Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jaykie on August 27, 2008, 03:30:04 pm
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Ive just met Ian and say his window cleaning programme, and i can say its awesome, I was a bit adament of not using anything other then george but my opinion has total changed, i still think george is a good programme but what Ian has done is 2nd to none, he has sorted every single thing needed for a window cleaner and you can see he has listened to what is needed, this will be the programme for someone who works by themself right through to a company with many employes. Great work Ian.
Chris
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Intersting,
I will defently be trying the trial version and if ian can come up w ith something to at least get all of the customers over from george i will moving to it, i like the way it handles more jobs on the same account for one customer, not needing to enter muitple jobs.
Am sure theres lots more features carn't wait to see it myself.
dave
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Chris,
Thanks very much...I'm glad you enjoyed the Demo.
Dave,
I am currently in the process of writing a utility that will be able to port any data that George can export, so far this is customers, debts and expenses. I will let you know later how I get on with this.
Cheers
Ian
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Hi Ian,
Thats great, as far as i can see and other George users.. customer/debts/expenses is the most inportant at least.
Please do let me know how you get on.
Dave
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No one will be dissapointed with this programme, when you recieve a payment you can mark it as cheque, cash, bank transfer etc
Chris
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is the demo ready yet if not were can i find the old version so i can have a look at that first 8)
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ian how much will this cost? it might be an idea offering the proagrm along with a pda, to save customers buying the wrong thing.
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i so wanna see this thing!
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he he ive already seen it.
Chris
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he he ive already seen it.
Chris
Chris that saying at the bottom,you got that from me did`nt you.
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Erm no its tattooed accross my back shoulder to shoulder
Chris
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Yesterday is history and tomorrow is a mystery,but today is a gift that`s why we call it the present lol.
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Erm no its tattooed accross my back shoulder to shoulder
Chris
Do you turn green when you get angry?? ;D
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How - much - is - it :-\
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How - much - is - it :-\
This has been asked a number of times but the price has never been given maybe because it wont be that cheap..hope i'm wrong..
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I do no the prices hes thinking of and the reason hes not put it up yet is because he wants to be 100% sure its the right deal for everyone envolved, meaning us and him, Ian has spent 8 months building this and its time well spent when you see what hes pu into it.
Chris
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Since there are still some commercials that we must sort out I don't want to say a price and this not be correct.
Chris is correct that I want to get the deal correct and it's not an easy decision. I don't want to price people out of the market but equally don't want it so cheap that I cannot dedicate anytime to keeping it up to date.
As for selling it with a PDA, I did think about this but it means holding stock and comes with an administrative overhead.
I thank you all for your patience and apologise for delaying the launch.
Thanks
Ian
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Well considering what we pay out on poles etc this will be another bit of kit that we will be pleased we bought.
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i just want to see the website...and know all its features and what it has that george doesnt
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Ive got george at the mo and wcp has so much more.
It does invoices with a automatic counter so if custy rings and they have invoice number they give you it,you type this in a wcp will bring it up.
the invoices have your logo at the top if you have a copy
you can select payment type.
if you vat reg you just hit add vat and it will work it out for you.
it has the drag and drop option so if you need to put someone at the end for certain reasons you can.
it shows you what your going to earn on the day, you can go to any day and see what you earnt, you can add fascias and soffit cleans etc to it.
you can have numerous jobs for 1 custy and decide if you want to do seperate invoices or joint invoice.
if you have people working for you they all have a pda with seperate jobs on, once days finished and back at office they can wirelessly sync with pc.
if a custy requests something while your at a job for next visit just put into palm notes and it will transfer it for next time, i.e keys under matt, dont do back as work being carried out etc.
It also has a calander so you can look at the whole month in advance and it will tell you where you are etc so good if new custy rings you can give instant date.
These are just a few i can remember as there was so much.
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Erm no its tattooed accross my back shoulder to shoulder
Chris
no way you didnt get that in ink did ya??? :o ::)
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Yes i did because ive got a special needs daughter who is 6 now and probs wont make it past 10 so it ment something to me.
Chris
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Yes i did because ive got a special needs daughter who is 6 now and probs wont make it past 10 so it ment something to me.
