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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ian Rochester on October 01, 2008, 07:15:14 pm
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Is there anyone using this new handtool and if so what's it like?
We're using the prochem handtool at the moment, however it's quite a heavy beast and you feel it after a while. Also with Christmas coming up we'll no doubt be getting a shed load of suites to clean during the lead up so something lighter and quicker may be required
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i know paul moss has one and dave washbrook has one not to sure about anyone else
chris
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Its a good tool Ian. We had it set up with the Prowler at the CCDO and I liked it a lot.
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I've got one and find it apsolutely brilliant! does what it says in the ads.
Cleans better than anything I've used before (including the original drimaster)in my 30 years in the game,and it dries so quickly I no longer use airmovers on upholstery.
Great on stairs too!
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I'd definately recommend it, loads faster then anything else I've worked with and drier also you can scrub with it.
Downside is that it uses more water and you can't use it around fiddly bits like you can the PC as with that you can put your finger on the vac slot to get suction in the smallest places.
Still one of the best tools and I've got a CFR and a PC up tool.
Shaun
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Hi, can this tool be used with a portable. Is it better than the Kleenrite I am currently using.
Peter
Beta Clean
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I've used it with my porti and it worked very well.
Shaun
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shaun, if i need to get to a confined space or an edge with the cfr when cleaning furniture i can pull head away from the fabric and spray to 'wet' it and then cover the vac slot to extract, how do you get into these areas with the drimaster, i don't think you can do that can you?
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Spoke to John at Hydramaster today and got one coming up in the post tomorrow/friday for a weeks trial to see how we get on with it.
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Got it today, must say service was excellent, only ordered it at about 4pm yesterday along with some Blitz.
Had a little go with it this afternoon when the van came back, first impressions are very good, feels comfortable in the hand and with the swivel collar it's easy to handle, there's also a regulator on it for controlling the flow of solution over the plate, not sure if the old model had this on, I can't remember seeing it.
The larger sized head is also better, gives a good area coverage without being too bulky, similar in size to my old favorite 3.5" extracta tool, I found the original drimaster tool to be very long in the hand, awkward to handle and too narrow for my liking.
Harvey, who works for me as my main carpet cleaner, was well impressed with the fact that you're not spraying solution all over the place, I can see this being a big advantage when working on wood or laminate floors.
We've got some upholstery to do tomorrow afternoon, so it'll get put to the test then. Unfortunatley, we've only got one other suite booked in at the moment for Tuesday and I've only got it on a weeks trial, I may have to give the mother-in-law a freebie just to test it out properly on her coveted draylon Parker Knoll!!
As for the price, currently £349+vat which isn't too bad if it delivers the goods, ie: clean effectively, leaves the material drier and reduces the cleaning times. I'm let to believe that it uses more water than normal but that this is offset by the reduced time to clean, again, we'll test this theory out.
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I can see this being a big advantage when working on wood or laminate floors
blimey lionheart, never heard of that one, wouldn't that score the metal and likely snag furniture?
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Don't tell me you've never cleaned laminate and wood floors with a handtool Colin. Its dead easy, the only hard part is putting the masking tape over the joins in the boards ;D
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aha! i have had a long day john, didn't see that one,
:)
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I had to read it twice!
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I knew what I meant ;D ;D
But, hey, laminate floor cleaning, now there's an idea ;)
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Peter Beta Clean
I would not use it on a porty, though I haven’t got one, saw it/used it at the ccdo very nice tool did feel a bit fragile, got the kleenrite, cfr and the pc up tool (without the glide)
Think only HM do a free trial give them a call a tool worth looking at.
Len
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Must admit that if it wasn't for the free trial I'd probably not have bothered with it just now and would have waited to have a look at it at the Cleaning Show in March 09.
If HM sell a few of these on my recommendations I may even get a free Cornish Pasty at the show!!
Then again if I don't like and send it back, guess it'll have to be a couple of boiled sweets from the Numatic stand!!!
Just taken bookings for two more suites, squeezed one in for Saturday and another for next Wednesday, so that should give us enough work to give it a good run out.
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Thanks Len
Peter
Beta Clean
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Been using it for a full week now and done 5 suites with it, took a bit of getting used to but once you master the technique then it works well.
Big plus is the fact that there is no overspray.
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how much water does it use compared to other tools (eg; cfr)
mike
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Mike,
Can't compare it to CFR cos never used that, it does use water, but not as much as I expected and it's a lot quicker than using a standard hand tool.
We've been pre-spraying, agitating then extracting with the Drimaster set at about 50%, all the suites have been almost touch dry when finished, done draylon, brockades and a really bad tapestry suite that came up great with just one pass.
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well i find it heavy on water about 220 lts on a suite how ever the suites i do are lifting ! so its 250 psi with full heat for me
how ever if you clean a nice suite thats not had six kids lieing all over it four five years the its not to bad on the water !
how ever im not a one for turning the water off all the time so i guess i could save more water buy doing this but i carry 500lts of water all the time so its not a problem to me ;D
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Its probable, Susan, you are not using 220 litres actually suite cleaning (thats almost 50 gallons!), most of that your TM will be dumping to the dirty water tank because the water is getting so hot, and can then draw on cold water- the machine is protecting itself.
I know "we" get bad suites but I would be looking at the cleaning fluid you use and also - do you agitate to help the cleaning process? Using hand tools I am usually at 150 (ish) psi.
Rightly or wrongly I turn the revs down a bit on my TM when doing suites - it keeps the water cooler
a) not happy at so much heat on some uphol. fabrics b) TM is running cooler.
Perhaps someone with more TM experiance then I will tell me if I am likely to damage the engine running say at 3/4 throttle (ie am I putting a strain on it?).
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Its probable, Susan, you are not using 220 litres actually suite cleaning (thats almost 50 gallons!), most of that your TM will be dumping to the dirty water tank because the water is getting so hot, and can then draw on cold water- the machine is protecting itself.
I know "we" get bad suites but I would be looking at the cleaning fluid you use and also - do you agitate to help the cleaning process? Using hand tools I am usually at 150 (ish) psi.
Rightly or wrongly I turn the revs down a bit on my TM when doing suites - it keeps the water cooler
a) not happy at so much heat on some uphol. fabrics b) TM is running cooler.
Perhaps someone with more TM experiance then I will tell me if I am likely to damage the engine running say at 3/4 throttle (ie am I putting a strain on it?).
jo i do pre spary frist and tempo bush (useing prochem fabic restorer) iwhile the t.m. is on tick over heating up, as for revs my t.m. never runs higher then the frist click of the swich which is a little over half power
i know i could save water if i wanted but haveing a lagre water tanks make you laszy ....
i like the new hand tool and ive used the lot of tools trying to find the best for me and its down to two cfr and the new h.m. tool i binned the frist dry master after useing it for a week its was very poor