Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dave0123 on September 27, 2008, 12:19:41 pm
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Just wondering what people would chage to clean all the windows at the front were you can see on regular service and there is more windows at the back proberly around half what you can see at the front same size and shape etc.
also seprately i just wondering how much you would charge to the clean the roof obv cherry picker needed and the cladding on the side of the building.
want to know if what i have priced is roughly what other people are thinking ;D
Thank Dave
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no one then ???
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It's just made for wfp! Half an hour for the front? 15ish mins for the back? Top whack 1 hrs work in total....with me it'd be £30 if regular.
Dunno about the roof.
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waow! you guys are really cheap.
if im understanding properly all those windows on the front need doing from top-bottom?
my price would be more along the lines of £100 traditional or wfp
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waow! you guys are really cheap.
if im understanding properly all those windows on the front need doing from top-bottom?
my price would be more along the lines of £100 traditional or wfp
Then i suspect you wouldn't get the job! It's not a question of "all those windows" it's a question of how long it'd take you multiplied by what you charge per hour. For corporate work I reckon you'd struggle to get more than £30ph.
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If you look were the door is and scale it from that you can see theres an awful lot of windows 100 quid ???
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Im with RS!!!
You couldn't do a proper job spending only 30minutes on the front.
I have nearly 3 years experience with wfp, I consider myself to work at a good pace and always do an excellent thorough job. for the front of that building I would charge approximately £150. There are alot of sills which will be manky (I bet) and as a results you will get a lot of runs.
£150 is actually a little cheap but it would secure the job. Any less and you would regret it.
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£30 WHAT!! :o, minimum £150 because the building is not small... as sombody said look at the door..
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That's a lot of glass at the front for 30mins. 45mins maybe if done properly with a very high flow of hot water.
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Guys, I'm not wfp so am just guessing as to how long it'd take...and from what I'm always reading about how fast wfp is I "guesstimated" about 1 hour. OK if it takes 2 hours then surely one charges for 2 hours work...3 hours then charge for 3 hours work. But YWCS's £175? Blimey this must be for an entires days work and no way with wfp would it take a day to complete.
I'm so grateful that you guys exist....you keep me fully booked ;D
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It's just made for wfp! Half an hour for the front? 15ish mins for the back? Top whack 1 hrs work in total....with me it'd be £30 if regular.
Dunno about the roof.
I'll do it for 20.
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i carnt belive some of the prices here i put the price in alot higher.
am sure you are getting mixed up with the scale of this building doing it on ladder would take more than a day. Theres all the front then the sides you can see each side. then about half the on the back as you see the front at about 40 foot high
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I know im not great at pricing up commercial as still new to it but surely this would easily be hitting over £200 min, id say £230 inc back.
Chris
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for windows roof and cladding 300 cherrypicker hire extra
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I know im not great at pricing up commercial as still new to it but surely this would easily be hitting over £200 min, id say £230 inc back.
Chris
I would have thought that about right, those are big windows, if they bead badly the job could take all day.
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Just wondering what people would charge to clean all the windows at the front were you can see on regular service and there is more windows at the back probably around half what you can see at the front same size and shape etc.
On a monthly cleaning schedule I would quote about £85 and I would expect to get the contract. Two of us would take 45 minutes to do the job.
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it would olso depend how far to travel .if local at least £100 plus cherrypicker ..( for roof )if travel n job. took a day £250 plus cherrypicker .
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Just done one quite similar to that (all glass), first clean took a long time due to build up of filth, required a couple of rinses, first clean charged- £250.
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Inc back, front and sides there would nearly be 250 panes of glass and most of them are big, even the small ones are about the size of a pain of glass in a house, so i would definatly say £230 but £200 would get the job and thats just windows,
Chris
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£180 take it or leave it.
Alex £85 :o Do you need the work? Have you got a magic wand. LOL
Steve a
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Put 180 first then modified it to 150 then back to 180, there's a lot of glass and ledges there. If it was large windows, less ledges then yes 150, but as you have to do each window separately then 180.
I do 2 similar jobs for 142 and 175
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£180 take it or leave it.
Alex £85 :o Do you need the work? Have you got a magic wand. LOL
Steve a
:D That was just for the window cleaning on a monthly basis, based on a year's contract and yes I have got a magic wand ;)
Looking at the building (I could be judging it completely wrong!) I just cannot see how it could be £200's worth of work. I realize that prices in Cornwall are not as high as some other areas, so this may need to be taken into account.
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£180 take it or leave it.
Alex £85 :o Do you need the work? Have you got a magic wand. LOL
Steve a
Clearly if you and Alex were competing for the job Alex would get it. Alex has done his sums and reckons 90 minutes work, times his hourly rate (appears to be £60ish) and arrives at £85.
Obviously if 3 or 4 cleans down the line it turns out 90 minutes was too conservative and in reality it's taking 120 minutes then perhaps a bit of renegotiating would be in order.
To me the ONLY way of pricing any job is hourly rate multiplied by time expended plus a bit of tweaking to take into account proximity and frequency.
I think the days of "£180 take it or leave it" are over for the time being...especially if you're in competition with the likes of me and Alex.
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id rather do 5 or 6 houses then charge £85 for that , look how many windows there are then half again round the back and youve got windows at side,
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assuming half as many windows again on the back as there are on the front then you have 200+ windows, each set nicely into their own frame.
