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Title: Window cleaner wage
Post by: seandyer2003 on September 09, 2008, 06:41:46 pm
Just read this on BWCA website, hope too many people dont read it, everyone will start window cleaning!!

How Much Does a Window Cleaner Earn?
The amount a window cleaner is able to earn is dependent on many different
factors, such as location, how fast they are able to work, their
pricing structure and so on.

It is therefore difficult to give an accurate level of
earnings. However, it would be fair to say that
£20-£30 per hour is a generally conservative
estimate for a domestic window cleaner.

To illustrate, an average charge for a 4 bedroom
house is about £20, and an experienced window
cleaner would be able to complete it in approximately
25 minutes (including setting-up time). There will be
time spent travelling (which obviously depends on the
individual round), but almost all window cleaners using
reach & wash systems are able to quite comfortably turn
over at least £200 per day.

Unlike most businesses, window cleaning has extremely low
overhead costs and so almost all of the cash earned can be
drawn as income. Proper business planning, as with any
venture, is very important and there is more guidance on this
in our start up guide (use the form below to request it)
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: AJ on September 09, 2008, 06:59:34 pm
 minus expenses
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: pdale on September 09, 2008, 07:20:55 pm
Then of course, there's the weather.

Paul
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on September 09, 2008, 07:36:55 pm
nobody around here earns £200 a day or gets £20 for a 4 bed house,
same here
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: ftp on September 09, 2008, 07:46:01 pm
£20 for a four bed is going some round my area too- fifteen with the conservatory sides is reasonable. I don't think many are on £50k in my area, if they are then they dress down and deliberately live in small houses and buy scrap cars!
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: AJ on September 10, 2008, 02:00:22 pm
TURN OVER £200 p/d.

200 -17.5% vat= 165
165 - 20% tax  = 128
128 - 10 fuel     = 118
118 - phone, clothing, advertising, van payment, van repair, road tax, insurance, PL insurnace, accountant, wfp maintenance, tools, PPE, HSE signs, water bill, leccy bill, office,+++etc etc etc, all comes to about
£17.35 take home per day - sounds right to me. ;D
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: ronnie paton on September 10, 2008, 04:37:54 pm
why would you pay vat?????

200 a day does not exceed the vat threshold.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: NWH on September 10, 2008, 04:44:17 pm
200 a day i`m sorry but i`m not taking that kind of pay drop from anyone lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: gsw on September 10, 2008, 04:56:35 pm
BWCA = ionic systems

they are bound to big up the earnings so they can sell more systems at hugely inflated costs and therefore continue on their road to world domination

i rest my case your honour!
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: NWH on September 10, 2008, 04:59:46 pm
To be honest there`s nothing that they`ve put in print that is a lie when it comes to earnings,there systems are pricey but that`s it.Everything they`ve ever said about possible earnings is true and acheivable.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: Steve CM on September 10, 2008, 05:06:30 pm
Everything they`ve ever said about possible earnings is true and acheivable.

and then some.... ;)
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: AJ on September 10, 2008, 05:14:08 pm
why would you pay vat?????

200 a day does not exceed the vat threshold.
you pay out vat, so its nice to get it back.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: ronnie paton on September 10, 2008, 05:19:43 pm
why would you pay vat?????

200 a day does not exceed the vat threshold.
you pay out vat, so its nice to get it back.

you dont pay out much vat, and the down side is residentail customers wont want to take the hit and never will resident assoc(for blocks of flats and sheltered hosing schemes).

So unless you earn over £67,000 being vat reg doesnt make sense, 200 a day equals £52, 000 without holidays!
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: AJ on September 10, 2008, 06:18:49 pm
granted, residential won't but housing and res associations do.
so you are going to limit your turnover to £66999.
if you are doing your 200 a day, it only takes one good account to take you over the limit, what do you say to your residentials at that point?
btw, i don't do residential.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: seandyer2003 on September 10, 2008, 06:38:06 pm
BWCA = ionic systems

they are bound to big up the earnings so they can sell more systems at hugely inflated costs and therefore continue on their road to world domination

i rest my case your honour!

Guess where the link to that extract was from......you guessed it Ionics website lol:)
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: AJ on September 10, 2008, 06:54:07 pm
TURN OVER £200 p/d.

