Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Sir Squeaky on August 28, 2008, 07:45:04 pm
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I need a new brush, and as I also need lots of new trad gear I'm going to Window Cleaning Warehouse tomorrow to have a browse.
Thought I may as well try a new brush for once.
What's a good scrubber?
Not too pricey, not too heavy?
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If your a Bentley boy then Gardiners new brushes.
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If your a Bentley boy then Gardiners new brushes.
Cheers, but don't think they'll sell them there.
Any others?
People are always going on about brushes and telling me mine's crap.
Where are you now? ???
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Like the bloke in the chinese told me,you don`t rissen lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Like the bloke in the chinese told me,you don`t rissen lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D
I see they have a Vikan brush like this.
www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/index.php/Water-Fed-Pole-Spares/Vikan-Jetted-Brush/Detailed-product-flyer.html
Any good?
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thats all i ever use squeaky.. got 3 on the go.
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squeeky - I have tried lots of brushes, to be honest I prefer the salmon brushes, very light and monfilament,good splay too. However out of all the other brushes I've tried the best of the rest is definitley the mono OVAL vikan - the one without the rubber strip.
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Squeaky do yourself a favor if you buy a vikan makesure it`s the square 1.
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If your coming from a Bentley, steer away from anything that is Vikan, from what I remember you needed something light, especially since your using a superlight as well (?) a Vikan rectangular flocked is a good brush, but generally Vikans are like a pig on a stick, way, way to heavy. Definitely don't get a Monofilament Vikan either, since they are rubbish and bounce around on the glass. Get a Dual Trim Super Lite from Gardiners, you'll definitely like that one, pricey, but good. Trust me on this one.
Don't limit yourself to one shop, ordering off the net is easy.
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the square one? are you nuts??
it has to be the worst brush out of all the brushes I have tried - no sorry, its not the worst but its very close.
I'm with GQC - go for the gardiners brush
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I second that , do yourself a favour and forget wcw get a supalite from you know who, its a very good brush
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If your a Superlite user, Alex might be able to do you a better deal as well, give him a shout. I remember that you don't necessarily want to spend too much on something, so the price tag on the Superlite might be a bit steep, but you should see it as an investment.
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its £35 not £300 - a vikan is £25
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its £35 not £300 - a vikan is £25
True, but however you look at it, it doesn't compare to what money you'll make with it, at the other hand though, it's a lot of money for something that is a brush.
I think it's worth it though, heck a Tucker is £50.
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thats the point I'm trying to make Tim.
£35 ain't gonna break the bank - heck, £100 won't either - its what you work with every day.
does a joiner buy a £9.99 cordless drill from Argos?
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I mainly use vikan brushes.
I like them and can't fault them.
I have other brushes but always go back to the vikan.
I like the sill brushes for upstairs i prefer the mono but both work well.
For down stairs i use a 10" oval vikan as squeeky has shown.
And they last well i have some that are 3 1/2 years old and apart from a bit of scuffing on the edges they work as good as a new brush.
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You must have arms like legs! :o
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I would recomend a superlite brush its my favourite at the moment
Brett
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I would say get the new double trim superlite from gardeners, you won't be able to get it from wcw but why waste your money on something that is only half a brush and be stuck using it until it wears out. The oval vikan brush is ok but heavy compared to what your used to and I feel very awkward to use, especially if you need to have the pole horizontal over a conservatory.
If you get the new one from Gardiners I doubt you'll be disappointed, might take a few days to get used to it, but it's soooo much better. I think the brush is probably the most important piece of equipment in doing a good clean, why compromise.
Simon.
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VIKAN
ive tried a fair few, ive seen all the others
i still think the vikan is the best
if its a little too heavy its easy enough to trim it down a little ( or alot like i have )
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Like the bloke in the chinese told me,you don`t rissen lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D
I see they have a Vikan brush like this.
www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/index.php/Water-Fed-Pole-Spares/Vikan-Jetted-Brush/Detailed-product-flyer.html
Any good?
good brush squeaky ive a couple of weeks ago got 1 from x-line when i went to visit , little tip cut the innner 3 rows in half for better scrubing and remove outer ruber edge .
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Superlite dual trim is great. Rinses on a treat.
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Gardiners are sold out for over 2 weeks.
Can't wait that long.
My brush is shedding bristles like a dog in summer.
I'd rather have a square brush though.
Since mine started splaying all directions it goes too far up the top frame and can drag dirt down when I don't want it to. >:(
Need squeegee rubbers desperately for monday morning anyway, so it'll have to be today.
