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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tim82 on September 01, 2008, 12:39:07 pm
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I use a trolley system which has a 25 litre tank and I carry round a spare 25 litre container incase there are no taps. I am looking into getting a baffled tank to put in the back of my estate. maybe 250 capacity? I loose track of how many times I fill up in a day as I top up the containers every few houses or so.
Just wondering how much water everyone uses per day?
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we use 200 litres a day for upstairs only, 8 barrels with the freedom trolley and we have never run out
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Thanks for your quick response. Know any where to get a cheap baffled tank? All I can find is at least £100
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no worries.... i got mine from purefreedom, i dont think you will get a baffled 250 for less than £100 but i might be wrong, i paid over £100 for mine... i just get jerry cans full and take them with me.. works for me.
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I seem to be using 15/20 litres per 3/4 bed semi-detached - but I'm sure I could get away with using less. I just don't want to risk getting any complaints/losing any customers.
Mike
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I seem to be using 20 litres per 3 bed semi-detached - but I'm sure I could get away with using less. I just don't want to risk getting any complaints/losing any customers.
Mike
thats madness, i use a barrel an hour and get the upstairs done on about 8 3 bed semi (minimum)..
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I know it's madness - but I can't stop myself!
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100L/day max, glass only.
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I know it's madness - but I can't stop myself!
its not needed i would find with that i would completely drench everything and dirty water would drip down the walls.. my work is based 2 weekly so i really just need to tickle the windows for a good job..
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we use approx 3000ltr of water per day split over 5 vans.
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I take 200 litres with me, however since I started using a trigger on the pole that 200 litres go a good deal further.
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ive got a 500ltr van mount and use about 400ltrs on a full 8hr day
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VAN mount
two off us use 600ltrs a day or there abouts
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done a school last week, used an 800l tank on my own , filling up as i used it for half the time I was there.
every day for 4 days.
thats defo my personal best/worst.
wouldn't want to do it again.
if only they maintained them properly, it was a proper state. full power all day just just to get through the filth.
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650L 2 men per day run out once or twice doing new cleans
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I used 400 ltrs today on 16 detached houses, 5 with conservatory and 3 were 3 storey.
Took me 8 hours non stop.
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I used 400 ltrs today on 16 detached houses, 5 with conservatory and 3 were 3 storey.
Took me 8 hours non stop.
so you aree saying you use less that a litre a min ::)
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8 hours time includes moving from house to house etc. I tend to turn the pump off when the poles in the back of the van.
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125 - 150 L a day
now using it on more than half downstairs aswell
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125 - 150 L a day
now using it on more than half downstairs aswell
I would love to see you working Matt
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Depending on the area I get through anything from 150L to 300L.
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Depending on the area I get through anything from 150L to 300L.
how many houses is that Rog lets say standard 8 window houses 1 side one opener and one lower from that 2 doors how many litres would you use doing say 30 of them in a day ? same goes for matt
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125 - 150 L a day
now using it on more than half downstairs aswell
I would love to see you working Matt
so would half my customers and my wife ;)
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On a slow day about 200 ltrs on a heavy day about 400 ltrs have once used more
today was a long day and i still only used just under 300 ltrs
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Depending on the area I get through anything from 150L to 300L.
how many houses is that Rog lets say standard 8 window houses 1 side one opener and one lower from that 2 doors how many litres would you use doing say 30 of them in a day ? same goes for matt
i couldnt do 30 in 1 day though ian,
today ive done 14 houses ( 3 or 4 bed semi's and detached ) 2 had conservetries
i worked from 9.30 till just gone 4.00 with about 10 mins when it rained, i spent about 20 mins in total chatting to 3 customers
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does anybody do terraced houses on here aswell as detached and semi detached or is it just me because we get around over hundred houses a day (mixture of all types of houses)
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I did 18 semi's 7 with cons, used 200ltrs and I WFP'd everything.
I worked with a higher than normal flow rate too.
