Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Paul Davidson on September 21, 2008, 09:33:30 pm
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Have been doing some homework on the oposition, and locally that is mainly a Chem Dry franchise.
I am interested in what kind of system they use as a potential customer was refering to them last week.
I see from a website its some kind of a rotary which i believe uses carbonated water?? I also see on one particular website it was linked to some kind of extractoin hose??
A brief overview of their system, and how it works would be greatly appreciated.
regards and thanks
Paul
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All I know is that recently we did jobs for 2 custys who used them, and both said how vastly better we were than them.
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Their machines have 2 pumps and they use 2 chemicals which mix at the head and create Carbon Dioxide (bubbles) which drives the dirt to the top of the carpet where it is extracted away.
It all started when a Mormon guy sprayed a soda syphon onto a wine spill and it came off. It was probably just the water but he thought it was the bubbles and a multi billion dollar business was born.
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Kev I'm sure you are good at your job but I do think that CD get a kicking sometimes because of their stature and prices.
The trouble is when you start employing people to do the work then the quality does suffer sometimes, you have to look the part and act the part be agony aunty and sometimes be prepaired to be a MR fix it as customers will ask you to do the most unusual things. If you were working for someone would you always go out of your way to do some of this and try and be home for tea?
Getting back to the question, CD are using TM's with a carbonated mix, the TM as I believe have 200psi pumps, loads of heat, the power of an entry level TM and a chamber to mix solution A to B to create the bubbles, the power head which is hardly used by most operators is an RX20 clone.
Nothing new really as you can't reinvent the wheel but you CAN remarket it!!
Shaun
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Hey paul
There is load of it on youtube
I can upload the link on here, it wont let me:(
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Chem Dry uses the same systems as any other professional carpet cleaner if you look on youtube for them youll see them demonstrate there system, one video shows them using RX20 and a truck mount .
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Wasnt trying to be disrespecting to CD, only stating what has happened :-X I'm sure there are good and bad as there are with other franchise's and independents alike :-\
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Chem Dry uses the same systems as any other professional carpet cleaner if you look on youtube for them youll see them demonstrate there system, one video shows them using RX20 and a truck mount .
No they don't. Their system is unique and patented. Doesn't mean its better.[
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John,chemdry is now one of Hydramaster's biggest customers,they use spitfires and an rx20.But over here they still use the pad system.
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John,chemdry is now one of Hydramaster's biggest customers,they use spitfires and an rx20.But over here they still use the pad system.
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Cheeky cow over the road from me asked me to quote for her carpets, then a few weeks later a chem dry van rolled up outside!
He had a machine sat outside the front door that was no bigger than a decent spotting machine or hot solvent extractor. It didn't make much noise, so it must have been pants :)
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LOL, that was a slap in the face.
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The Chemdry guy in Chesterfield uses a Rhino Porty and carries his own water in lots of 25 litre containers ??? the mind boggles - I know this because I watched him cleaning my neighbours suite before I got my own kit.
Paul
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Jim
I would of let his tyres down! The cheeky numpty!
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Not his fault, he's only doing what we all do!
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I mean't the customer:)
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The chemdry tm is not a spitfire it may have been at one time but they have taken away anything that would make it a good machine leaving something pretty pants it has a compressor rather than a pump to pressurise a and b tanks forcing the contents out through the solution lines. Something to think about though is the fact that any brass connectors on the machine have been changed out for stainless, this is due to the fact that their solution is so corrosive it was eating through the brass far too quickly!
Cheers Goron
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Hydrogen oxide probably ;)
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My mates CD Tm
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Chemdry guy local to me has a panther truckmount.
Mark
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Thanks guys, it seems like they generate bubbles from various portables and truckmounts through a rotary head system.........i think! :o Not what i was expecting for sure!
cheers and thanks
Paul
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I was up at Altec last week and there was a CD buying chemicals and he had one of their machines in the back.
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I'm not sure if by having a CD franchise you MUST use their systems and no others.
I know with ServiceMaster there are certain "systems" that revolve around the SM products but you're not obliged to use them. It's just that in the event of any problems they won't and can't offer you any support if you're using another supplier's products, which is fair enough.
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we cleaned a house of carpets for a lady whose husband used to run a chem dry franchise and then sold to a friend after about ten years , and by both of there admissions they said the whole system was rubbish!
Its true! - i was gobsmacked, they said they had heard we did a good job so thought they would get a decent job done, 8)
steve
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10 years or so ago they were primarily just LM cleaning all carpets, in the US I think they still prefer this as it's more profitable because of its speed IMO the UK operation of CD is far better.
Shaun
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The majority still aren't really interested in the carpet cleaning side. There are a few "super" franchises now making millions from restoration work.
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The majority still aren't really interested in the carpet cleaning side. There are a few "super" franchises now making millions from restoration work.
What exactly do you mean when you say restoration work???
cheers
Paul
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Floods and Fires
I think as John says, some of them don't really bother with the carpet cleaning side of the business.
I'm led to believe that part of the franchaise agreement is that they have to purchase £200 worth of these two part carpet cleaning chemicals each month from the parent company, regardless as to whether they use them or not. This cost only equates to about 6 or 7 single uses of the system @ £30 a fill.
You need to be charging very top dollar to make any margin on those overheads.