200 -17.5% vat= 165
165 - 20% tax  = 128
128 - 10 fuel     = 118
118 - phone, clothing, advertising, van payment, van repair, road tax, insurance, PL insurnace, accountant, wfp maintenance, tools, PPE, HSE signs, water bill, leccy bill, office,+++etc etc etc, all comes to about
£17.35 take home per day - sounds right to me. ;D

that was a load of bull

of course it was.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: AJ on September 10, 2008, 06:54:55 pm
i mean,

of course it was.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: ronnie paton on September 10, 2008, 07:04:17 pm
aj if me a non vat paying company charges gayboy managemnet company 100 for cleaning some flats for a res assosfor 6 months and then goes vat reg and charge them 100 +vat then the management company have to take the hit has the res assoc are a non profit org and dont pay vat.

they will not be happy with taking this hit cause that would prob be there profit from the window cleaning gone!!
am i wrong??
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: ronnie paton on September 10, 2008, 07:05:52 pm
also aj i didnt say i wanted to keep my turnover less than 67,000 but why pay vat till you need to??? if you turnover 52000 i dont think it makes sense to have the problems vat brings.This is my point.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: djrichard on September 10, 2008, 10:42:52 pm
VAT? what a stupid idea to pay that, and who would actually claim they earn even £52000 a year? let alone the vat threshold. Window cleaning is a cash business. The goverment rip's enough people off and pes the tax payers money up the wall
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: Joe Lauzon on September 11, 2008, 04:52:13 pm
I'm sure there are plenty of one man band window cleaners on 52k or more in London.  Much higher living costs, and thus prices.  If I could charge 30% more I would be on 52k.  I think London prices would be at least that?
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: NWH on September 11, 2008, 04:53:58 pm
VAT? what a stupid idea to pay that, and who would actually claim they earn even £52000 a year? let alone the vat threshold. Window cleaning is a cash business. The goverment rip's enough people off and pes the tax payers money up the wall
WC is a cash business! not anymore it`s not i wish it was,what planet are you currently cleaning window`s on.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: Joe Lauzon on September 11, 2008, 04:56:56 pm
VAT? what a stupid idea to pay that, and who would actually claim they earn even £52000 a year? let alone the vat threshold. Window cleaning is a cash business. The goverment rip's enough people off and pes the tax payers money up the wall
WC is a cash business! not anymore it`s not i wish it was,what planet are you currently cleaning window`s on.


Totally agree NWH.  Once you start making good money its not a cash business at all.  You will simply have to waste the money, because most things you will want to spend the money on will be traced.  Once you have your house up together, it pointless trying to cheat the system, you will get caught or end up wasting the money.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: WCE on September 11, 2008, 05:00:13 pm
granted, residential won't but housing and res associations do.
so you are going to limit your turnover to £66999.
if you are doing your 200 a day, it only takes one good account to take you over the limit, what do you say to your residentials at that point?
btw, i don't do residential.
No If you have a partner ie mrs then what you do is register a business in their name and become work for that. The residential is hers the commercial (your business) Yours. That way you can avoid vat on residential customers!
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: NWH on September 11, 2008, 05:00:22 pm
If you earn a very good living from cleaning windows you only need 1 good contract to push you over the VAT limit,that`s all it takes.Try and get the Mrs on board ie get her to start up a cleaning business or all of a sudden she might become a WC overnight,that should keep you under the VAT limit lol.
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: tompoole on September 13, 2008, 07:44:29 am
yes you can take £200 a day but its exactly that your takings not your wages. take out all your expense and again yes you are taking a good wage if you are one man band but [please remember it you will earn more than the average employed joe, because your doing the lot marketing bookkeeping selling and all the admin. if you employ a cleaner to just clean how much would you pay them about £50/£80 aday? remember why you earn on average 100/250 aday its because you are doing it all just like any other business if you do it all you will earn alot more  the window cleaning bus is only special because every one has windows and is a potential customer

tom
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: Tim82 on September 13, 2008, 10:32:08 am

but almost all window cleaners using
reach & wash systems are able to quite comfortably turn
over at least £200 per day.

 Quite comfortably! Yeah right! If you call sweating blood comfotable!
Title: Re: Window cleaner wage
Post by: Tim82 on September 13, 2008, 10:33:16 am
nobody around here earns £200 a day or gets £20 for a 4 bed house,
same here


same HERE!