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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Roger Slater on August 30, 2008, 11:26:12 pm

Title: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 30, 2008, 11:26:12 pm
Why don't window & carpet cleaners advertise there prices on there websites, well most of them anyway.

Are you frightened of the competition or just paranoid?
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 30, 2008, 11:27:19 pm
how can you,,, when each quote would be different.  ::)
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 30, 2008, 11:39:11 pm
how can you,,, when each quote would be different.  ::)

Simple answer start your price with eg: Windows & Frames cleaned for £8 per month based on a standard 3 bed semi.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Neil Williams on August 30, 2008, 11:43:18 pm
What's a standard 3 bed semi?
Because there's no such thing
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 30, 2008, 11:44:14 pm
i can see your point, but in my town i can get a good price in one area and in another area it is only an acceptable price, therefore i dare not advertise a bottom line, or dont want to....... i would rather someone call me to give them a quote , rather than see my bottom line and phone someone else..... as i would then be able to explain my services would be second to none blah blah blah.... if you see what i mean.


 :D
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 30, 2008, 11:46:00 pm
50p a window, i would go bankrupt. ;)
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 30, 2008, 11:49:24 pm
What's a standard 3 bed semi?
Because there's no such thing

Are you for real matey? Don't make me laugh "FOOL" as mr t would say.

Thats funny because my customers no what one is an you don't.

Standard 3 bed semi with no alterations.

3 beds
1 kitchen
1 lounge
1 dinning room
1 bathroom

what kind of three bed semi's exist in your neck of the woods.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 30, 2008, 11:54:38 pm
i get where you are coming from, but i have standard semis... i have lucrative areas.... standard semis,....

then i have ok areas, standard semis....

then i have poorer areas.... standard semis.

they all are priced differently... but a minimum charge does apply....but only in my mind.... for the poorer areas..

if i advertised my minimum charge....

then the lucrative areas would expect the same as the poorer  araes.

Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 30, 2008, 11:55:43 pm
what about all the new 3 bed semis out there.

Give it a rest people you really are quite silly.

Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 30, 2008, 11:58:01 pm
i get where you are coming from, but i have standard semis... i have lucrative areas.... standard semis,....

then i have ok areas, standard semis....

then i have poorer areas.... standard semis.

they all are priced differently... but a minimum charge does apply....but only in my mind.... for the poorer areas..

if i advertised my minimum charge....

then the lucrative areas would expect the same as the poorer  araes.



Point taken, i only stick to one area so pricing for me is the same across the board and works for me.

I suppose im lucky in that respect.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 30, 2008, 11:59:34 pm
what about all the new 3 bed semis out there.

Give it a rest people you really are quite silly.



the new are priced up accordinlgly..... but they wont neccesarily be the same price as the estate around the corner....


you asked about prices, .. we are giving our opinions, ...and i am sure most people would agree , all semis are not the same....

maybe you think all detached are the same...?????

do you get my point.?

we are not being silly... only trying to help you broaden your scope.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 31, 2008, 12:01:03 am
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Point taken, i only stick to one area so pricing for me is the same across the board and works for me.

I suppose im lucky in that respect.
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ah point taken here too...
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: dave0123 on August 31, 2008, 12:03:02 am
Theres lots of diffrent types of semi's

plus customrs think a 3 bed semi with leaded windows would be 8 quid or what ever for the same as next doors without! because they dont understand till you tell them.

anyway like my house a standard three bed semi no dormer windows or bay windows then you look over the road again 3 bed semi but with dormer windows harder to reach. Then look down the bottom of the road again a 3 bed semi slightly bigger 2 top bay window  1 bottom bay windows etc french doors at the back.

so obv the dormer house and bay window house is going to be more  ???  but there all standard 3 bed semi's specially to the customers eyes.

then of course theres accses around the property? surely? if theres lots of trees and bushes all over the front that going to take longer moving ladders about or poles and hoses etc.

list goes on. Thats my thoughts anyway
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 12:06:30 am
Theres lots of diffrent types of semi's

plus customrs think a 3 bed semi with leaded windows would be 8 quid or what ever for the same as next doors without! because they dont understand till you tell them.

anyway like my house a standard three bed semi no dormer windows or bay windows then you look over the road again 3 bed semi but with dormer windows harder to reach. Then look down the bottom of the road again a 3 bed semi slightly bigger 2 top bay window  1 bottom bay windows etc french doors at the back.

so obv the dormer house and bay window house is going to be more  ???  but there all standard 3 bed semi's specially to the customers eyes.

then of course theres accses around the property? surely? if theres lots of trees and bushes all over the front that going to take longer moving ladders about or poles and hoses etc.

list goes on. Thats my thoughts anyway

Thats seems to be a headache for us because we cant keep our prices transparent.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Oakley Windows on August 31, 2008, 12:08:16 am
Theres also normal friendly windows, then theres georgian, then theres leaded; I also take into consideration access to property, any ladder work necessary amongst other things, gut feeling comes into too....
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 31, 2008, 12:08:23 am
yes... i agree.... but lets keep the world guessing , regarding earnings...

Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 12:11:40 am
yes... i agree.... but lets keep the world guessing , regarding earnings...




Why the big secret is this a tax revolt.

I feel another poll coming on.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 31, 2008, 12:16:10 am
well.... .. do plumbers advertise....

plumber available.... only £50 minimum for average sink installation.

joiner available..... £30 minimum for an average door fit.

electrician....... only £100 for 6 sockets.



you must get the picture now.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Neil Williams on August 31, 2008, 12:20:51 am
Thats funny because my customers no what one is an you don't.

Well for starters I can spell. So FU
Again no such thing as a bulk standard 3 bed. I have lived in numerous 3 bed properties and none have had the same number of windows as any of the others.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 12:24:39 am
Thats funny because my customers no what one is an you don't.

Well for starters I can spell. So FU

ooooooooohhhhh ;D ;D

What an un-academic thing to say, what school did you goto St. Trinians for nancys that had one window lololol ;D
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Neil Williams on August 31, 2008, 12:36:15 am
What school did I go to? What's that got to do with you or anything else?
Too many differernt parts of an equation to give a standard price. Have you considered post code pricing, type of window, access, bay, leaded. The list goes on.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 31, 2008, 12:37:30 am
What school did I go to? What's that got to do with you or anything else?
Too many differernt parts of an equation to give a standard price. Have you considered post code pricing, type of window, access, bay, leaded. The list goes on.

i think you have a post missing above neil
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 12:51:23 am
What school did I go to? What's that got to do with you or anything else?
Too many differernt parts of an equation to give a standard price. Have you considered post code pricing, type of window, access, bay, leaded. The list goes on.

Yeah Yeah matey dont tell your granny how to suck eggs.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: geefree on August 31, 2008, 12:54:14 am
come on guys... are we all workmates or not here  :D ;)
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: karygate on August 31, 2008, 06:28:21 am
what about      nice people deduct 50p  car new  add 75p  . how can you price according to rich or poor. i just look at the windows cos thats all i will be cleaning. anyway the richer they are the tighter they are.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: peter holley on August 31, 2008, 08:53:20 am
i advertise price on my website as £1per window,,,,,,£2 bay window ......then when they call,if they have a lot eg 20 windows i may give a discount.

on my flyers, i put a price on before i post it....on my last leaflet drop, i had a 16% success rate ;)

i alo have a £10 minimum charge...

it works for me :D
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Roger Slater on August 31, 2008, 09:33:51 am
i advertise price on my website as £1per window,,,,,,£2 bay window ......then when they call,if they have a lot eg 20 windows i may give a discount.

on my flyers, i put a price on before i post it....on my last leaflet drop, i had a 16% success rate ;)

i alo have a £10 minimum charge...

it works for me :D

Sounds good 16% success rate, would you mind emailing me a copy strong007@blueyonder.co.uk
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: windowwashers on August 31, 2008, 09:54:47 am
Why don't window & carpet cleaners advertise there prices on there websites, well most of them anyway.

Are you frightened of the competition or just paranoid?
I do advertise price on my site because there are a lot of variables if every house was the same then I could but they are not.

If it works for thats great but for me I cant because I clean many different types of house access to window on some more time consuming than others, access to the back a lot different driving time also. The list really does go on and on and on.

Ian
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Wayne Thomas on August 31, 2008, 11:41:04 am
It's a bit like a customer in the street asking you for a price on their unfamiliar property. Only a fool would rush into giving a committed price before looking at the property.

Too many variables with houses to give an accurate profitable price.

This is why so many window cleaners have low prices as they rush into giving a price on the spot so they won't lose a potential new customer.

Best advice is go and view the property and don't be rushed into giving a low price. Work out your profit price, stick to it, (don't let your fear of not obtaining the customer put you off). Inform them of your desirable price, then (most importantly) keep quiet until they reply. You can always haggle over small differences afterwards, i.e. the price, frequency, extras,etc.
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: Helen on August 31, 2008, 08:35:53 pm
how can you,,, when each quote would be different.  ::)

Simple answer start your price with eg: Windows & Frames cleaned for £8 per month based on a standard 3 bed semi.

Roger, just had a look at your website and it's a good one, but you don't advertise"Windows & Frames cleaned for £8 per month............" you have that little word "from" in front of the price, which is a great word as we all know :) for marketing reasons.
In your faq section you have the question "how much will it cost?" answer... "We can only tell you how much your window cleaning will cost once we have seen the property in question" which is just about the same way that everyone else operates.
Just one thing about your "from prices" on the website, do they include or exclude VAT. I may have missed the part of the website that says that, but if you are VAT registered and advertise prices, I believe that you have to state whether or not VAT is included or not :)
Title: Re: What is everybody frightened of
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on August 31, 2008, 09:13:22 pm
What's a standard 3 bed semi?
Because there's no such thing
agree entirely