Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jaykie on August 24, 2008, 10:33:39 pm
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as above
www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Pole_Weights_and_Lengths.html (http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Pole_Weights_and_Lengths.html)
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A sign of things to come? :)
I would be pleasantly surprised. SL2 will always have it's place, especially on commercial, but for some properties, a modular, a la SL-X would be ideal.
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Alex mentioned this 2 or 3 weeks ago on another thread, it's a work in progress but the fact that it's on the graph must mean he has a prototype built. He did give a few details on the other thread but basically said he wasn't making any promises as to when it will be out.
Simon.
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Alex when you read this can you email me if your doing a 44 foot sl-x as i need a pole this length and would be interested.
Chris
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Alex when you read this can you email me if your doing a 44 foot sl-x as i need a pole this length and would be interested.
Chris
Just wait for the market to be flooded with second hand SL2's :)
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I dont want a sl2,
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Alex when you read this can you email me if your doing a 44 foot sl-x as i need a pole this length and would be interested.
Chris
You have mail.
The chart has been the on the website for about 8 months now (Rupertthehair had spotted it and emailed me). It was put up as a bit of a what if? Although I do now have a prototype version made up and is sitting in the workshop.
Alex when you read this can you email me if your doing a 44 foot sl-x as i need a pole this length and would be interested.
Chris
Just wait for the market to be flooded with second hand SL2's :)
If we were going to bring to production a pole like this, it would complement the SL range as it would still be about twice the weight and I for one would rather stick to my SL and probably would not use the 44ft SL-X (if it comes out!). When doing commercial work hour after hour and extra 1.5kg would really make a difference. The majority of SL clients buy the 56ft version anyway so a 44ft pole would not really be sufficient for their needs. We also have an increasing number of clients who are using the SL at 70ft on a regular basis and the modular design lends itself to work like this.
There are a lot of WFP'ers who do not want a modular though (they do not know what they are missing!) and would really go for a 44ft, 2.8kg, 5' 8", telescopic pole.
Please do not ring the office about this pole as they have no information about it and will not be able to answer any questions or be able to put anyone down on a reservation list. :)
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Alex when you read this can you email me if your doing a 44 foot sl-x as i need a pole this length and would be interested.
Chris
You have mail.
The chart has been the on the website for about 8 months now (Rupertthehair had spotted it and emailed me). It was put up as a bit of a what if? Although I do now have a prototype version made up and is sitting in the workshop.
Alex when you read this can you email me if your doing a 44 foot sl-x as i need a pole this length and would be interested.
Chris
Just wait for the market to be flooded with second hand SL2's :)
If we were going to bring to production a pole like this, it would complement the SL range as it would still be about twice the weight and I for one would rather stick to my SL and probably would not use the 44ft SL-X (if it comes out!). When doing commercial work hour after hour and extra 1.5kg would really make a difference. The majority of SL clients buy the 56ft version anyway so a 44ft pole would not really be sufficient for their needs. We also have an increasing number of clients who are using the SL at 70ft on a regular basis and the modular design lends itself to work like this.
There are a lot of WFP'ers who do not want a modular though (they do not know what they are missing!) and would really go for a 44ft, 2.8kg, 5' 8", telescopic pole.
Please do not ring the office about this pole as they have no information about, and will not be able to answer any questions or be able to put anyone down on a reservation list for it. :)
I do have a 55ft SL-2 myself Alex and I would hang on to it even if I ended up buying a 44ft SL-X (if they come out). Never know when that extra length will be useful. I do find telescopic more convenient to use though. All it would mean for me is that the SL-2 would change from being used sometimes to being used rarely. I don't tend to sell on my poles because I find they all seem to have their uses once in a while. I've even got an old ali pole that is useful for certain types of work - especially if it's a bit windy.
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Alex if you want someone to try and test it for you im your man lol.
Chris
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I have a few houses where I need a 45ft pole to do just 3 windows so in that situation a telescopic would be faster even though it would weigh more.
We will all have to "weight" and see what Alex does...!!!!!
Regards
Mr H
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Instead of just letting it sit there in your work shop ill buy it off you,
Chris
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I use my SL2 for everything now,it`s so so light and the risk of any type of injury from the pole itself is nil.The main reason i think people don`t like using it on evrything is either type of work they have or they don`t have the sections setup right in the van for quick assembly.
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I use my SL2 for everything now,it`s so so light and the risk of any type of injury from the pole itself is nil.The main reason i think people don`t like using it on evrything is either type of work they have or they don`t have the sections setup right in the van for quick assembly.
Your using it for everything? Domestic aswell?! :o :D
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All bar the odd house,i`m having strenthened top sections made for downstairs aswell.
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All bar the odd house,i`m having strenthened top sections made for downstairs aswell.
