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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Scrimble on September 21, 2008, 09:31:46 pm

Title: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Scrimble on September 21, 2008, 09:31:46 pm
currently i am 100percent trad and i want to convert over to wfp which i will use on most of my customers, i'm thinking of a freedom trolley as i dont have that many customers just over 100,

however i've recently bought a 03 astravan lpg which i really like now i know there not supposed to be that good with wfp but i could sell it and get a vauxhall combo van with the sliding door as you can get them with lpg too which i would want. i'm not sure what to do either have a freedom trolly in my astra or a van mount in a combo van.

does anyone on here use a vauxhall combo van for window cleaning? what are they like and how good are they for the job?
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: the gedi on September 21, 2008, 10:07:27 pm
had my combo for a month now , great compared to escort van , its a better van as i can get my poles in side van , fitted brackets to the roof , try to get one with a turbo  better when carry water i have 250lts tank but want to upgrade to a 400ltr tank , also look one that has 800kg payload (.combo 2000)
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: ok cleaning on September 22, 2008, 08:48:36 am
wouxhall combo has no sliding doors mate
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: geefree on September 22, 2008, 08:56:50 am
transit.
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: the gedi on September 22, 2008, 04:54:42 pm
mine has a sliding door
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Big Dave @ CWC on September 22, 2008, 05:09:02 pm
im wfp with freedom trolley, i use astravan, works very well for me, 

i carry 10 x 25L barrels. fits just right which means it dont slide all over the place when im racing the lanes to get to my next job, the fact it looks and drives like a car is a worthwhile bonus. only downside poles are overhanging into the front cos loadspace is only 1.8metres long, my longest pole unextended is 2.2metres, but i sorted that out nicely with overhead storage brackets and upper half bulkheads to keep them off the seats, still drips down on center console a bit when wet though.....  just put a towel over it, carries enough water to earn £200 pd residential, picking up a brand new astravan on 58 plate end of the weekwill set it up the same way, they even have plastic trays in the load area that come up the sides, which means its watertight already -

some dont like it but suits me to a T, and looks great to drive outside work hours too.....   i guess its like marmite! ;D
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: MNWC on September 22, 2008, 05:17:06 pm
£200 per day eh!

May i ask how many houses you clean for that amount and what area your from as id love to earn that sort of money every day . (Whats your secret)
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Scrimble on September 22, 2008, 06:01:31 pm


d prosser cant you put the poles on the roof? i'd be really gratefull if you could post a picture or two of your van and its set up?
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: windowwashers on September 22, 2008, 06:19:31 pm
Get as big as van as you can afford, Tranist type/size you will not run out of water as you can hold a big enough tank for one/2 persons , combo, escort etc for future you will limit yourself to how many jobs you do in a day if you get busy and want to take the next step..
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: j burton on September 22, 2008, 07:07:50 pm
i earn 200 a day £10 per house on average 20 -25 houses a day,i live in the midlands.
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Scrimble on September 22, 2008, 07:34:51 pm
dont want a big van too expensive to run i only have a small round at the moment
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: MNWC on September 22, 2008, 08:18:46 pm
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i earn 200 a day £10 per house on average 20 -25 houses a day,i live in the midlands.

Thats good supposing you work on average 8am till 4pm everyday with just 1 hour for dinner and other stoppages thats just over 16 mins per house Including travelling to the next job, Collecting money / writing out ticket.

I must be doing something wrong   

 
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: MoemGorod on September 22, 2008, 08:23:39 pm
Do recommend GAZ Sobol from Rusia... new one - just 8000 GBP.

Good car, maybe..

Vadim / MoemGorod™
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Clive McDonald on September 22, 2008, 08:29:54 pm
That's what I hate about this forum- you post genuine info and as an aside mention something else- you get asked about it by a greenhorn, so you go to the bother of explaining....... 20 houses in the midlands etc.....

And then turns out you were only asked so you could be called......

Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: MNWC on September 22, 2008, 08:46:52 pm
allright Discount wind yer neck in

Its a genuine comment 
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Big Dave @ CWC on September 22, 2008, 10:46:43 pm
in response to markberesford and marcus norten

i dont like to put poles on top cos of value, havnt even got a roof rack lol,

i have 411 customers, i work in and around maidstone, do around 20 jobs a day, leave home at 8am and home by 3-4pm, no lunch breaks, keeps me gut down so i can fit me beers in at the weekends  ;D

built it up over 3 years........

will post pic when i get me camera back, lent it to me bruvver, should get it back by weekend..
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: j burton on September 23, 2008, 07:31:00 am
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i earn 200 a day £10 per house on average 20 -25 houses a day,i live in the midlands.

Thats good supposing you work on average 8am till 4pm everyday with just 1 hour for dinner and other stoppages thats just over 16 mins per house Including travelling to the next job, Collecting money / writing out ticket.

I must be doing something wrong   

 
i must say there is myself and my wife working,it has been known to do 30-35 houses in a day.
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: cat9921 on September 23, 2008, 08:31:13 am
i earn 200 a day £10 per house on average 20 -25 houses a day,i live in the midlands.

I live in the midlands too, Tamworth

Can you send those 10 pound house to me  :D
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Tim82 on September 23, 2008, 09:20:57 am
currently i am 100percent trad and i want to convert over to wfp which i will use on most of my customers, i'm thinking of a freedom trolley as i dont have that many customers just over 100,

however i've recently bought a 03 astravan lpg which i really like now i know there not supposed to be that good with wfp but i could sell it and get a vauxhall combo van with the sliding door as you can get them with lpg too which i would want. i'm not sure what to do either have a freedom trolly in my astra or a van mount in a combo van.

does anyone on here use a vauxhall combo van for window cleaning? what are they like and how good are they for the job?


If you're just using a freedom trolley, you dont need a van. I use an estate.
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on September 23, 2008, 09:26:24 am
dont want a big van too expensive to run i only have a small round at the moment

If you choose carefully then a big van can be as cheap to run as a small one. I would be of the opinion that bigger really is better. I had a Pug Partner with a 400 ltr tank in,.. it was awkward, cramped, slowed down the work, and really restricted what I could do.
Now I've a boxer van, and the difference is amazing. I've room for a 2nd tank if I take on an employee, I can carry a gutter vac if I want, I can carry office cleaning gear & floor cleaning gear and it still won't interfere with me cleaning windows.
It costs about €10 a week extra in fuel, but tax & insurance are the same,... and it easily makes that €10 back for me, and plenty more on top.
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Big Dave @ CWC on September 29, 2008, 10:05:17 pm


d prosser cant you put the poles on the roof? i'd be really gratefull if you could post a picture or two of your van and its set up?

pic as requested, Mark

Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Big Dave @ CWC on September 29, 2008, 10:08:16 pm
another for you, hope it helps
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Big Dave @ CWC on September 29, 2008, 10:13:12 pm
you may have noticed that between the cargo retaining bar and the bulkhead theres actually 550 x 950 spare space, you could easily fit a tank in there, bear in mind what ive got in there weighs no more than 300kg, so you would have enough spare weight to put another 350kg in, ample for say a 250L tank filled with water.  as payload is 650kg........ ;)
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: pjulk on September 29, 2008, 10:31:29 pm
Go for a transit sized van if you can.
I had an escort van for a year and it was so cramped with all my WFP gear.

for the last couple of years ive used a transit and i have now filled that up with equipment.

Next i will need a LWB van and would probably fill that up.
Title: Re: wanting to go trad to wfp which van?
Post by: Scrimble on September 30, 2008, 11:16:36 am
thanks for the pics prosser