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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: LWC on August 23, 2008, 02:13:30 pm
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mr h found these great rollers
(http://www.redashe.com/Hose_Reels/Accessories/images/P3.jpg)
does anyone use rollers and how do you get on with them? i have a vivaro and have yet to use it properly yet, do you think rollers on the end of the back doors inline will help or hinder?
i could see it being annoying if you were to pull it the other way and then the door shutting, would this happen?
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yep
www.redashe.com/Hose_Reels/Accessories/Roller_Guides.html (http://www.redashe.com/Hose_Reels/Accessories/Roller_Guides.html)
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good find mate , a price would be a factor if i was to get some or not, have you got any prices from them ?
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Part Number (£) List Price Description Page No.
T15720 £ 54.00 Coxreel pivoting bracket P, SH, MP, HP Series Only 48/49
T15720-SS £206.00 Stainless Steel Pivoting Bracket 808, CSS808, SH, MP, HP & Truck Series Only 48/49
T4RB £ 19.50 Face Mounted Roller Guide 48/49
T4RB-SS £ 28.00 Stainless Steel Face Mounted Roller Guide 48/49
T4SR £ 32.00 Face Mounted Roller Guide (Solid Rollers) 48/49
T1728-1 £ 27.50 Right Angled Roller Guide 48/49
T1728-1-SS £ 62.00 Stainless Steel Right Angled Roller Guide Not illustrated
T1734-1 £ 41.00 Right Angled Roller Guide (Solid Rollers) Not illustrated
T8101 £150.00 Large 4-Way Roller Guide with Stainless Steel Rollers 48/49
T1829-1 £ 31.00 T’ Series Roller Guide 48/49
T1829-1-SS £ 73.00 Stainless Steel T’ Series Roller Guide Not illustrated
T1828-1 £ 54.00 T’ Series Roller Guide (Solid Rollers) Not illustrated
T7527 £ 76.00
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Redashe is the place to get hosestoppers for your your hose to protect your ez-snap connections as well. I have them fitted on my hosereel and they'll last for years unlike the lighter version supplied by a popular website amongst the fans on this site. :)
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(http://www.redashe.com/Hose_Reels/Accessories/images/P2.jpg)
what one of these did you buy?
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I didn't buy it I was given it free from their store as they don't sell many of them ;D
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You have to look at the data sheet to find out which size suits your needs. They are are solid rubber. Very hardwearing and will definitely last for years. Saves damaging the EZ snap connectors so works out good value for money in the long run.
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so rollers on rear doors lol
help or hindernece?
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im just on about the roller helping the hose round the doors
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hi
ive installed one of the small square rollers in the rear qtr of my trafic a good year ago, its the best thing ive done for speed as now i just have the pole on the roof rack, my hose reel is floor mounted sideways facing the roller.
i just pull up and walk off with the pole and start work come back reel in and on to the next one there are no problem jobs i cant reach as ive a 100m hose.
also i can leave the van locked
a word of advice though the nuts and bolts were not that long so id find longer ones
i would also pay attention to the bottom roller by making sure that the unit is tightened fully, i found that the bar which the roller is mounted on tended to push out of line and stop the roller spinning hence ive worn a few notches in mine.
apart from that little niggle i highly recommend doing it
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I'm really impressed by the pictures and what people have had to say. I though Dave was asking a question that had been answered and LWC had started a pointless thread.
This is a good example of when someone like me thinks they know it all, and then because of the forum have their opinions changed.
Can I ask Jefftemperley: I would be interested in using one of these square rollers in my side door, would my mini bore an tap fit through it?
Because I wouldn't lke to drive around or park up with it hanging out.
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Jeff, sorry if i sound simple, but exactly where is your roller guide mounted again?
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you will have no problem getting hose thru. but the tap i doubt would.
my set up has a tap at the brush and my slx has a short tail that way i only have my quick release fittings that need go through the rollers.
i keep mine connected when driving between jobs as it holds the back of pole down that way i only fix the front with a bungay cord..... again speed setting up and packing away between jobs being the idea.
as for going thru the side door i guess would be no problem but i personaly prefer it being fitted in the rear left qtr. that way i can get an almost 180 degree angle when pulling out the hose and can still access all the doors without it being in the way, when i need other equipment
hope that helps
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What's a rear left qtr? Have you cut a hole in the van panel? Any pics? (so many questions - sorry)
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drop me an email jefftemperley@gmail.com and ill send you a pic i dont know how to do it on the forum
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I'm really impressed by the pictures and what people have had to say. I though Dave was asking a question that had been answered and LWC had started a pointless thread.
me start a useless thread? how very dare you
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drop me an email jefftemperley@gmail.com and ill send you a pic i dont know how to do it on the forum
Got it, thanks very much, now i understand. Good solution for van security. I have a hole in my floor that does a similar job but would be improved with one of those. (i could cover it up easier when selling the van on too.) Hope you don't mind i've posted a pic of yours.
