £540 in only 5 years, the vans got to go! what would you recommend ;D ::)
if it has only cost you £540 in 5 years I would keep it as long as it is not a rust bucket.
The words that came out of a garages mouth not mine that any thing french seems to be there best customer, I having spent way over £2000 this year on my relay I would tend to agree with them.
Tranist or Vauxhall from what they say are the vans they least see in there
Its as tidy as it was from new (well almost) And yes i am keeping it ;)
Next van for me will be a TOYOTA
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The most popular van I keep here people raving about is the Toyota Hi-ace .
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i bought a transit after two months of umming and arring.... i hace had it a month or so now and i love it... very strong, easy to drive and it doesnt even realise yet, that it has a tank full of water in it :D
granted i have only just bought it , so i wont count my chickens yet..
but every mechanic and his dog warned me off the vivaros others....
they all said the same... gearbox and engine faults.... they all advised me .. transit,,, parts easy to buy/find... easy to work on, etc etc etc.
i am happy at the moment but time will tell.
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had a vivaro for two years and cost nothing apart from a regular service, had a transit(all though it was high milage, it cost 3k in a year and a half around double what it was worth,)
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Forget em all! Transporter is king!
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I have a Transit but they do rust quickly,mine is 4 years old and showing signs already!
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i have a 05 vivaro and 02 transit
i much prefer the transit! its an 02 plate, has a couple of scabs on the seals but its truely ro bust. its slower than the vivaro, uglier than the vivaro but the vivaro is just not robust enough. it also had to have a new head at 45k! the warrenty paid for it so i didn't but even still...all my next vans will be transits ...much more room in the back as well!
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Transits are ugly even the new ones,they look lovley from the front but the back is the same as it`s always been as square as a brick.If you buy a new 1 it`ll only cost you the deisel to take it back to the garage for them to fix it for nothing,if you buy a second hand van your buying someone elses abused work horse even if it has 30-40k on the clock.3-4k in repair bills is ridiculous,get a new 1 and save yourself money.
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Transits are ugly even the new ones,they look lovley from the front but the back is the same as it`s always been as square as a brick.If you buy a new 1 it`ll only cost you the deisel to take it back to the garage for them to fix it for nothing,if you buy a second hand van your buying someone elses abused work horse even if it has 30-40k on the clock.3-4k in repair bills is ridiculous,get a new 1 and save yourself money.
Not everyone can afford to buy new or want to be spending £200+ per month on a new van
when buying any vehicle new or old you take a risk it is going to break down or need some kind of repair you can use your judgement when buying second hand and get a good van that will do you for years with no problems
Maybe when someone is established with a good round and bringing in good money then buying new is an option but you still need to earn the money either way dont overstreach yourselves needlessly
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That`s terrible business sense leaving yourself open to 3-4k bills for your work vehicle,that`s the first most important thing to get sorted.
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Its also terrible business sense to spend money you dont have wait until the business can afford it
Spending money we dont have is why the banks are all failing
And not all repair bills amount to 3-4k you have to be seriously unlucky to get a bill like that or they saw you coming
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had a vivaro for two years and cost nothing apart from a regular service, had a transit(all though it was high milage, it cost 3k in a year and a half around double what it was worth,)
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Back on topic i have a Transit and its a great van heard too many sob stories about Vivaros although i do like them
had a vivaro for two years and cost nothing apart from a regular service, had a transit(all though it was high milage, it cost 3k in a year and a half around double what it was worth,)
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being unlucky has nothing to do with it, its a simple fact im afraid, that the vivaro and movano and the renualt versions have very serious in built faults, the bosch high pressure fuel pump and the gear box are not up to the job of a Commercial vehicle,and can break down in the most looked after of vans.
vauxhall and renualt are well aware of the problem,its been with these vans from day one,i have a friend that owns a fairly large commercial van repair centre " not friendly enough to give me discount though" and he told me he wouldnt touch a movano with a barge pole, he says they never have any problem with movano-vivaro body work,in this department they are fantastic vans,but he says in the engine-gear box department they are simply a joke. he sometimes has to carry out this work on very low milage vans,and since these jobs can cost up to £3000 this is simply shocking.
by the way, when i first couldnt start the van i called out the AA, he knew exactly what the problem was,hed seen it so many times before.
buyers beware, the engines in these vans are very poor, buy at your own peril.
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That`s terrible business sense leaving yourself open to 3-4k bills for your work vehicle,that`s the first most important thing to get sorted.
It took me a couple of old estate car "unreliability" problems to bite the bullet and get a brand new van. (Fiat Doblo) 2 years ago. Should have done it years ago - I reckon a reliable fuel efficient van earns me 25% more in less bills and downtime.
For me the peace of mind/extra productivity/tax break/fuel economy/lower road tax all added together far outweigh the depreciation.