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Normally 450-500litres. On a very busy day like today, 600litres. I graft when the weather is dry so I can afford days off when it's raining if I choose to as I'm not a lover of getting wet at the start of a day. If I'm out when it starts raining I'll come home when it's time to wring my socks out :)
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Depending on the area I get through anything from 150L to 300L.
how many houses is that Rog lets say standard 8 window houses 1 side one opener and one lower from that 2 doors how many litres would you use doing say 30 of them in a day ? same goes for matt
Some days I do 4 big houses, some days 15 or so smaller ones.
30 houses? Ain't enough hours in de day brother. :o
Some days are mainly simple bungalows, so unless there's a complicated conservatory or they're leaded or georgian, then the wfp doesn't even come out the van.
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19 houses today and about 400 litres and thats about average regards alan
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16 houses on monday. Mostly detatched, but a few semi and council terrace.
Used approx 350 litres. 5 hours work with travel in between.
This is with a van mount. Used to do the same with a trolley and 250 litres but took 7+ hours.
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1200 ltrs a day 2 vans - sometimes a little less sometimes a little more.
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In the last 46 working days including half days...I have used 11,536 litres working out at 250 litres a day (aprox)
Highest use 421 litres, lowest 58 litres.
Cheers
Dave.
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Approx 1000 litres a day 2 vans.
Domestic & Commercial
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Normally about 300 - 400 litres a day,.. but on a big contract I've used over 900 litres in a (13 hour) day.
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Depending on the area I get through anything from 150L to 300L.
how many houses is that Rog lets say standard 8 window houses 1 side one opener and one lower from that 2 doors how many litres would you use doing say 30 of them in a day ? same goes for matt
i couldnt do 30 in 1 day though ian,
today ive done 14 houses ( 3 or 4 bed semi's and detached ) 2 had conservetries
i worked from 9.30 till just gone 4.00 with about 10 mins when it rained, i spent about 20 mins in total chatting to 3 customers
So I take it you weren't being serious the other day when you said you earn £500 a day with relative ease!
(Unless you're charging around £36 per 3/4 bed semi)
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250 lt ish
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Cool, I was surprised how many replies we have this morning..... so it looks like generally most people are using about 250 - 300 litres? Right, I'm the water tax officer, pay up!(only joking ;D)
So I would be better getting a 250 instead of 100 for the boot of my estate? I'd imagine I'd need it secured otherwise right? Well, I'm gonna count how many times I fill up today and see how much I'm using!
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Cool, I was surprised how many replies we have this morning..... so it looks like generally most people are using about 250 - 300 litres? Right, I'm the water tax officer, pay up!(only joking ;D)
So I would be better getting a 250 instead of 100 for the boot of my estate? I'd imagine I'd need it secured otherwise right? Well, I'm gonna count how many times I fill up today and see how much I'm using!
Sell your estate and get a van.
Wfp systems in estates should be banned lol
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Its always nice to have have spare capacity within the tank...having a 500litre tanks does not mean you need to fill it...but I started with a 250 litre and wished I had bought the larger tank straight away.
Cheers
Dave.
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200-250 litres on average
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I take 200 litres with me, however since I started using a trigger on the pole that 200 litres go a good deal further.
Can you attatch the triggers to any pole? How do they work?
Thanks,
Dean.
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I take 200 litres with me, however since I started using a trigger on the pole that 200 litres go a good deal further.
Can you attatch the triggers to any pole? How do they work?
Thanks,
Dean.
Buy one of these :
cgi.ebay.co.uk/Trigger-Valve-Spray-Ideal-for-Water-Fed-Pole-Systems_W0QQitemZ380006720947QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Trigger-Valve-Spray-Ideal-for-Water-Fed-Pole-Systems_W0QQitemZ380006720947QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116)
The black tube goes off, you put your pole hose on there, and at the back you plug a rectus (Ez-snap) connector in, the trigger has got a slot in where you put two tiewraps (zipties, whatever you call them) and then tighten it up, I would recommend a little bit of electrical tape wrapped around the pole under it, so it doesn't slip easily.
