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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Alex Gardiner on September 07, 2008, 04:56:24 pm
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Just wondering if any of you know the answer to this:
What is the maximum payload of the older model (pre 06) Dispatch/Expert/Scudo? I know there is an 815kg and 900kg version, I couldn't remember if they had made a bigger payload version.
Many thanks.
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I had an 815kg but if you look on the chassis plate it gives you max gross weight(vehicle + load) and unladen weight (vehicle only)...
Take one away from the other and you get your gross payload which on the 815kg is in fact 1000 kg. Not a lot of people know that ;)
I'm not sure what the 900kg version would be, but that is the biggest.
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Depends which engine it's got 2l hdi is the 900kg version whereas the 1.9 turbo is the lesser one.
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Thanks very much for the prompt answers.
So in other words if I were to take the vehicle to a weighbridge the payload allowance would be higher than the advertised figure. This fits in with something else I had heard about one of them having a 1200kg payload (this was before the new version was released).
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I have these figures on my 2l but don't really understand them. ?
2330kg
3630kg
1) 1230kg
2)1300kg
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To add to the confusion my handbook lists the following payloads:
2 litre 16v - 815kg
1.9 litre Deisel - 815kg
2 litre turbo hdi 95hp - 815/900
2 litre turbo hdi 110 hp - 900kg
2 litre turbo hdi 16v - 815kg
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I have these figures on my 2l but don't really understand them. ?
2330kg
3630kg
1) 1230kg
2)1300kg
Not sure exactly what the last 2 figures mean
But the first two: Take the top one (unladen vehicle weight) away from the next one (gross laden weight) then you have your payload.
In your case:
3630kg minus 2330kg = 1300kg = max payload (inc. fuel and driver (chubby))
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Vast difference between the handbook load weights seems odd? Maybe the handbook figures are for the load in the back only and exclude the driver and passengers.
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815 or 900 for the pug
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Here we go - my van 2l hdi turbo 110 bhp:
payload - 900kg
Kerb weight - 1480
Gross vehicle weight - 2330kg
Gross train weight - 3630kg
Unbraked trailer - 740kg
Braked trailer - 1300kg
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Now I'm more confused than before!!
What I have learned is that the 110 hp has the biggest payload. (makes sense really)
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if you are unsure which engine you have they are coded within the vin number - the highest payload 2l 110bhp has RHZB as it's code. I'm also pretty sure that the Fiat version has a slightly higher payload. God knows why.
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I have a Scudo 2.0 JTD and that has the biggest payload which is 900kg. So i would say that the 2.0 HDI would be the same.
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What you thinking Alex, two men, two reels, plus 650l is too much?
The new one with the 1200kg payload is great, but is 14.5k plus vat. My 04 was 7k plus, thats a big difference.
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OK I'm confused now, just been out and looked at my daughters expert and this is what's on the plate
2205kg
3305kg
1-1230kg
2-1230kg
so what weight can it carry?? :'(
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What you thinking Alex, two men, two reels, plus 650l is too much?
The new one with the 1200kg payload is great, but is 14.5k plus vat. My 04 was 7k plus, thats a big difference.
I'm thinking two man, two reels and a custom made flat 600litre tank (which I think 900kg will give me).
I have designed a flat tank that has a sloped internal base, so that the water will always be at the outlet whatever angle the vehicle is parked at.
I cannot warrant a new vehicle for the limited use it will get.
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Mine says
2330kg
3630kg
1 1230
2 1300
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A sloped internal base is clever. Now that you've said it i can see this becoming a standard feature.
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Discount, you must have the 900 payload then. Top figure looks like Gross kerbweight then Gross Train weight (van and trailer?)
The bottom two i'm unsure of.
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What you thinking Alex, two men, two reels, plus 650l is too much?
The new one with the 1200kg payload is great, but is 14.5k plus vat. My 04 was 7k plus, thats a big difference.
I'm thinking two man, two reels and a custom made flat 600litre tank (which I think 900kg will give me).
I have designed a flat tank that has a sloped internal base, so that the water will always be at the outlet whatever angle the vehicle is parked at.
I cannot warrant a new vehicle for the limited use it will get.
would be interested to have a price on that tank Alex, as I am wanting new van in next week or so, and this could open a few more options for me.
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I use to have a 2.0 JTD and that was 900 kg. If the load weight of your vehicle turns out to be 815 Alex, then enquire if you can have the suspension leaf springs uprated to take the 900kg as that's the only real difference as far as I'm aware between the three old versions.
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What have you now Wayne?
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Short wheel base Iveco Daily. Turning circle is smaller than a Scudo and a lot cheaper on insurance. No problems parking it or scaring the holiday makers as I'm driving down the rural country roads ;D
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I have these figures on my 2l but don't really understand them. ?
2330kg
3630kg
1) 1230kg
2)1300kg
Not sure exactly what the last 2 figures mean
But the first two: Take the top one (unladen vehicle weight) away from the next one (gross laden weight) then you have your payload.
In your case:
3630kg minus 2330kg = 1300kg = max payload (inc. fuel and driver (chubby))
if i am wrong i will apologise but.....
i dont think a scudo has a gross weight of 3 and a half tons
at a guess i would say that 3630kg figure is gross train weight and that the 2330 kg is gross weight
i thought a scudo was about 1100kg empty
i dont think these figures add up
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would be interested to have a price on that tank Alex, as I am wanting new van in next week or so, and this could open a few more options for me.
I haven't priced it up exactly but it will not be cheap! I will be allowing about £500 for its construction with a matching hose/bucket tray.
I will then be designing a custom built crash-proof, chassis-friendly frame and restraint system for it. This is much easier to do with a flat tank than an upright one. The tank will only need to be 40cm high.
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Morning All
Thanks again for your input on this - much appreciated.
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Hi
Try again!
Please find copy of Dispatch Specs from What Van mag Oct 2005 for facelift model 2004 onwards.
I hope they don't mind.
The current models have totally different payloads
Spruce
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Got a 910kg and a 920kg payload on that list ??? any advance on 920? Wonder what list they use when you get pulled in?
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Thanks for that Spruce & ftp.