Hopefully WCW will have more than they show on the website... ???
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I would be very surprised if your gonna like a Vikan Squeeky. :-\
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Gardiners are sold out for over 2 weeks.
Can't wait that long.
My brush is shedding bristles like a dog in summer.
I'd rather have a square brush though.
Since mine started splaying all directions it goes too far up the top frame and can drag dirt down when I don't want it to. >:(
Need squeegee rubbers desperately for monday morning anyway, so it'll have to be today.
Hopefully WCW will have more than they show on the website... ???
Get a cheapo bently from Tesco and convert it yourself.
Not the best brush in the world, but it'll keep you going for 2 weeks till Gardiners have new stock in,...
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Gardiners are sold out for over 2 weeks.
Can't wait that long.
My brush is shedding bristles like a dog in summer.
I'd rather have a square brush though.
Since mine started splaying all directions it goes too far up the top frame and can drag dirt down when I don't want it to. >:(
Need squeegee rubbers desperately for monday morning anyway, so it'll have to be today.
Hopefully WCW will have more than they show on the website... ???
Get a cheapo bently from Tesco and convert it yourself.
Not the best brush in the world, but it'll keep you going for 2 weeks till Gardiners have new stock in,...
I may do that.
As long as I can do the converting without stuffing it up...
a: How do the jets come out of the old brush?
I haven't got any new ones.
b: Do you pull the unwanted bristles out with pliers?
c: Is there a tutorial? ;D
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Squeeks how about a oblong Vikan mono and grind the excess weight off it...?
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Squeeks how about a oblong Vikan mono and grind the excess weight off it...?
Fine...if they sell them... ???
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Did alright after. :)
I looked at the Vikan brushes...too heavy, like having a dead badger on the end.
Looked at white Salmon brushes...nice, but soooo soft, not much scrubbing power and splays too much.
Found a nice black Ionics one they ordered but no-one picked up.
Looked great. Bought it.
Bloke said he thought it was crap, but at £10? Who cares!
Tried it out on my nan's house whilse I was down there, and it's more solid than the Bentley. Did a good job.
Only trouble is the jets were a different size fitment to the hose.
Luckily my Uncle had some silicon modelling hose which stretched on ok.
Happy days.
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Well done mate. A Bargain Bucket Bonanza :D
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Good luck Squeaks with that Ionics, I think you'll need it.
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Too right!
I got an Ettore bucket.
2 strips of squeegee rubber.
A microfibre cloth.
An Ionics brush.
..and the whole lot came to what I budgeted for the brush alone!
Even with £10+ of fuel down there I was quids in!
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Good luck Squeaks with that Ionics, I think you'll need it.
Why?
Everyone raves about Ionics stuff.
Best in the world according to themselves.
Seems people on here will put down your choices whatever you do. ::)
I thought for an uninformed buyer it would be a decent choice...
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Modified vikan flocked rectangular. ;)
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Good luck Squeaks with that Ionics, I think you'll need it.
Why?
Everyone raves about Ionics stuff.
Best in the world according to themselves.
Seems people on here will put down your choices whatever you do. ::)
I thought for an uninformed buyer it would be a decent choice...
Hey that's great, before I went with the Superlite brush, I used that one, it's the straight monofilament right? (Not the Crinkle?) It might feel a bit stiff, but it's a good brush I found, good scrubbing power, good for rinsing on.
You chose well from what you could choose from, very good price as well, they go near the £20 mark.
A lot lighter then a Vikan indeed, like you said, they are like having something heavy and dead on your pole lol.
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i use the vikan mono rec with 4 pencil jets , once its broken in it stops bouncing on the glass and cleans very well and is great for rinsing on , you do need to shave as much as you can off the brush as i can,t deny it is heavy regards alan
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Hey that's great, before I went with the Superlite brush, I used that one, it's the straight monofilament right?
Don't know. I don't know what that means. ;D
But hey, it's this one...
www.windowcleaningsupplies.net/prod_show.asp?id=113
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Squeaky did you get a brush,if not i`ll send you 1.
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Hey that's great, before I went with the Superlite brush, I used that one, it's the straight monofilament right?
Don't know. I don't know what that means. ;D
But hey, it's this one...
www.windowcleaningsupplies.net/prod_show.asp?id=113
Yea that's the one, that's a nice one, I used that one for a while, had no problems cleaning with it, other people use them on here as well, and they got some positive feedback. Im sure you will be happy with it. :)
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£ 27.23 to a tenner, that's great. :D
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Squeaky did you get a brush,if not i`ll send you 1.