Job done, it's fantastic, the only proper way to control your water flow.
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I take 200 litres with me, however since I started using a trigger on the pole that 200 litres go a good deal further.
Can you attatch the triggers to any pole? How do they work?
Thanks,
Dean.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58183.0;id=10452;image)
Photo courtesy of M & C Cleaning Services
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All that to save about 2 pints worth of water lol. ;D ;D
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the triggers do help save quite a bit of water but the problem is the loop of hose that follows you around - I was tripping over it all the time so I stopped using the trigger and reverted back.
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i was just wondering do you think you could get some sort of remote/radio controlled switch on your belt that sends a signal to your flow master to turn it off instead of waiting for the preasure to build up and then loosing a pint when you turn your tap back on...
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www.essentiallypure.co.uk
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that looks cool, does it work exactly the same as the flow master but remote control and do you think its about the same size as the flow master???
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Sell your estate and get a van.
Wfp systems in estates should be banned lol
Well that didnt exactly answer my question but thanks for trying ;D
At the moment I couldnt afford a van aswell as my family car. My estate doubles as work car and family car (need it for weekend /shopping holidays etc) Also I use a trolley system (it's simply the best alternative for the kind of work I've got) But would like to install a baffled tank for when I'm doing my bitty work and maybe for refilling. I wouldnt rule out getting a van in the future tho.
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Its always nice to have have spare capacity within the tank...having a 500litre tanks does not mean you need to fill it...but I started with a 250 litre and wished I had bought the larger tank straight away.
Cheers
Dave.
Reading another post (glad I did) what concerns me about getting a larger tank in the car (a peugeot 406 T reg) is: Would the weight of the water of a 250 or 500 litre tank effect the steering/brakes/suspension and would it be unsafe not being bolted down if it was in the boot?
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All that to save about 2 pints worth of water lol. ;D ;D
I reckon I save AT LEAST 10-15%.
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You would be overloading your car with 250ltr tank + all the other gear.
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Its always nice to have have spare capacity within the tank...having a 500litre tanks does not mean you need to fill it...but I started with a 250 litre and wished I had bought the larger tank straight away.
Cheers
Dave.
Reading another post (glad I did) what concerns me about getting a larger tank in the car (a peugeot 406 T reg) is: Would the weight of the water of a 250 or 500 litre tank effect the steering/brakes/suspension and would it be unsafe not being bolted down if it was in the boot?
1/2 a tonne of water sloshing around in the boot?
Ask your insurance company, see what they reckon.
Steering, you wont have any.
Brakes, that'd be interesting.
Suspension, equally interesting, have you got a camera and are you fully comp?
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Its always nice to have have spare capacity within the tank...having a 500litre tanks does not mean you need to fill it...but I started with a 250 litre and wished I had bought the larger tank straight away.
Cheers
Dave.
Reading another post (glad I did) what concerns me about getting a larger tank in the car (a peugeot 406 T reg) is: Would the weight of the water of a 250 or 500 litre tank effect the steering/brakes/suspension and would it be unsafe not being bolted down if it was in the boot?
1/2 a tonne of water sloshing around in the boot?
Ask your insurance company, see what they reckon.
Steering, you wont have any.
Brakes, that'd be interesting.
Suspension, equally interesting, have you got a camera and are you fully comp?
Soooo... what are you trying to tell me Matt? ;D Seriously thanks for your advice though!
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Do you think an estate could cope with a smaller tank? 100 litres?
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Maybe a 100ltrs, but you need to check the pay load of your car to asitain your max weight.
Dont forget to include your gear in with the weight of a full tank as well.
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Another thing to look at is the actual dimentions of the tank you are going to fit.
Weather you need an upright or a flat tank.
Will it fit sideways into the car or will it have to be lengthways.
Another thing to consider is what happens to spilage. You will need to protect your car from this.
A waterproof sheet will be ok but a ground sheet much better.
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I take 200 litres with me, however since I started using a trigger on the pole that 200 litres go a good deal further.