Sorry to hear that....make the most of each day..dont worry about the next day becasue we dont know what going to happen, its very true...and today is a gift, and so is the chance of having a child, so enjoy life!! :)
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I work to live not live to work, love having every weekend off and evenings too, id rather be prepaired for these things so i can enjoy each day rather then have something just taken away and regretting not doing anything,
Chris
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will it print out selected fields?
this is one thing that bugs me on george is that every persons details needs to be printed on the run sheet.
I.E just print the address, price and notes. or name and address with no price. etc etc.
if you give an employee a PDA does he have access to everyones details or can you limit what they see?
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will it print out selected fields?
this is one thing that bugs me on george is that every persons details needs to be printed on the run sheet.
I.E just print the address, price and notes. or name and address with no price. etc etc.
if you give an employee a PDA does he have access to everyones details or can you limit what they see?
Hi Steve,
In this release, all details will be printed on the worksheets and PDA, however there is the ability to decide whether you want to show the price on the worksheets or PDA.
One of the items on my 'Still to do' list is to enable you to choose what details are displayed as you suggested.
Thanks
Ian
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Steve,
I also forgot to mention a workaround for this. You can save the worksheet in an editable format (RTF Document) so that you can manually edit before printing so you could remove details that you do not want on the sheet. This will only work for printed worksheets and is quite a manual process so not ideal in the long run.
Ian
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yer that would be a good option to implement sometime. basicly keeping seprate notes to the worksheet for notes employees need but more personal details kept off.
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will it print out selected fields?
this is one thing that bugs me on george is that every persons details needs to be printed on the run sheet.
I.E just print the address, price and notes. or name and address with no price. etc etc.
if you give an employee a PDA does he have access to everyones details or can you limit what they see?
Hi Steve,
In this release, all details will be printed on the worksheets and PDA, however there is the ability to decide whether you want to show the price on the worksheets or PDA.
One of the items on my 'Still to do' list is to enable you to choose what details are displayed as you suggested.
Thanks
Ian
This is the only thing that bugs me with george, i can't use it to its full potential as i only log address and price within george and have to keep the full details seperate on an excel spreadsheet. This to me would be a huge advantage over george if i could select what to print out. I wouldn't switch to WC pro unless it done it as i would have no need to.
Get it on there before the release ;)
Steve
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Steve,
I also forgot to mention a workaround for this. You can save the worksheet in an editable format (RTF Document) so that you can manually edit before printing so you could remove details that you do not want on the sheet. This will only work for printed worksheets and is quite a manual process so not ideal in the long run.
Ian
It would be easier just selecting what fields you need to print though...wouldn't it?
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Steve,
Yes it would and I intend to implement a template for different users so that you can still print out some details for one employee and a different set of details for another. The suggestion above was only a 'workaround' for now as this feature wont be included in the release.
I have to launch sometime and have had to cut out certain features to meet a sensible launch date.
Ian
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ian hannaford
can you please put me on your notification list i like the sound of the extra things it has on george and would like to trial it.
as a note will you be making it possible to email invoices straight from the program?
at the moment i have to print from george then scan then attach to an email to send to commercial clients.
if i could just hit email it would save a lot of time and aggro and would be a valuable addition for most of the guys on the forum i'd think.
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I believe that once he has sorted the commercial part out his website will go live and you got the 45 day free trial through that.
Chris
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ian hannaford
can you please put me on your notification list i like the sound of the extra things it has on george and would like to trial it.
as a note will you be making it possible to email invoices straight from the program?
at the moment i have to print from george then scan then attach to an email to send to commercial clients.
if i could just hit email it would save a lot of time and aggro and would be a valuable addition for most of the guys on the forum i'd think.
Jeff,
Emailing from the program is slightly harder than it sounds but is on the list of things to do. In the meantime you can save the invoice as a pdf document and then email that to your customers. /this will save you having to print and scan.
Thanks
Ian
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Ok no probs. i will check out the trial when it comes out to see how difficult it would be.
Also is it cross platform as i do most of my work on a mac and have to have a pc just to run george
Thanks
Steve,
Yes it would and I intend to implement a template for different users so that you can still print out some details for one employee and a different set of details for another. The suggestion above was only a 'workaround' for now as this feature wont be included in the release.
I have to launch sometime and have had to cut out certain features to meet a sensible launch date.
Ian
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My PC died on me some months back, and I lost all my work on george!
However, I was luck, as george has internet back up!
Ian, will WCP have internet back up!
Andy
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ian
great look forward to the trial. can you send me a link to your website when up and running
cheers
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My PC died on me some months back, and I lost all my work on george!
