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Title: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: geefree on August 27, 2008, 06:06:40 pm
Hi, i have an upright 650 tank... just about to get some quotes to have it fitted securely.... but i dont think it would still be safe simply bolted to the chassis.. it tall and thin !.... so when corners are taken , surely the pressure is too much under the van?

I dont have a bulkhead.. but i am thinking of getting one, but as someone said... that would be like cardboard in the event of an accident anyway ...

i know jeff is building one for his daughter, perhaps i have it all wrong.

would i be safer with a flat tank, and forget about the bulkhead..

any advice greatly appreciated.

thanks.
Title: Re: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: windowwashers on August 27, 2008, 06:18:22 pm
Hi, i have an upright 650 tank... just about to get some quotes to have it fitted securely.... but i dont think it would still be safe simply bolted to the chassis.. it tall and thin !.... so when corners are taken , surely the pressure is too much under the van?

I dont have a bulkhead.. but i am thinking of getting one, but as someone said... that would be like cardboard in the event of an accident anyway ...

i know jeff is building one for his daughter, perhaps i have it all wrong.

would i be safer with a flat tank, and forget about the bulkhead..

any advice greatly appreciated.

thanks.
I have a 650l upright, when cornering it drives totally fine, never had a problem with it and we do a lot of miles
Title: Re: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: geefree on August 27, 2008, 06:23:17 pm
do you have a bulkhead Ian ?... i havent...

the new van is sat outside with nothing in it yet... i keep looking at where it will be secured... without a bulkhead...

sorry for sounding naive, as i have no clue as to how they fix them it...

but i was going to use ...2 x 2 ton straps just so i can use the new van tomorrow or the day after.... as i am paying for my own van insurance.... and a cover note for new van....

but i cant see it going in anywhere safe with only the back of the seats to prop it against.
Title: Re: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: jeff1 on August 27, 2008, 06:59:34 pm
Gazz, you don't need a bulkhead to fit your tank in, Providing its fitted to the chassis correctly you will be fine.
Title: Re: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: geefree on August 27, 2008, 07:03:42 pm
Thanks Jeff,

I didnt really.. want a bulkhead.. as i wanted the heat to run through the van,  for 15 mins on winter mornings too... lol... ;)

cheers again, i will start looking... unless you are setting up doing them on the side Jeff.  ;)
Title: Re: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: windowwashers on August 27, 2008, 07:14:44 pm
I do not have a bulk head, there really is no need or I would have one fitted, the only reason for these is security, the thin plate metal they use would fold like wet paper in a crash unlike some would like you to think
Title: Re: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: geefree on August 27, 2008, 07:15:09 pm
does anyone know the legalities, as i may as well get it fit to legal requrements.
Title: Re: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: geefree on August 27, 2008, 07:31:57 pm
Thanks for your replies ....and help once again.

it still baffles me (scuse the pun lol)..... where three quarters of a ton can be bolted to a chassis... and not rip it to shreds, or damage the van.. with all the pressure excerted when cornering, breaking etc.

amazing really.
Title: Re: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: ftp on August 27, 2008, 07:39:36 pm
I think under normal driving the sheer weight of the tank holds it in place anyway it's only under heavy braking or an accident it's going to move. I tried to lift my tank out the other day for cleaning and it only had an inch of water in it and i couldn't shift it.  :o
Title: Re: 650 litre upright, can it be safe without bulkhead..
Post by: Jewel Cleaning on August 27, 2008, 07:49:48 pm
Two x 2 ton straps won't be any good IMO.  You need something a lot more hefty.  You can get 10 ton straps, I'd go for these, or metal straps.

Although a bulkhead might not stop a half ton water tank hitiing you, it would minimise the threat of injury as a result of smaller unsecured objects that might fly forward on heavy braking.

That's why I'm thinking about getting a driver mesh/cage fitted.  This would also be useful to hang small item on.