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Title: Tax Revolt
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 12:15:27 am
The Professional Contractors Group has made a stinging attack on the UK's tax system. It claims that small business owners are so unhappy with the inconsistency and uncertainty that many may soon chose to refuse to not comply with their legal obligations. Is this something you're considering? What do you think about the state of the tax regime? Vote in the poll above and add your comments below.
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: simon123 on August 31, 2008, 12:17:14 am
Two things certain in life . . . . . Death and taxes !
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: geefree on August 31, 2008, 12:38:09 am
me too  ;)
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: simon123 on August 31, 2008, 12:52:38 am
I have a good accountant , and he is charted !
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: geefree on August 31, 2008, 12:53:26 am
like an plane  :D
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Wayne Thomas on August 31, 2008, 01:25:05 am
Two things certain in life . . . . . Death and taxes !



You are joking, I can think of a hundred easy.

 ;D ;D ;D

Can you list them, I'm interested in 'certainties of life'  ::)
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Sir Squeaky on August 31, 2008, 02:38:25 am
I agree with the title.

Tax is revolting.
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Moderator David@stives on August 31, 2008, 08:59:07 am
Tax just has to be factored in with your prices.

Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Paul Coleman on August 31, 2008, 11:22:08 am
The Professional Contractors Group has made a stinging attack on the UK's tax system. It claims that small business owners are so unhappy with the inconsistency and uncertainty that many may soon chose to refuse to not comply with their legal obligations. Is this something you're considering? What do you think about the state of the tax regime? Vote in the poll above and add your comments below.


I accept that taxation is a necessity if we are going to live in a society that has some degree of compassion.  I dislike some of the things the money is spent on but I believe that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.
Having said that, IMO it is very wrong that someone has to start paying income tax as soon as they pass an income of about £5,000 - especially when you consider that many do not qualify for selective rebate schemes.  Higher up the scale, IMO it is also wrong that more enterprising people are often discouraged from expanding their businesses by VAT, the 40% tax rate (though much improved from the 1970s), and more recently, the cessation of a ceiling in NI contributions. 
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 11:34:48 am
The Professional Contractors Group has made a stinging attack on the UK's tax system. It claims that small business owners are so unhappy with the inconsistency and uncertainty that many may soon chose to refuse to not comply with their legal obligations. Is this something you're considering? What do you think about the state of the tax regime? Vote in the poll above and add your comments below.


I accept that taxation is a necessity if we are going to live in a society that has some degree of compassion.  I dislike some of the things the money is spent on but I believe that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.

Are you kidding me or what: £40 billion on 3 new super carriers to wage war and its not for national security either, its a "mess with us statement and we will flaten you" what about the housing crisis (Gordon the Moron)
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 11:36:19 am
The Professional Contractors Group has made a stinging attack on the UK's tax system. It claims that small business owners are so unhappy with the inconsistency and uncertainty that many may soon chose to refuse to not comply with their legal obligations. Is this something you're considering? What do you think about the state of the tax regime? Vote in the poll above and add your comments below.


I accept that taxation is a necessity if we are going to live in a society that has some degree of compassion.  I dislike some of the things the money is spent on but I believe that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.

Are you kidding me or what: £40 billion on 3 new super carriers to wage war and its not for national security either, weve got nukes for that, its a "mess with us statement and we will flaten you" what about the housing crisis (Gordon the Moron)
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Paul Coleman on August 31, 2008, 12:03:06 pm
The Professional Contractors Group has made a stinging attack on the UK's tax system. It claims that small business owners are so unhappy with the inconsistency and uncertainty that many may soon chose to refuse to not comply with their legal obligations. Is this something you're considering? What do you think about the state of the tax regime? Vote in the poll above and add your comments below.


I accept that taxation is a necessity if we are going to live in a society that has some degree of compassion.  I dislike some of the things the money is spent on but I believe that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.

Are you kidding me or what: £40 billion on 3 new super carriers to wage war and its not for national security either, its a "mess with us statement and we will flaten you" what about the housing crisis (Gordon the Moron)

Those are precisely the type of things I dislike the tax money being spent on too.  The advantages I referred to were more about preventing the return of Dickensian times.  Personally I would prefer to pay tax and have orphaned kids fed and generally looked after rather than them scavenging on thew streets picking pockets (á lá Oliver Twist) or, as has been done in Brazil, murdering them.  Of course, the flip side of that is that the weapons you describe can create orphans elsewhere.  Seems to me like someone in power decides that it's OK for kids to be orphaned so long as it's not in our own back yards.
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: DASERVICES on August 31, 2008, 12:17:38 pm
I think the tax threshold should be higher for sole traders, there is no encouragement from the government for you to invest and grow your business.
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Sir Squeaky on August 31, 2008, 12:29:12 pm
I think the tax threshold should be higher for sole traders, there is no encouragement from the government for you to invest and grow your business.
So Doug, are you saying that if I employed someone I'd have to pay more tax on my my turnover, regardless of any extra taken from the employee?:o

How's that fair?
Sod that thought then. ::)
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Paul Coleman on August 31, 2008, 12:36:45 pm
I think the tax threshold should be higher for sole traders, there is no encouragement from the government for you to invest and grow your business.