However, I was luck, as george as intrenet back up!
Ian, will WCP have internet back up!
Andy
Andy,
Indeed WCP does have internet backup feature.
In the very near future it will also have the ability to automate back ups as well.
Ian
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You can print to an a program straight from george which you just email in pdf format
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microsoft xpoffice writer ,
print to screen then go in printer set up and choose the writer option
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I have successfully mananged to import a users details from George into WCP which is good news. However, there are some issues:
1) You will have to manually 'merge' customers as I have no way of knowing which addresses belong to 1 single customer and also no idea which tasks belong to which customers. This will only affect invoicing. It will not affect the scheduling.
2) There is no job history as this is not avialble from George. This obviously means there are no accounts. I have had to add a negative payment onto users accounts so that the debts are correct and a future date for the next due date.
3) Since you can't get rounds from George, I have had to make up Round names (Round 1, Round 2 etc... which I have grouped based on the date the the job is due. Once the data is in WCP you can organise as you wish.
I know this is not ideal but since this is the only data available from George this is the best I can acheive.
I have only tested with one users data that was sent to me, would anyone else be willing to export Customers, Debts and Expenses from George so that I can test my import utility further? Drop me an email ian@windowcleanerpro.com.
Thanks
Ian
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Yes i did because ive got a special needs daughter who is 6 now and probs wont make it past 10 so it ment something to me.
Chris
i'm so sorry to hear this. i kinda put you in the catogory i put most in that you had it tattooed to look cool. people walk in o a tattoo studio and get any old crap done because it sounds cool hip and trendy.
every one of my tattoos have meaning it helps when you grow old and look daft with them it stops you regretting them. you will never regret that one RWC just as long as you live by it!!!!
God bless you and yours!
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ian, when will the website be ready?
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ian, when will the website be ready?
Hopefully tomorrow :-)
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great.......and another question, will updates be free. as you said you are having to send the release version without some extra features, thanks, Luke
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great.......and another question, will updates be free. as you said you are having to send the release version without some extra features, thanks, Luke
Hi Luke,
Yes all updates for version 2 will be free. I am constantly adding new features and you will get these automatically once I publish them.
Cheers
Ian
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Did we get a cost on this program ;D
Given that when importing data from George some items will remain as seperate entities i.e gutter clean as a one off and entered into George as a single item...can you manually ammend an address but with a date say in 2006?
Cheers
Dave.
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Ian, I have another question ( please dont be offended by this one!!! ). When many companies even the big ones bring out patches for current software it can cause bugs and problems and need an entire new version from scratch altogether eventually, do you think this will be the case or will the patches ( "updates" ) not cause these problems? thanks, Luke
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Did we get a cost on this program ;D
Given that when importing data from George some items will remain as seperate entities i.e gutter clean as a one off and entered into George as a single item...can you manually ammend an address but with a date say in 2006?
Cheers
Dave.
Dave, Im not sure that I understand your question? Can you explain a little further for me? What do you mean by setting address to 2006? If you want to send me an email with your number and I can give you a call.
Thanks
Ian
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Ian, I have another question ( please dont be offended by this one!!! ). When many companies even the big ones bring out patches for current software it can cause bugs and problems and need an entire new version from scratch altogether eventually, do you think this will be the case or will the patches ( "updates" ) not cause these problems? thanks, Luke
Hi Luke,
I understand where your coming from which is why I have created the auto updating feature and system error reports. If there is an error in WCP then a window will pop up and it enables you to send me the error details so that I can reproduce and fix. The auto updating feature means that I can get updates to users very quickly. You should not have to wait too long if any issue do arise.
Hope this answers your question.
Ian
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Yes, thanks for all your swift replies, a few more questions. Will the website contain the programs full details and features tomorrow, will it be ready to purchase tomorrow? thanks, Luke
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oh and what palm would you recommend for this program? Luke
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Yes, thanks for all your swift replies, a few more questions. Will the website contain the programs full details and features tomorrow, will it be ready to purchase tomorrow? thanks, Luke
Luke,
My version of a handheld works on Windows Mobile PDA rather than a Palm. You will see why when you see the screen shots!!
The most important thing is to get the website up and running so that you can see some of the features but most importantly download the software. I don't think I will get the online ordering system up and running tomorrow but will be able to accept orders over the phone or via email if needed.
Ian
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ok, so the program is going to look pretty fancy then?!!