Can you attatch the triggers to any pole? How do they work?
Thanks,
Dean.
Photo courtesy of M & C Cleaning Services
Does anyone else use these triggers from Wintecs.co.uk?
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So would Mrs Matt! ;D
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I use a trolley system which has a 25 litre tank and I carry round a spare 25 litre container incase there are no taps. I am looking into getting a baffled tank to put in the back of my estate. maybe 250 capacity? I loose track of how many times I fill up in a day as I top up the containers every few houses or so.
Just wondering how much water everyone uses per day?
Tim, how do you fill your container up during the day - do you have a di joined to it?
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I use a trolley system which has a 25 litre tank and I carry round a spare 25 litre container incase there are no taps. I am looking into getting a baffled tank to put in the back of my estate. maybe 250 capacity? I loose track of how many times I fill up in a day as I top up the containers every few houses or so.
Just wondering how much water everyone uses per day?
Tim, how do you fill your container up during the day - do you have a di joined to it?
yep. got a resin tank on back of trolley so have purified water on demand. I just top up when i need to from customers taps. Works for me.
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Here's a photo:
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if a car has seats for 2 in the back and another in the front, then i would have thought that to be road legal each seat in the car must be able to carry a human of 80kgs or more??
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if a car has seats for 2 in the back and another in the front, then i would have thought that to be road legal each seat in the car must be able to carry a human of 80kgs or more??
So that would mean I should be able to carry 240 litres at least, right? Maybe I could put a person shaped 80 litre tank on each seat? Would that be safer? ;D
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Would they have to be obesed shaped tanks?
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So does that mean that a car seat is designed to carry 13 and a half stone each?(I've been doing my homework. ::)) I would have guessed they'd be designed to carry more, like on a plane where they account for the weight of extremely obese people(which really bugs me when I'm half the weight and I dont get to take more bags on!).
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The most I ever put in my Vauxhall Cav was 175 litres. I'd say you need to be very careful if you are considering carrying 240 litres. I got round the weight issue by buying a 15 litre DI vessel and if I needed more water when I was away from home I made it with a custys outside tap.
However, Id imagine and wouldnt be prepared to put it to the test that 240 litres of water will have different physical characteristics than 2 fat blokes sat in the back of your car, going round roundabouts will be a nightmare let alone anything else.
I was going to try to elaborate how I understand it, but basically I think 240 litres of water is going to be bloody hard to drive with, safely, by comparison to a couple of people.
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True. I'd probably just fit a smaller tank anyway for space reasons. Sounds like you ford transit guys have more to worry about when driving than us trolley guys.
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And if you had an accident, well...........you know what insurance companies are like.
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I use about 10 ltrs a day.....Trad :D (sorry, couldnt resist it!)
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Hi Tim82. I used to use my mondeo hatch when I used ladders and traditional cleaning, but when I went wfp I felt I ought to have a van. I only have a 125 ltr tank, but then I only do about 8 houses a day. I chose a Nissan Vanette which suits me fine as I need space to carry other things in the van. But the down side is I now need to get a permit if I need to go to the council tip (and I have to tell them exactly what i am going to tip). They will only issue one a month. Secondly this van only has two seats, so if your car is for more than just you and your partner, you may have to put extra seats in the van (and tell the insurance company that it is now a crew cab) or buy a MPV and black out the rear windows to make it a van, which is most probably what I will do next time I change my vehicle. Which will get over both of these problems. Possible a Nissan Serrina. Im also in the Fylde.
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In reply to BWoofie. When I have traditional days, I put my soapy water straight into the applicator holder from an old milk bottle container. Then throw the dirty water away after each house , that way I dont need a bucket and never use anything but clean water on each house. I use about 2 litres a day that way, or about 125 litres with the pole. Although I like using a pole on high aukward windows, I still like trad once in a while.
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200lts aday
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bwoofie how much water does your washing machine use to clean your dirty cloths , you might find you use a similar amount of water as wfp regards alan