NWH is my memory going? Were you the guy that reckoned the S2 was no good because it was too bendy so put it up for sale almost straight away? It could be my age of course.
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All bar the odd house,i`m having strenthened top sections made for downstairs aswell.
NWH is my memory going? Were you the guy that reckoned the S2 was no good because it was too bendy so put it up for sale almost straight away? It could be my age of course.
That was well over a year ago now and it was because of the end cap that went over the end of the pole which i now don`t have,i now have a thread glued in the end of the top section,you seem to have a very negative memory why is that?.
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I just seem to remember doing a review on the S2 when i got it and someone disagreeing with me when i said how stiff it was - they reckoned it was far more flexible than the Maver and unbelievably didn't rate it then got rid of it.
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I just seem to remember doing a review on the S2 when i got it and someone disagreeing with me when i said how stiff it was - they reckoned it was far more flexible than the Maver and unbelievably didn't rate it then got rid of it.
You did indeed,at 50-55ft is is more flexible.
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So what happened - you sold it and bought another one exactly the same. ???
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So what happened - you sold it and bought another one exactly the same. ???
I sold it yes and then realised what a fool i`d been although i got what i paid for it except a couple for quid.
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I would buy the SL-X if it was in a 44 ft version rather than use my modular SL-2 pole anyday, even if it is heavier in comparison. I've bought the 'hot' 8mm minibore hose that was introduced to the wfp market by Alex and would have no hessitation buying the 44ft SL-X if it was introduced.
I've used the SL-X with the additional section supplied by Alex and also added on an additional section to the pole myself which I find very handy for 4 storey work. ;)
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I still find it to heavy at the height it comes in as standard,i want a telescopic in a weight that is only slightly hevier than the SL2.Now what a pole that would be.
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I still find it to heavy at the height it comes in as standard,i want a telescopic in a weight that is only slightly heavier than the SL2.Now what a pole that would be.
You don't ever seem happy. ??? :-\
I mean, the SL-X will be as good as it gets for some time to come, and you should be happy with it (for now). It is a great pole really.
Yea, I would wish that too, but it's a bit unrealistic, really.
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I still find it to heavy at the height it comes in as standard,i want a telescopic in a weight that is only slightly hevier than the SL2.Now what a pole that would be.
You don't ever seem happy. ??? :-\
I mean, the SL-X will be as good as it gets for some time to come, and you should be happy with it (for now). It is a great pole really.
Why should i be happy with it,are you happy with things because that`s all you`ve got then.
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No I would like it to be lighter, but (like my ninja edit said) I think that is a bit unrealistic. Other then making the section wall thinner, I don't see how it's going to get lighter, unless there will be the next step from Carbonfibre, which I have no idea if that exists already.
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It`s not a mega light pole the SL2 is,i want mega light poles to work with.If there not really light then there nothing new IMO.
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It`s not a mega light pole the SL2 is,i want mega light poles to work with.If there not really light then there nothing new IMO.
You change opinions so quick, right before it came out, you said it would change the whole wfp scene, and that it's the best thing ever, and now you just bin it again. ???
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It`s not a mega light pole the SL2 is,i want mega light poles to work with.If there not really light then there nothing new IMO.
You change opinions so quick, right before it came out, you said it would change the whole wfp scene, and that it's the best thing ever, and now you just bin it again. ???
It`s still not light enough for me,i want 1 lighter please.
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thats what I told Alex a few months back when i spotted this graph. that the ultimate pole would be a telescopic that weighs the same or very similar to the SL-2 or even lighter if humanly possible!!! NWH just wants the best, Luke
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I think Alex needs competiton but in a good way...to push things forwards for us window cleaners. Im sure he wouldnt quite agree ;D but its the best thing for the actual cleaners. And Alex does like improving his products! The SL-X and SL-2 are the ultimate poles.....and I really find it very hard to believe anybody else when they say otherwise about some other pole. They are tough, light and well designed....but NWH is right they could still be lighter!!
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I think Alex needs competiton but in a good way...to push things forwards for us window cleaners. Im sure he wouldnt quite agree ;D but its the best thing for the actual cleaners. And Alex does like improving his products! The SL-X and SL-2 are the ultimate poles.....and I really find it very hard to believe anybody else when they say otherwise about some other pole. They are tough, light and well designed....but NWH is right they could still be lighter!!
The SL-X is definitely my best pole but I do use other poles too as I want it to last a long time.
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The SL-X is definitely my best pole but I do use other poles too as I want it to last a long time.
Doesnt that defeat the object... otherwise it isnt paying for itself and more. I use mine all the time, except when the work is 30ft + then I get my SL-2 out. Who cares if the pole is wearing quicker if your working quicker, the time it saves you far out does the wear factor and replacement parts costs, Luke