Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jeff1 on September 11, 2008, 11:59:24 pm
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I had a phone call this week to go and price a Job for cleaning the roof of a conservatory, I went to meet the lady and she began to tell me that she already has a w/c but he won't touch the roof of the conservatory or the window above it, (he's Trad) when this custy asked him why he couldn't do the roof ? His reply was you need strong chemicals but they will kill all your plants and surrounding grass? and could do a lot of damage to the conservatory.
Now she was chatting in general with one of my own customers and my custy told her ''My window cleaner use's echo friendly stuff'' that doesn't even kill fish?? (Well she actually told her that the fish like it Lol)
Just to put this lady's mind at rest I went and got my container to let her read the label, She was over the moon that her conservatory roof could be cleaned with an eco friendly product, needless to say I got the Job of the whole conservatory on the condition I could do those pointy bits at the top Lol, also Just to keep this lady happy I did the window above the conservatory for her.
She was over the moon with the end results and the pointy bits (finials) at the top were spotless for her.
I could have walked away with the job of doing her windows on a regular basis as well, she's not very happy with her old w/c now, but I told her I don't take other w/c work but she has my number for the future.
but I got a twice a year Job from it.
So the words getting around about the ecover truck wash.
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Jeff is it as good as TFR, how easy did the algae come off
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Was gonna ask the same question. Also, does it rinse well off glass? Not like the "fairy" effect! I am thinking to do a deep clean on new work with something like this. Then perhaps repeat every couple of years.
We have found that with repeated use, the waterfed method can leave a gradual build-up on the glass which I assume is from diesel fumes. Was thinking to hit the windows with some kind of chemical periodically to remove this
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Was gonna ask the same question. Also, does it rinse well off glass? Not like the "fairy" effect! I am thinking to do a deep clean on new work with something like this. Then perhaps repeat every couple of years.
We have found that with repeated use, the waterfed method can leave a gradual build-up on the glass which I assume is from diesel fumes. Was thinking to hit the windows with some kind of chemical periodically to remove this
I used it on a job last week where they wanted the window frames done.
It needs good rinsing, its pretty much the same as the Fairy effect, but just make sure it gets rinsed well.
I did have to go back on this particular job as the frames had for some reason a hole in each of them just on the lower bar of the top opener, which leaked water afterwards, just like a vent would.
Once that had stopped running, they cmae up good as new.
Matt
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Was gonna ask the same question. Also, does it rinse well off glass? Not like the "fairy" effect! I am thinking to do a deep clean on new work with something like this. Then perhaps repeat every couple of years.
We have found that with repeated use, the waterfed method can leave a gradual build-up on the glass which I assume is from diesel fumes. Was thinking to hit the windows with some kind of chemical periodically to remove this
i use a dilute gg3 solution , in a backpack for this. go over with van mount , rinses of no problem.
daz
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Was gonna ask the same question. Also, does it rinse well off glass? Not like the "fairy" effect! I am thinking to do a deep clean on new work with something like this. Then perhaps repeat every couple of years.
We have found that with repeated use, the waterfed method can leave a gradual build-up on the glass which I assume is from diesel fumes. Was thinking to hit the windows with some kind of chemical periodically to remove this
Isopropanol would do the trick for film build-up on the glass. It can be added to your standard tank and does not affect your TDS.
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Sorry for the late reply Guy's I lost my Internet connection.
OK, I use ecover on every upvc Job I do, I spray it on then leave it for 5-10 minutes then wash it off, If its a guttering Job I use my gutter lance but if its on conservatories I use wfp only, same thing applies I spray it on leave it 5-10 minutes but then I brush it off, there is really no hard scrubbing involved and only gentle brushing on the finials because there always loose.
All my Jobs but one have only ever had one application of ecover and some have been really bad.
When I do guttering it inevitable sprays onto the windows this is why I always include a window clean with every guttering Job I do, I have never had a problem with any effects of ecover on the windows, Don't forget this product it bio degradable and easily wash's away.
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Jeff, what's the longest you've left this ecover on (forgot about it) and then had to remove it. What's the minimum length of time (5 mins?) you leave it on and what's the duilution ratio please. Good selling point with pets and fishponds :)
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Jeff, what's the longest you've left this ecover on (forgot about it) and then had to remove it. What's the minimum length of time (5 mins?) you leave it on and what's the duilution ratio please. Good selling point with pets and fishponds :)
About 20 minutes when a custy came out yapping to me ::) I thought I would have to re-apply it, but when I started to wash it, I seen the little suds come up, so I carried on washing and it came up a treat.
As for dilution, It says on the container 15% dilution, but I stick 1ltr into a 5ltr container and use it that way, it already has a 30% water content.
The time for application on the bottle says 1-5 minutes but like I say I leave mine 5-10 minutes and it does a good Job.
