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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Kevin R on September 04, 2008, 07:33:37 pm
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I have tried many different waterproofs over the years but I find I still get wet, if not from the rain then from getting too hot in the waterproof.
Is there such a thing as a truly breathable waterproof that keeps you dry even when working hard?
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I have tried many different waterproofs over the years but I find I still get wet, if not from the rain then from getting too hot in the waterproof.
Is there such a thing as a truly breathable waterproof that keeps you dry even when working hard?
northface or berghaus expensive but keep you cool, gortex
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i always use a gortex one from an army surplus store these are really good and breathable so you dont sweat.
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mine have holes for the pockets right where my trad squeegee bucket used to be so the water would leak straight in!! Ive started wearing work trousers now instead of just the tracksuit pants id wear under waterproofs, but they are really hot after you start working hard for a bit!! I dont like not wearing waterproofs now though...but yeh they are sometimes a bit useless, i wonder why they havent brought out a pair of work pants that are waterproof for window cleaners, instead of putting these plastic things over your pants....
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Sympatex & goretex
Back in the day when they first came out Sympatex had the better material because it was elastic and could stretch an additional 33% but in a Betamax versus VHS advertising programme Sympatex lost out because of marketing - even though it was a better material.
I think with waterproofs it is one or the other of these but they still need to be looked after and cleaned periodically to stop the pores of the membrane clogging up.
The more expensive the better but it is also about what you wear underneath them, layering t shirt that wickes moisture to the outside layer and then a fleece that does the same.
I have a Goretex jacket that is brilliant - £200.00 and a pair of Goretex trousers - £50.00 from T K Maxx
Rob ;D
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Sympatex & goretex
Back in the day when they first came out Sympatex had the better material because it was elastic and could stretch an additional 33% but in a Betamax versus VHS advertising programme Sympatex lost out because of marketing - even though it was a better material.
I think with waterproofs it is one or the other of these but they still need to be looked after and cleaned periodically to stop the pores of the membrane clogging up.
The more expensive the better but it is also about what you wear underneath them, layering t shirt that wickes moisture to the outside layer and then a fleece that does the same.
I have a Goretex jacket that is brilliant - £200.00 and a pair of Goretex trousers - £50.00 from T K Maxx
Rob ;D
£250 is alot though innit, i rip up waterproofs for run on thorn bushes etc..
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Sean
It is a lot of money but we also do a lot of pressure washing and are getting wet from all directions.
I need to be comfortable when working and there is nothing worse than being wet and knowing you have got to stick it out.
I also have Goretex boots for residential work and for pressure washing Goretex Rigger boots. Never had wet feet in two years
I also don't jump around in thorn bushes ;D
Rob ;D
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i use berghaus paclite , extremely breathable and water proof , really light weight, come with stuff sacks, have venting zips on jacket and trousers, i clip stuff sacks to belt- so close at hand to put on quickly , as said best used as outer shell with layers, base and mid , comfortable and dry all day, summer or winter . i also use gortex boots if weather really bad. ;D
daz
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Sean
It is a lot of money but we also do a lot of pressure washing and are getting wet from all directions.
I need to be comfortable when working and there is nothing worse than being wet and knowing you have got to stick it out.
I also have Goretex boots for residential work and for pressure washing Goretex Rigger boots. Never had wet feet in two years
I also don't jump around in thorn bushes ;D
Rob ;D
Its not my favourite pasttime , but i have a few custys who have some wild thorns growing right in front of window aaargh so its a necessity sometimes unfortunately, but they are evil buggers, ive had so many cuts from trying to untangle my leg!!!
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some of the golf waterproof gear is good , try galvin green and sunice
all easy to move in and come with 3 year guarentee's (spelt wrong:)
plus most are breathable
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are goretex boots REALLY waterproof
i have had a real problem finding a pair of boots that STAY waterproof
it was never a problem trad,i used to buy a pair of joncliffe hiking boots every 8 to 10 mths
no problems ;D
but pure water really seems to break down everything else i have tried
is goretex that good ???
at the moment i am waiting for a pair of map bagger boots to arrive at my local angling shop
these are 100% waterproof BUT
not breathable :(
so are goretex boots worth the money and do they stand up to pure water ???
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LJ
No problems to date - My rigger boots though not worn when using pure water have a very visible circular mark on them (this area is all ripped up and distorted) from a turbo nozzle going over the front of the boot and they are still good for a few more months
There is a lot more water thrown at my riggers over an 8 hour day than most window cleaners would drop onto their boots in a year and it is under a lot more pressure.
The right boots are worth their weight in gold and these are brilliant boots. JCB Goretex rigger boots
I have a pair - not worn yet that are more of a ankle boot by JCB - same priciple but lace ups and not so high. I think that for window cleaning they will be perfect but not for pressure washing as the water will get through the lacing area.
Rob ;D
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cheers rob :)
only reason i ask is both me and marcus(norton) have found that a lot of boots sold as "waterproof" dont stay that way very long :(
might just be me but my leading foot (left) gets a fair lot of water on during the day
cant get me head round spending £80 to £100 on work boots tho ;D
spose it makes sense tho....hate wet feet >:(
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Ive had my riggers 18 months now - they were about £75.00 but I will get another 12 months from them - at least.
Thats not expensive!!!
Have a look at some of the walking boots but again you have got to keep em clean and nourish them etc and they will last you for years
Good luck
Rob ;D
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Merrell or North Face are the best and will last,to be waterproof they have to have a Gortex logo on the ankle part of the boot-shoe.If they don`t have it there not waterproof and if your not careful you can get caught out,Debenhams has Merrell shoes in there stores and there half the price of the Gortex ones you get in Blacks,the give away why there so cheap is that they have no Gortex tag on the heel which of course means there not waterproof.
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Working with water alday like we do i would spray them with waterproofer every month instead of the 6 months recommended,evry 6 months for us is not enough i find with them.
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dewalt challenger 2, waterproof, steel toe and like walking in pillows!!! bloody comfortable! used to wear timberlands but they just didnt stay waterproof after 6 months.
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cheers rob :)
only reason i ask is both me and marcus(norton) have found that a lot of boots sold as "waterproof" dont stay that way very long :(
might just be me but my leading foot (left) gets a fair lot of water on during the day
cant get me head round spending £80 to £100 on work boots tho ;D
spose it makes sense tho....hate wet feet >:(
I've had several pairs of goretex and other waterproof footwear over the years and have found that £80 is the starting point for a very good quality boot.
Also had cheaper which works for a while but eventually gets wet.
They last longer if any instructions you get with the footwear are followed.
Goretex is a very good product and lasts for ages compared to other similar claims.
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anything that is made for golf
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dont need waterproofs if you dont work in the rain
you dont work very often then?
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yeah im looking for a good pair as got soaked today off up to get some boots at weekend
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used to use brasher gortex leather boots, were good- got 2 winters out of them ,just bought a pair of brasher borgue gtx gortex boots , cordura /suede uppers , vibram sole , look harder wearing than my previous leather boots , wore them together with my berghaus gortex water proofs, on a long weekend trip to lake district last weekend. went into langdale on the monday -weather was awfull , went to the top of the pikes , weather got worse higher i went -side ways rain gales ect, crossing water falls up to ankle length, stayed ompletley dry and comfortable, so using with wfp will be a breeze ;D.one tip if you are going to spend a lot of money on boots, £109.99 in my case , is go to a walking /out door shop ,and get them fitted properly, as you will probably need to go up a size from what you normally wear .
daz