Anyone thinking they can do a decent job on that in half an hour is badly mistaken. thats 9 seconds per window!! considering some of those panes are 8ft plus, I reckon thats very ambitious.
we clean a number of car dealerships - similar to the building pictured and I would estimate it would take one decent wfper 90mins based on a monthly clean with a high water flow.
price £90
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I just dont understand the so low prices tbh am the same with RWC if i got the job for 85 or 90 or anything around there i would rarther stick to houses i do a small hotel for more than 90 pound and theres less windows and an easy job.
once the front is done would you not have to make ur van taking more time? i estimated about 2 -3 hours doing the front making it a very good job but im just slow with WFP anyway houses dont make me any faster with wfp slower infact so maybe thats why.
I priced this job in feb and they didnt choose me and i have been asked again, i imagine because who ever priced it before was and got id underpriced the work and they didnt get the roof done in the end and now there seeking window cleaning and roof cleaning. the last price was over £200 just for the windows and to be fair i wouldnt want the job for 80 or 90 pound to much hasel.
dave
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ok. i do a building similar to this, although my job also has a porch of which i do the inside.....i also do about 20 windows on the inside....i do th job every 6 months, and it took me 4 hrs on the first clean...(filthy) ... the next clean will take me 3 hours... i cgarged £230.
if it was monthly i could charge £130, but then i would be able to do it in about 2 hrs 30 mins.
i live about 5 mins away....
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what price did you put in,and what price do you think its worth,like you sayfrom scale of pic there are some windows there
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Prices down in East Devon are **** hence why I use a high water flow and don't dawdle around with perfection cleaning when it comes to windows. I look at every pane of glass as an amount of money to be cleaned as quickly as possible and onto the next one. If I could get away with charging £200 plus for that job I'd be driving around in a Ferrari.
Some of the prices on here are either over inflated or you're very lucky you don't have the competition from seasonal workers, benefit cheats and new have a go window cleaners popping up all the time to have to lower your prices to compete against competition. Wages in this part of the country are very low compared with the rest of the Uk despite having the second least affordable houses in relation to annual incomes.
Credit crunch has kicked in where I live. A lot of people have lost their jobs or are cutting back on expenses or are selling up. I am finding it harder to replace lost customers with decent new ones at decent prices because of so much competition.
I'm just happy I can earn more than the average person for the amount of hours I work to fit in around my long term illness which prevents me from taking alternative employment or moving abroad to live.
I can't get over inflated prices where I live so the only way I can earn good money is to do each job as quickly as possible which I've succeeded in with help from this forum.
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Np disrespect but if you didnt dordle and made sure you put 100% in to each clean then people wouldnt go for a cheaper cleaner, they may think well our guy doesnt do a great job so why not go for a cheaper guy with the same outcome, ive priced up work where previous cleaner was £10 and i was £18 but theyve taken me on as i leave the place cleaner. Also by the sounds of it there is a big difference in areas as ive heard people slated for what theyve said they charge etc but its true these prices excist,
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Np disrespect but if you didnt dordle and made sure you put 100% in to each clean then people wouldnt go for a cheaper cleaner, they may think well our guy doesnt do a great job so why not go for a cheaper guy with the same outcome, ive priced up work where previous cleaner was £10 and i was £18 but theyve taken me on as i leave the place cleaner. Also by the sounds of it there is a big difference in areas as ive heard people slated for what theyve said they charge etc but its true these prices excist,
exactly right...i posted earlier and said i get £230 for a similar job, i spend a good 4 hours on the job(less on the next clean)although it is only 6 monthly.... however how can i be overexagurating, when the that is what i charge!i do admit i may have slightly overpriced it....but i still got the job, and the director is the husband of our health visitor, he wanted someone reliable and known in the community.
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£30 wow were you based simon i would sub out all my commercial and make a fortune for sitting on I disagreee, simon you say window cleaners like us help your business well window cleaners like you help mine, you cnt clean that properly in 45 min so it would mean you doing a poor job and then they would look else were.
i would say the roof would be around 200 plus cherry picker charge and the windows from around £150, ask them if they have had a quote gives you an idea of your competition.
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I'm a newbie so i would bow to your experiance but...... i would look at between £150 and £200 depending on how often they want them cleaned . The chap who said £30 can he contact me as [ if he's any good ] i'll sub ALL my contract work to him.
I got into this as 1/ I'm my own boss "2/ With WFP i reckon i can make some money [ to me thats £30 phr plus ] 3/ I can work hrs that suit my family 4/ i'm not sitting in traffic that adds 2-3 hrs to my working day 4/ I dont give the taxman everything.
So i'm loving being a window cleaner but £30 for that???????? i'm just glad i'm not living in the same area
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£120
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i'll stick by what i said. £180 take it or leave it. 3-4 hrs to do a proper job, of it takes longer you're covered if it takes less time you're going too fast but you will be quids in, £30 is too cheap £85 is working for wages.
Just my opinion
Steve a
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Guys, I'm not wfp so am just guessing as to how long it'd take...and from what I'm always reading about how fast wfp is I "guesstimated" about 1 hour. OK if it takes 2 hours then surely one charges for 2 hours work...3 hours then charge for 3 hours work. But YWCS's £175? Blimey this must be for an entires days work and no way with wfp would it take a day to complete.
I'm so grateful that you guys exist....you keep me fully booked ;D
This is what I posted! I work for £30ph which doesn't strike me as a bad rate.
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a building that size would depend on how dirty the windows and roof are to start with, this would take more time, factor this into the price over the period of contract .
£80 for a building that size is crazy! no less than £200 for windows all round , roof is a different matter
If they are now asking you to re-price the job because the last window cleaner quoted £80 and he realised he under sold him self and regreted doing the job , i would say put the same price you previously put in .
Good luck :)