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That`s terrible business sense leaving yourself open to 3-4k bills for your work vehicle,that`s the first most important thing to get sorted.
what happens when your vivaro is in the garage for 3 weeks while the head is being skimmed? you still need to buy a reliable van wether it has manufacturers warreny or not ;)
i do agree with you on the new van though. it makes perfect business sense and when i upgrade thats what i'll be doing, but you still need to buy a reliable van in the first place otherwise you'll have lots and lots of lost revenue!!!!
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being unlucky has nothing to do with it, its a simple fact im afraid, that the vivaro and movano and the renualt versions have very serious in built faults, the bosch high pressure fuel pump and the gear box are not up to the job of a Commercial vehicle,and can break down in the most looked after of vans.
vauxhall and renualt are well aware of the problem,its been with these vans from day one,i have a friend that owns a fairly large commercial van repair centre " not friendly enough to give me discount though" and he told me he wouldnt touch a movano with a barge pole, he says they never have any problem with movano-vivaro body work,in this department they are fantastic vans,but he says in the engine-gear box department they are simply a joke. he sometimes has to carry out this work on very low milage vans,and since these jobs can cost up to £3000 this is simply shocking.
by the way, when i first couldnt start the van i called out the AA, he knew exactly what the problem was,hed seen it so many times before.
buyers beware, the engines in these vans are very poor, buy at your own peril.
My Trafic needed a new gearbox after 39,000 miles - a few weeks inside the warranty period luckily. I have an 03 plate. I did read that they resolved this issue around the 55 plate but who can be totally sure?
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i think you should consider the time you spend in the garage while it is been repaired you will lose money couse you not working plus the repair bill so my opinion is any new van is the best for any business regardless of make
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picking my toyota hiace long wheel base up fri. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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picking my toyota hiace long wheel base up fri. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What colour is she ?
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picking my toyota hiace long wheel base up fri. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What colour is she ?
Silver,8000 miles
Ive got to get all my gear in at weekend.New tank two pumps.Also bedliner and plyline,busy wekend :P :P
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if your puting pumps in van bat use the frunt bat & put two fuses in line on top of bat one on+ & one on -- it will run two pumps all day love my hiace SWB ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Anyone who thinks Transits are reliable is in for a shock.
I've got a Trafic, and it's still absolutely A1.
Not the slightest problem.
A joy to own and drive.
Best by far.
Don't believe the hype. ;)
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Anyone who thinks Transits are reliable is in for a shock.
I've got a Trafic, and it's still absolutely A1.
Not the slightest problem.
A joy to own and drive.
Best by far.
Don't believe the hype. ;)
I still like them but i`ve heard lots of people complaining about them over the last few years,if there that bad they would have to change things otherwise it would put them out of business.I think a lot depends on how you drive it aswell to a point.
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if your puting pumps in van bat use the frunt bat & put two fuses in line on top of bat one on+ & one on -- it will run two pumps all day love my hiace SWB ;D ;D ;D ;D
Do you use the van bat.
Im going to use a split charger to charge bat in back of van.
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A lot of vans have a second battery under the passenger seat.
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picking my toyota hiace long wheel base up fri. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What colour is she ?
Silver,8000 miles
Ive got to get all my gear in at weekend.New tank two pumps.Also bedliner and plyline,busy wekend :P :P
Sorry I thought the van allready gad a liner installed ! I may be wrong /
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Anyone who thinks Transits are reliable is in for a shock.
they are very reliable!! even the AA man that came out to my vivaro said he wants a tranny as the vivaros on thier fleet have been un reliable and keep braking down. a fleet company i dealt with say that vivaros come back all the time and transits never do.
i'm sure trannys that have done 100k plus will be more prone but if they are fairly new every person i know that owns one swears by them.
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picking my toyota hiace long wheel base up fri. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What colour is she ?
Silver,8000 miles
Ive got to get all my gear in at weekend.New tank two pumps.Also bedliner and plyline,busy wekend :P :P
Sorry I thought the van allready gad a liner installed ! I may be wrong /
bedliner as in waterproof rubberized paint.
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i'm sure trannys that have done 100k plus will be more prone but if they are fairly new every person i know that owns one swears by them.
Same goes with a new Vivaro/Trafic then. ::)
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i'm sure trannys that have done 100k plus will be more prone but if they are fairly new every person i know that owns one swears by them.
Same goes with a new Vivaro/Trafic then. ::)
apart from people that know like Mr AA man!! ::)
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i'm sure trannys that have done 100k plus will be more prone but if they are fairly new every person i know that owns one swears by them.
Same goes with a new Vivaro/Trafic then. ::)
apart from people that know like Mr AA man!! ::)
Rubbish.
They all use them because they're good vans.
I don't know anyone who's had a problem with one.
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I've had my little S reg Vauxhall Combo for 2.5 years now... All I've ever had to do with it is replace the 4 tyres and replace the starter motor. It only has 57k miles on the clock, and has been so reliable for me.
However, I've just purchased a very very clean T reg Peugeot Expert 1.9td because I needed something bigger with sliding doors... I'm hoping it will be just as reliable.
Andy
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i'm sure trannys that have done 100k plus will be more prone but if they are fairly new every person i know that owns one swears by them.