I find its becoming very popular with my custys, these country people like to look after the country side and that's good news for me. ;)
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Hi Jeff,
How do you apply it to conservatories and finials? Do you have a spray on a lance? :)
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Hi Jeff,
How do you apply it to conservatories and finials? Do you have a spray on a lance? :)
Thats what I use, its a harris pole with a garden sprayer nozzle secured to it using cable ties. The pipe-work runs up through the pole from a garden pump sprayer and is fine for applying to finials and rooves etc. The thing about finials I have found is theyre fragile, easily broken Id imagine, but once this ecover is sprayed on them a very light brushing removes the algae and grime that they pick up, they never did come up like they do now, its really nice to see all the contours and fiddly bits spotless now.
Matt
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Yep! I do the same as Matt
Here is a couple of pictures to show you how I built mine
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/HarrispoleTFR003Small.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/HarrispoleTFR004Small.jpg)
Mine has a trigger on it for easy control
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/HarrispoleTFR005Small.jpg)
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Jeff I spotted that nozzle setup you have before, it looks somewhat superior to the one I have ;D where did you get it from?
Matt
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I got it from Focus when they were closing down in my area, it came with a couple of different type's of nozzles.
I think there around £15 but I payed a fiver for it in there last day sale.
It has a little nozzle on the top and you can control the flow amount, if I get a really grimy one I just turn up the control.
In-case you go looking for one? Its called a Hoselock flower shower. ;)
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Thanks very much :):)
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Your most welcome ;)
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I got it from Focus when they were closing down in my area, it came with a couple of different type's of nozzles.
I think there around £15 but I payed a fiver for it in there last day sale.
It has a little nozzle on the top and you can control the flow amount, if I get a really grimy one I just turn up the control.
In-case you go looking for one? Its called a Hoselock flower shower. ;)
Cheers Jeff, and look what I found ;D
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£20 from Argos, £33.00 from some other shower :o
I'll get one but shop around methinks, I like the look of yours it looks like it gives a more even spread of spray.
Matt
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Once you pump the pressure up, it gives a very good even spray, like having a shower.
If you get yourself a trigger you can control it from your pole, other-wise you have to release the pressure when you want to stop, that becomes a pain in the rear when you only want to move, Just means you have to re-pump it.
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dilution for ecover is 1 to 5 % not 15% just checked on gardiners web site
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dilution for ecover is 1 to 5 % not 15% just checked on gardiners web site
You may well be right but I have just checked on the container and I can't see a dot or anything between the 15.
But just to help you I stick 1ltr in a 5ltr tank and I have always had good results.
I will check this with Ecover to get the correct % of dilution unless Alex can put some light on it.
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www.ecover.com/NR/rdonlyres/42C57565-00BF-4C9D-9367-423DA714DD08/4329/TFProfessional_TechnoGreen_Truck_washEng_bis.pdf
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My Opologies it is 1 to 5%
If anyone else has a container please have a look on the back and tell me I'm not going MAD ;D it does say 15%
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My container has no figures, I mix up at 15% because Jeff the God told me to ;D
I may go down to 10%
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My container has no figures, I mix up at 15% because Jeff the God told me to ;D
I may go down to 10%
Did you mean to say god or something else ;D ;D My opologies Matt, thats a pint I owe you, whats the cheapest a pint of Beer or a pint of ecover ;D ;D
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I'll take the Ecover mate, it lines ur pockets ;D
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I'll take the Ecover mate, it lines ur pockets ;D
And you don't have to work to hard for it Lol
Have a look on the back were is shows the little man using his pressure washer, it should give you the figure there
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I'll look in the morning mate, cheers.
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Please do, or I'll think I'm going even madder than I am ;D
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I'm absolutely gutted????
I went and did a conservatory roof today and it was a real green one, but I forgot my camera :'( :'( when I got home the boss said why didn't you use your phone to take the pictures?... DOH!
I did a small test with ecover and this is what I did after setting my gear up.
I sprayed 3 panels and bars with ecover, left it a couple of minutes and then began to wash it with my carwash brush and custy's tap water, it was like the green had just been spilt on there and washed of both the panel and the bars with great ease.
Once I had finished the three panels I tried to wash the next panel without ecover, I could see it was coming off but it involved a lot of scrubbing the bar was a different story? That needed more and more scrubbing to clean it. To do a whole roof without ecover, I would still be there now.
The lady wanted the finials and the trim cleaned, I explained that's all part of the service, Again I sprayed the trim and finials with ecover and left a couple of minutes, I always use my pole and pure water for this work and the only reason I use my wfp is because you need a lighter brush, if your brush is too heavy, you stand a chance of dislodging or knocking the trim or finial off completely, with a lighter brush you can agitate the trim and tickle the finial ;D and they come up like new in no time.
When the Job was complete I called out the custy to inspect it, I even get them to have a look from the bedroom so they can look down on the work I have Just done, all the guttering was also done and I had a £10 tip for a Job well done.
I will never use anything else other than ecover and I'm NOT getting freebie's from Alex Gardiner to sell the product, I'm pushing it because I know its an excellent product that can be used around plants and fishponds with no worries.