Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: George P on September 30, 2008, 07:34:46 pm
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i think that some w/cleaners use wfp mainley but also on occasions use ladders for upstairs would that not be breaking h & s regs (unless when wfp not suitable i.e builders cleans or on flat roofs etc.) i.e if customer dosent like wfp is that a good enough reason?
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I seen a guy in my area with the thermo pure logo etc on his van and they were doing resident of a ladder. I think this would break H+S as a safer option is available.
If the customer would rather you risk your own safety because of there skeptism I would drop them, if its a qaulity issue then sort it out(find out why?) and redo them.
Gerard :)
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thats what i would have thought,
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Tell them your fine to use a ladder, but if you fall off, you will recover costs through their insurance!
Personally if you have the wfp, and there is nothing to stop you from using it eg power lines. Otherwise charge them for ladders and ask them to open the windows so you can tie up the ladders to their frames..
I think they will get the idea :P
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i think that some w/cleaners use wfp mainley but also on occasions use ladders for upstairs would that not be breaking h & s regs (unless when wfp not suitable i.e builders cleans or on flat roofs etc.)
A lot of builders cleans you can't use ladders and have to be done with WFP.
Most sites we work at no longer allow ladders
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The law on ladders is a lot more strict if you employ,what you do is different to what your staff are allowed to do and still be insured.
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I seen a guy in my area with the thermo pure logo etc on his van and they were doing resident of a ladder. I think this would break H+S as a safer option is available
I do the same some residentual off of ladders i use both methods.
I prefer ladders and will continue to use them for certain jobs
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Paul what sites do not allow you to use ladders as I work on a fair few now and all are ok on ladderwork for builders cleans except if you have to climb onto the tiles
cheers J
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i think that some w/cleaners use wfp mainley but also on occasions use ladders for upstairs would that not be breaking h & s regs (unless when wfp not suitable i.e builders cleans or on flat roofs etc.)
A lot of builders cleans you can't use ladders and have to be done with WFP.
Most sites we work at no longer allow ladders
how does wfp remove plastics, morter and general builders crud ?? because if you wfp these I am doing something very very wrong.
Please let me know as I have done many builders cleans and wfp just does not cut it.
Ian
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Jago said
Paul what sites do not allow you to use ladders as I work on a fair few now and all are ok on ladderwork for builders cleans
We do a lot of work for langs, Persimmon, countryside properties and just started with a new one this week but can't remeber the name of my head.
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Hi Ian
The way we are doing them if they are covered in silicon, cement etc is either try to do from insides, or pole with scraper and if no other way we use either scissor lift or cherry picker.
Here is a pic of one of builders clean we are doing at the moment.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll102/pjuk/PICT0308.jpg)
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not again .h s quote . ladders ar not banned .as long as common sense is used .. they say ( h .s .)single tasks that take longer than 30mins in one position ar not suitable for ladders .therefor consider another alternative .wfp etc .so if u can clean a top window in under 30mins. u r. ok end of .
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Your right as long as its for short durations it is allowed the site we are on at the moment do say a ladder can be used only as a last resort and they have to be tied at the top and an adequate safety device at the bottom or footed by someone.
Normal window cleaning is short durations and is allowed
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AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH how many times will these questions be asked lol....no offence intended, just been done before once or twice ;D
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who ever mentions this subject again ( apart from the h s . of course ) should be banned ;lol
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not again .h s quote . ladders ar not banned .as long as common sense is used .. they say ( h .s .)single tasks that take longer than 30mins in one position ar not suitable for ladders .therefor consider another alternative .wfp etc .so if u can clean a top window in under 30mins. u r. ok end of .
You must have to be some kind of ocd person to take 30 minutes on a window on normal cleans lol
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what i meant was if you dont use wfp then its not a probllem, use ladders, not having a go or anything about ladders not being safe to use or banned etc, just thought that if you have wfp but use ladders where wfp would work shurley that would not be the safest and therefore not accepted by h & s?.
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I do Persimmon, Redrow and Charles Church
Never had a problem doing the builders cleans of ladders it is the only way IMO.
Love doing the sparkles with wfp though
;D
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looks a top job that guy is doing on that site paul
;D
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a local guy was fined while cleaning a nursing home using ladders two floors,they fined him 80 quid
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a local guy was fined while cleaning a nursing home using ladders two floors,they fined him 80 quid
On what grounds?
That's rubbish.
Either someone's told you porkies, or he's dopey enough to accept it.
He should fight that.
There is no law.
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NOT RUBBISH HE WAS GETTING WATCHED OVER A NUMBER OF WEEKS,THEY SAID LADDER WAS TWO HIGH,ONLY TELLING YOU WHAT I KNOW.SORRY
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Why do people think health and safety legislation is not law?
If that was the case no one not even commercial companies would have to follow ANY H&S.
Just because its not criminal law does not make it illegal. No you wont get pulled by the fuzz but you can be prosecuted and fined by the HSE.
We live in a free country, you are free to do as you wish within the laws of this land, should you wish to break those rulings then expect to be punished.
As an example, the speed limit on a motorway is 70mph, we all go over that at some point, and we know thats the law, and if caught we get punished.