Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kinder clean on October 05, 2008, 07:26:13 pm
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I don't have room for a frame carrier, so I am relying on someone who has mastered the method of folding away vac hose without fighting with it on the customers driveway for 10 minutes in a desperate attempt to get the plastic b*****d to go quietly back in to its carrying bag. Have considered buying a flute and trying the indian snake charm method. ;D
Paul
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Buy a bigger hose bag, thats what i did.
Mark
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Hi paul
I always roll it into a circle and manage to loop it round and round then when its done put a bungie rope around it :)
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heres an idea, hold one end and then spin round in a circle as it wraps around you, then step out and voula, but seriously, no idea, but it might work.
give it ago, even if it doesn't work you'll amuse the neighbours.
please note, not to be attempted while under the influence of alcohol.
derek
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Thought it was just me!! When I bought the Ninja the chap ( Martin I think ) rolled up the hoses easily and slipped them in the bag, I struggled for a couple of weeks then gave up and just hurled everything in the back of the van.
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Sometimes i do the same garyj and just throw them in the van ;D
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Throw the hose bags away and use bungees.
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With the quality of my work once I have been paid I have to make a quick getaway so no time to fuff about with hose bags.
Have you also noticed at the end of a job and you have had enough how easy it is to pick up a machine that still has water in it but once you get home you struggle to get it out the van :-\
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Don't you empty the machine before it goes back in the van ???
Paul, try sticking one end of the hose on the floor and put your foot on it, then lay the hose down in a coil. Space-permitting, you might find it easier to use a large storage box in the back of the van too.
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You have to have them fully straightened out. If not it will take twice the time and be a right pain in the rectum.
I must admit i find it quite easy winding in but again the key is fully straightening out hoses.
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I reduced my 50' hose to 25' and find no problem getting that length into a smallish coil, working in towards the middle, from either side.
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as diamond said, you have to have the hoses fully laid out or you are fighting a losing battle, as you pull the hose, vac or solution towards you, twist the hose 'round into a loop, the vac onto the ground in front of you and the sol into your hand,
colin
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Don't you empty the machine before it goes back in the van ???
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Mostly I do, but sometimes when I have had enough and it is the end of the day I clean the machine at home, dirty water and all!! If I am cheesed off I can pick the machine up quite easily even when it is filled with waste and clean water, by the time I get home I wonder how I got it on the van as it is very hard lifting it out.
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As suggested lay it fully out first. It was also suggested to me to dispense with the cable ties and have sol/vac seperate.
I find if you twist the hose as you lay it and go with the torque it goes easier and tighter circumference.
Quite often put the machine in van with sol in if between jobs to save time.
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Throwing a coil is an art, very simple once you master it.
Then you buy a hide a hose system, now that really is a b**tard.
The solution and vac' hoses have different natural circumferences
when coiled so one tries to uncoil the other. I used to train cleaners for
a company years ago and used to laugh at trainees attempts, they always
said i made it look easy. Then one trainee surprised me, his reply when i
explained the usual fiasco was after 25 years in the merchant navy,
" i can throw a coil in my sleep".
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Easier if you keep the suction hose separate from the solution hose.
Solution hose easier to coil when its still hot/warm.
Both are easier to coil if laid out straight before starting.
Use bungees to fasten together.
Bag optional - I dont use, just another pain.
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Keep all my stuff in big plastic crates,the green ones from tesco delivery are great for holding 5 ltr chem containers 8 in each,then i have a big one from a butchers,that i can get 50ft of vac and sol hose in,keeps my van nice and tidy,i have 2 for chems that are cable tied to each other so they don`t move around
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I don't know what length you are talking about but here goes...
I use one of those giant plastic tubs (looks like a massive plant pot with two rope handles).
Due to it's round shape, it is dead easy to coil the hoses around the inside. You can use the space in the middle for upholstery tools etc.
Best thing is... it's not like wrestling with a python each time you put the hoses away!
Garry
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still think spinning around like a tit would do it, has anyone tried my idea yet?
derek
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Yes, doing it now. I will try it with the hoses later but the last time I used a technique like this involved alcohol, a sunny day and a swimming pool nearby ;D
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Just a big general purpose. larger than the hoses, "canvass" bag. Also keep brushes, hand tools, upholstery tool, cloths, furniture pads and skiddies in it as well. Easy to bring all into house in one go. Just remember when coiling hoses ( always keep solution and vac separate) to make sure the vac hose is completely empty-don't want to flick waste water all over the wallpaper/furniture etc as I am coiling it.
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skiddies? ;D
oh!!!! you mean sliders.
sorry, thought you took a spare pair for a minute then.
derek
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Yes, sorry sliders as well.
Skiddies are for when the job has gone wrong or the client is unhappy! ;D ;D
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Hi Guys
It's worth noting that plastic has a 'memory', no this is not some techno bull, beloved of a certain organisation ;) but happens because the long molecules get used to a certain position and try to return to that if forced another way.
Thats why it is best to always coil the same way and you will soon find they coil quite easily.
I have found it's better to use a tight coil , allowing room for slackening when you pick up.
I used to just throw them in the van, but it does look much better to turn up with a coulpe of hose bags rathing than look like an inexperienced snake charmer.
Cheers
Doug
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just a thought on tying hoses up, i use bungee clips in the van but they can be dangerous, especially around the vac hose, if they ping undone they can have your eye out, when you get time and the inclination get some velcro strapping from a habadasherey shop, so much safer and they don't stretch-out to useless after a few months!
colin
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Over the years i have had a laugh watchin other CCs and casuals trying to coil up vac hose. It really is so simply. Lay it out straight (this is a must) to make IT EASY. Then simply roll it into a coil. This works with 1.5" & 2" vac hose.
Richie.
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Problem is mine are so old they remember to uncurl and return into a heap no matter what I do.
Does plastic have a memory even if it hasn't got Intel written on the side ???, wondered how those things worked.
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Well the plastic crate is the answer. Managed to find a thick heavy plastic one which i think was used for shoes originally. Been using it for years. My 15m hose, powder and my most regularly used spotters all go in and keeps the van tidy. No problem. The thought of trying to get a well used hose with all its inevitable kinks and loose bits in a hose back frightens me lol
Chris
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That reminds me of the time I once went to the toilet and decided to read the paper to loosen the motions. It was a wonderfull feeling to sit and read at the same time.
The biggest problem I found was after the 1hr mark the viscosity of matter alters and the crayon affect does'th inevitbly follow. Such a mess, I felt like a child without the caring mother.
What the hell I thought, rock and roll, lets run a bath!
Anyway back to the question. We roll it it to the bag.
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I don't know what length you are talking about but here goes...
I use one of those giant plastic tubs (looks like a massive plant pot with two rope handles).
Due to it's round shape, it is dead easy to coil the hoses around the inside. You can use the space in the middle for upholstery tools etc.
Best thing is... it's not like wrestling with a python each time you put the hoses away!
Garry
your bang on the money there ive been doing this for that last 15 years and if your lasy like me
you just rap i little of the hose in the bottom of the tub , stand still and spin the tub feeding the hose in at the same time , this way it wraps itself in there bit like a mini hose reel ;D