Eh? Did you not read the posts above? ;D
Thanks anyway though! ;)
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Forgot to mention about earlier...
I met Foxman who used to post on here, he sold me the brush.
Met a few other clearly rich window cleaners too.
Also I saw one of the Concept20 vans in Cardiff.
Really smart vinyl wrap on the van. Looked really cool.
Interesting day.
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ionics eh
does that mean you can blaze the logo across your van now :P :P :P
if so, you will be set for life by all accounts, wait for the phone to ring off the hook with 100 quid a hour commercial jobs :P :P :P
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i was allmost in barry today seeing my mum, in the end i stayed home and took my daughter to the " team read "
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ionics eh
does that mean you can blaze the logo across your van now :P :P :P
if so, you will be set for life by all accounts, wait for the phone to ring off the hook with 100 quid a hour commercial jobs :P :P :P
Yes, it now means "I am considerably richer than yow!" (in best Brummie accent) ;D
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ionics eh
does that mean you can blaze the logo across your van now :P :P :P
if so, you will be set for life by all accounts, wait for the phone to ring off the hook with 100 quid a hour commercial jobs :P :P :P
Yes, it now means "I am considerably richer than yow!" (in best Brummie accent) ;D
RAOFLMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
steve a
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Is it this brush Squeaks?
(http://www.windowcleaningsupplies.net/images/product/product_full113.jpg)
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its £35 not £300 - a vikan is £25
i dont know where your buying your vikan brushes from?
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Is it this brush Squeaks?
That's the one.
Works well, and I'm sure it's the one Tosh has got, and had for over 2 years.
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Vikan 100% , they are a world leader in brushes, they know what works.
Make sure it is the flocked one, not the mono
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Vikan 100% , they are a world leader in brushes, they know what works.
Make sure it is the flocked one, not the mono
Didn't like it. Way too heavy compared to the others.
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Its heavy, but it does the business, I tried a well known suppliers tooth pick brush on a school, what a disaster , probably cost me over £100 in having to do them again , it simply didnt have the scrubbing power.
Ah well lesson learnt, never again, I will stick with the world leader , they know what they are on about
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Surely the flocked brushes are too soft?
And what about the dirt they hold?
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They hold the dirt and release it again, the monos just scratch at the dirt with out absorbing it into the brush.
It is a bit like a new srim which wont take the water off the glass
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I don't know if you're talking about my brush or not. ???
But I used it on my Nan's virtually brown windows and stayed until they dried, and I couldn't find a fault with the finish.
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Rog on Some bad windows you need a brush that will melt into the window and have a lot of scrubbing power.
Most windows can be cleaned with ANY brush, but as i said, some windows need a brush that gives elbow grease, thats where a flocked vikan comes into its own.
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Rog on Some bad windows you need a brush that will melt into the window and have a lot of scrubbing power.
Most windows can be cleaned with ANY brush, but as i said, some windows need a brush that gives elbow grease, thats where a flocked vikan comes into its own.
I had the impression that the softer the brush the less it would scrub.
You'll sweep more dust off your path with a stiff broom than a soft one.
Can't see why the same wouldn't apply. ???
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They hold the dirt and release it again, the monos just scratch at the dirt with out absorbing it into the brush.
It is a bit like a new srim which wont take the water off the glass
I suppose as long as you rinse off, i won't matter how much dirt it holds, as long as it lifts it properly.
It's like using old water and dirty applicator when cleaning trad, (within reason), it doesn't make too much difference.
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Rog we are not using the brushes for sweeping , but cleaning, the softer brushes have more surface area in contact with the glass than a stiff brush which relies on the tips of the bristles more than the full length of a soft bristle,
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That Ionics, assuming its the same one Rog, seemed pants to me when it turned up here after ordering it from one of the online suppliers.
Far too stiff.
It seemed like a yard-brush to me, I was afraid to use it as it seemed more like a wire brush than something Id be happy to put on someones glass pane and be confident it would clean it, Id imagine it'd leave lines of uncleaned dirt.
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i got an ionics brush.. with the pole... used it once, was horrid.
vikan all the way. they are just the right weight imo.... .. the superlights are ok if thats what you like.... but i like to feel something on the end of the pole.
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i find the ionics fine on upvc great scrubber. Not so great on leads and wooden bit stiff guna get a superlite for those soon.