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Hi Ian,
Can it be bought tomorrow then?
I cant wait to have a play with it.
Dean.
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Also can this be used on a black berry phone?
as would be soo easy for us to have emails, jobs, phone all in one hand
cheers J
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Any news on when its going to be ready for download? i heard it was today ;D
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sorry , this may have been asked before , but would it be a good idea to sell this software already installed on a PDA ? If you had enough orders maybe you could sell the unit a bit cheaper ? Ok I will get my coat ;D
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ok, so the program is going to look pretty fancy then?!!
For some reason my auto notifications had stopped working...I have worked very hard on the interface both on the main software and PDA.
I hope you like it
Ian
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Hi Ian,
Can it be bought tomorrow then?
I cant wait to have a play with it.
Dean.
You will be able to download it today...I am trying my hardest to get everything in place as we speak.
As for purchasing I am not going to put the online order page up tonight but if people do wish to buy it then they can always phone/email me and I will sort it out.
Ian
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Also can this be used on a black berry phone?
as would be soo easy for us to have emails, jobs, phone all in one hand
cheers J
The PDA version will work in Windows Mobile 5.0 and higher...I dont know much about BlackBerry's so dont know what operating systems they run on. A Java version of the PDA will be available if the demand is high.
Thanks
Ian
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sorry , this may have been asked before , but would it be a good idea to sell this software already installed on a PDA ? If you had enough orders maybe you could sell the unit a bit cheaper ? Ok I will get my coat ;D
Simon,
I don't really want to get invloved with selling the PDA hardware as well. It will take valuable time away from the development of the software to handle all the problems like delivery and returns etc...I can recommend PDAs to purchase if people are worried about purchasing the wrong one. To install the PDA software its a simple matter of clicking a button in the main application.
Ian
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Any news on when its going to be ready for download? i heard it was today ;D
Dave,
Yep I am really trying to get it all ready for launch today. The website wont be 100% finished but you will be able to download and start the free trial.
Ian
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Dave,
Yep I am really trying to get it all ready for launch today. The website wont be 100% finished but you will be able to download and start the free trial.
Cool matey :D
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Any news on when its going to be ready for download? i heard it was today ;D
Dave,
Yep I am really trying to get it all ready for launch today. The website wont be 100% finished but you will be able to download and start the free trial.
Ian
when when when lol! man youve stringed this one out for us :P only playin
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Any news on when its going to be ready for download? i heard it was today ;D
Dave,
Yep I am really trying to get it all ready for launch today. The website wont be 100% finished but you will be able to download and start the free trial.
Ian
lol...i know and Im sorry. I will let you know asap
when when when lol! man youve stringed this one out for us :P only playin
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when when when
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when when when
soon soon soon
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;D
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the first 100 isnt enough
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You are not related to a certain well known wfp supplier who is legendary for late product launches and fantasicaly improbable excuses are you?
Ever since game platforms manuf's learned that being sold out in europe or completly unavailable just before crimbo led to massive demand and even more massive and free publicity some people have known no shame.
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I think he is enjoying this!!
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Guys i just thought id let you all no that ive had the benefit of working with window cleaning pro for the last 4 days and its the business ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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If you guys are watching this post , you can learn a very good lesson in marketing by looking at the service this member is providing ;D
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Download george and wcp, try both of them then choose which you prefer
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i have just had a tinker with george, it looks quite good, but thought i would look at wcp too. I have been using my own that I built while studying software development a few years ago, it works and got me a distinction, but its very basic and I am lazy ;D
My number is 07892 764 854 , would be nice if we could meet up and discuss ideas mate ;D
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Except it's off the hook remember. ::)
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Hi Everyone,
Thanks very much for your patience. I have just put the site live.
www.windowcleanerpro.com
There are still some sections under construction but at least you can download the software and use it for free for 45 days.
I have included a Live Help button at the top of the page and my support mobile number (This will not be on all the time but you are free to try anytime in the chance that I have it switched on!)
If anyone has any problems, I can be contact via phone, live help, email, forum etc...I also have the ability to remotely logon to your PC and help you through the installation. I aim to put some video tutorials online so that you can sit back and watch how to use Window Cleaner Pro.
There are a few users already on here that have been helping me test so they may know the anwer to your questions.
Thanks again and please enjoy...it has taken me a long time to get it to this stage and I welcome your feedback
Thanks
Ian