Same goes with a new Vivaro/Trafic then. ::)
sorry squeeky but thats not the case, the very very expsenive problem of the high pressure fuel pump failing can occour in vivaro-movano vans with as little as 40000 miles on the clock,sometimes even less, and it can happen without any prior warning,one day ur van is going great and the next day say goodbye to £2000.
its sad and its wrong,but its true im afraid.
back to transits for me
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i'm sure trannys that have done 100k plus will be more prone but if they are fairly new every person i know that owns one swears by them.
Same goes with a new Vivaro/Trafic then. ::)
sorry squeeky but thats not the case, the very very expsenive problem of the high pressure fuel pump failing can occour in vivaro-movano vans with as little as 40000 miles on the clock,sometimes even less, and it can happen without any prior warning,one day ur van is going great and the next day say goodbye to £2000.
its sad and its wrong,but its true im afraid.
back to transits for me
40000 miles is hardly a new one.
Mine will be traded in after 15000.
Besides, I've never heard of this problem.
Get a Transit then...enjoy the gearbox problems, oil leaks and starter motor failing.
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hi
i had a vauxhall combo p reg with isusu 1.7d , great van had it for 6 years , never let me done, only cost the price of an mot each year, now got a 04 scudo , hope it is as good as my combo,was looking at vivaro, never had one , but was put of by a few reports of weak gearboxes, engines ect,so did not want to risk it
daz
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i'm sure trannys that have done 100k plus will be more prone but if they are fairly new every person i know that owns one swears by them.
Same goes with a new Vivaro/Trafic then. ::)
sorry squeeky but thats not the case, the very very expsenive problem of the high pressure fuel pump failing can occour in vivaro-movano vans with as little as 40000 miles on the clock,sometimes even less, and it can happen without any prior warning,one day ur van is going great and the next day say goodbye to £2000.
its sad and its wrong,but its true im afraid.
back to transits for me
Get a Transit then...enjoy the gearbox problems, oil leaks and starter motor failing.
have you owned a transit squeaky? i have owned 3, my dad has had 7 never a gearbox faliure, never an oil leak apart from an old 97 i had and never a starter motor failure. how can you possilby comment on the reliability of a renault trafic that would of done under 15000 miles by the time you get shot of it? and you say i'm talking rubbish! i think you need to re-evaluate me old mukka ;)
i have a vivaro and a transit. both run at 20,000 miles a year so i rekon i may be in a little better position to comment over your one that has done the same mileage as a granny going to tesco's once a week ::)
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no its not got split carger two pumps on frunt bat your starter is 24 v but van elcey is 12 v the way van bats aqre wired up is back bat feds van with 12v the frunt bat is only used to start van so if you put pumps on frunt bat its ok iv had mine like this for 6 munths
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i'm sure trannys that have done 100k plus will be more prone but if they are fairly new every person i know that owns one swears by them.
Same goes with a new Vivaro/Trafic then. ::)
sorry squeeky but thats not the case, the very very expsenive problem of the high pressure fuel pump failing can occour in vivaro-movano vans with as little as 40000 miles on the clock,sometimes even less, and it can happen without any prior warning,one day ur van is going great and the next day say goodbye to £2000.
its sad and its wrong,but its true im afraid.
back to transits for me
Get a Transit then...enjoy the gearbox problems, oil leaks and starter motor failing.
have you owned a transit squeaky? i have owned 3, my dad has had 7 never a gearbox faliure, never an oil leak apart from an old 97 i had and never a starter motor failure. how can you possilby comment on the reliability of a renault trafic that would of done under 15000 miles by the time you get shot of it? and you say i'm talking rubbish! i think you need to re-evaluate me old mukka ;)
i have a vivaro and a transit. both run at 20,000 miles a year so i rekon i may be in a little better position to comment over your one that has done the same mileage as a granny going to tesco's once a week ::)
How do I know?
Used to work in a Ford garage mate. ;)
Those are the common problems. I've seen it first hand.
I haven't owned a Transit, but I've driven probably about 200-300 of them.
I've got a friend with a van hire business too.
Seems to me that there's potential problems with any van.
Just that people will stick up for their own.
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stick up for thier own? i own them both but am sticking up for the reliable one!! ::)
if you listened more you may learn a little something ;)
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youv bin lucky not to have had box in trany i used to look after 100s of them , but haveing sad that its not in the same league as renalt ex , its the expenc that stands them a part 2k for box is the dif and trany its a lot longer befor trubel normaly and trany is esy to fix
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stick up for thier own? i own them both but am sticking up for the reliable one!! ::)
if you listened more you may learn a little something ;)
Maybe you'll one day learn that a brand new van probably won't give you any trouble.
Especially a Trafic/Vivaro. ;)
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stick up for thier own? i own them both but am sticking up for the reliable one!! ::)
if you listened more you may learn a little something ;)
Maybe you'll one day learn that a brand new van probably won't give you any trouble.
Especially a Trafic/Vivaro. ;)
still you show you don't listen...read back through the posts ::)