I think maybe the threshhold should be higher for everyone.
However, perhaps there is a case for it being lower or non-existent for very high earners as the extra tax paid would be a smallish amount compared to total income (when NI and 40% tax are factored in the yearly bill would be about £2,500 more if totally abolished for very high earners).  The drawback to this is that the tax threshhold is set before the annual figures are known.
Basically, what I'm saying is that everyone else should be taxed a bit more so that I can be taxed a bit less   :)  .
I see a poll has been added.  I feel that non compliance would be a step too far.  It would have to get a lot worse before I would consider that when you bear in mind that the state could bankrupt you and make you homeless with great ease.
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: matt on August 31, 2008, 01:42:34 pm
you earn money, you pay tax

isnt that life

im sure we have had revolts before, most do not work
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 02:02:25 pm
I dont mind paying my taxes, there just seems to be no let up on the tax this and tax that regime we are taxed on almost everything we do.

One stupid politician even came up with the idea of taxing us to park our cars on our drives and I think hes still at No.10.

Thats the problem with this country we take it all on the chin.

The french on the other hand can kick our buts when trying to keep there government in order.

The fuel goes up for them even just by a couple of pence and they block the ports.

The fuel goes up for us 20p and we sit back thinking it will calm down.

The fuel has been steadily rising along with everything else over the last few years but because it was a little rise nobody realy took any notice, apart form the futile attempts of the lorry drivers, Now that we are in the midst of huge hikes and more to come we are all pleading povity. We have only got our selves to blame after all we voted in labour.

We are all in for hard times even if people think the government are scare mongoring and its not as bad as they say it is.

There is absolutley no unison in this country our moto seems to be (All for one and all for me)

Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: dave0123 on August 31, 2008, 02:14:11 pm
labour? so we vote in conservaties who ruined this country in 1970's  ::)
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 02:16:28 pm
conservaties

Never heard of that party my friend ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: dave0123 on August 31, 2008, 02:19:55 pm
Conservatives, i ment
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: simon123 on August 31, 2008, 08:21:42 pm
I dont mind paying lots of Tax  ;D
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: simon123 on August 31, 2008, 08:28:48 pm
the more tax i pay the more happy i am ,must be earning a lot,if it bothers you dont declare all your income


It’s not how much money you make that matters, its how much you keep.

 :P
Ewan you are wasted on here mate !  Most are still using mop n scrims mate ( especialy Gazza ) Use your talent to retire early   ;D
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: matt on August 31, 2008, 08:48:33 pm
labour? so we vote in conservaties who ruined this country in 1970's  ::)


 ;D ;D ;D its beginning to look like that

i guess people have forgotten maggie
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: simon123 on August 31, 2008, 08:53:18 pm
the more tax i pay the more happy i am ,must be earning a lot,if it bothers you dont declare all your income


It’s not how much money you make that matters, its how much you keep.

 :P
Ewan you are wasted on here mate !  Most are still using mop n scrims mate ( especialy Gazza ) Use your talent to retire early   ;D


Common sense, most working families will now earn over one million in there working live, but how much do they have when they retire.

 :P
Mail me Ewan , would like to  correspond mate  ;D
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: Clean Dude on August 31, 2008, 09:27:22 pm
the more tax i pay the more happy i am ,must be earning a lot,if it bothers you dont declare all your income


It’s not how much money you make that matters, its how much you keep.

 :P
Ewan you are wasted on here mate !  Most are still using mop n scrims mate ( especialy Gazza ) Use your talent to retire early   ;D


Common sense, most working families will now earn over one million in there working live, but how much do they have when they retire.

 :P
Mail me Ewan , would like to  correspond mate  ;D

Ewan, do yourself a favour and DON'T get in contact with this guy.

***HIGH MAINTENANCE***

Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: simon123 on August 31, 2008, 09:37:49 pm
the more tax i pay the more happy i am ,must be earning a lot,if it bothers you dont declare all your income


It’s not how much money you make that matters, its how much you keep.

 :P
Ewan you are wasted on here mate !  Most are still using mop n scrims mate ( especialy Gazza ) Use your talent to retire early   ;D


Common sense, most working families will now earn over one million in there working live, but how much do they have when they retire.

 :P
Mail me Ewan , would like to  correspond mate  ;D

Ewan, do yourself a favour and DON'T get in contact with this guy.

***HIGH MAINTENANCE***


Just writting your name down ,so I dont forget  ;D
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: simon123 on August 31, 2008, 10:00:40 pm
the more tax i pay the more happy i am ,must be earning a lot,if it bothers you dont declare all your income


It’s not how much money you make that matters, its how much you keep.

 :P
Ewan you are wasted on here mate !  Most are still using mop n scrims mate ( especialy Gazza ) Use your talent to retire early   ;D


Common sense, most working families will now earn over one million in there working live, but how much do they have when they retire.

 :P
Mail me Ewan , would like to  correspond mate  ;D

Ewan, do yourself a favour and DON'T get in contact with this guy.

***HIGH MAINTENANCE***





Thanks for the tip, clearly he has some personal problems and he does start and ruin some threads for people on here, still possible to post your genuine comments and ignore (if you can) the silly ones.
You have my number Ewan , would be nice to speak to the real person mate ! My phone is ringing non stop !  ;D
Title: Re: Tax Revolt
Post by: tonyoliver on September 03, 2008, 06:39:53 pm
super careriers could do with one of those to flatten my npn payers