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seems a bit extreme. cutting a hole in your van??
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seems a bit extreme. cutting a hole in your van??
Nah,.. if it makes the job easier,..JUST DO IT!
You'd prob sell the van with the WFP kit still in anyway, so it'd actually add value!
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as good a idea that is, that hole is far too big for my liking
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The reel in reel out argument is over. It has to be daft to lug the reel out of the van on every job and the smarter people on the forum have been switched for some time, the only defence 'outers' have ever had is; 'you couldn't work with your door open in my areas'.
These roller ports now make it possible for everyone to work this way- if they want to.
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i was thinking about have the l shaped roller and bolting it to the back door, so when its open you can pull it round the door, get what i mean???
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i was thinking about have the l shaped roller and bolting it to the back door, so when its open you can pull it round the door, get what i mean???
i done that ages ago with the grey hozelock type rollers. i had it screwed at an angle on of my old vans back doors. it was very effective but it was before i used micro bore and just used 1/2 inch hose. as soon as i had micro bore i never found it a problem pulling it round the back doors so got rid of it.
I'm sure some of them rollers could be very effective. i would consider installing some in my vans.
Just think if the hose was poking out and your pole was on the outside of the van, you wouldn't even need to open the doors on the van between jobs. A guy i used to know had 4 hooks on the outside of his van where he had his poles stored between jobs. he still had to open his back doors though. i liked the idea but not the hooks he used. if there was a sound clamp about i would be tempted as it all saves time between jobs
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The reel in reel out argument is over. It has to be daft to lug the reel out of the van on every job and the smarter people on the forum have been switched for some time, the only defence 'outers' have ever had is; 'you couldn't work with your door open in my areas'.
These roller ports now make it possible for everyone to work this way- if they want to.
Another defence might be that someone doesn't want to leave hose trailing over footpaths unattended before being able to cover it with matting. I lift it out on most jobs so that I can place the reel on the work side of the footpath. Then I can "patch" the van to the reel with a length of hose and cover it with a rubber mat while in attendance. If I left the reel in the van, I would need to pull the hose out to the farthest window before returning to cover it. Even on footpaths that aren't used so much, sod's law is that someone will trip on the hose while you are at the back of the house.
WFP isn't just about the safety of the operator. The safety of the public needs to be considered too.
So while we are on the subject of "smartness" I would rather lift the reel in and out than have the hassle of someone claiming off me for a trip hazard.
Of course this doesn't apply on all jobs. Where I can park on the property, I can often pull the hose out while the reel is still in the van.
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What does a full reel of microbore weigh? Probably twenty kilos on a metal reel, say you manage twenty houses in the day your going to have to hump that reel forty times - just seems daft to me hence my reel NEVER comes out, i either park to match the pull or pull some extra length off the reel. I'm probably going to intall one of those roller ports in my floor instead of the brass tube i currently have bolted through the floorpan for the jobs where i want the van locked.
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if you were to have the roller on the floor, say directly below the reel, would this not cause problems when reeling it in and it all bunching up in the middle
if you get what i mean, or does the hose follow nicely
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Shiner, why is my hose across the path more of a trip hazard than your hose across the path. Just because you have the reel lifted out you still have a hose leading to it.
What you say doesn't stand up to scrutiny. If you want to make a hose across the footpath safe do so by all means, but don't bring pointless arguments into this.
If you want to 'lift out' every job good, for you, but don't try to justify it as being necessary.
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oh my life this post has nothing to do with taking the hose reel in or out
dear me guys, im talking about the rollers
sighs, this forum sometimes
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if you were to have the roller on the floor, say directly below the reel, would this not cause problems when reeling it in and it all bunching up in the middle
if you get what i mean, or does the hose follow nicely
It does tend to wind more in the middle, but as my reel is so close to the back door i can still guide it onto the reel, it's not as easy as working with the back door wide open but it gives me the option of working with the doors closed when required. If you were to use the letterbox looking guide on their site it would wind up better but then you would need to cut a pretty large hole.
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yeh that would be a large hole wouldnt it, and 2 in my case
how do you cover it up to, maybe a nice flap inside...i dont know though
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Shiner, why is my hose across the path more of a trip hazard than your hose across the path. Just because you have the reel lifted out you still have a hose leading to it.
What you say doesn't stand up to scrutiny. If you want to make a hose across the footpath safe do so by all means, but don't bring pointless arguments into this.
If you want to 'lift out' every job good, for you, but don't try to justify it as being necessary.
Because I cover my hose across the path with rubber matting as soon as it is laid out because I don't have to pull it around the back of the building first leaving it unattended. Easier to show than explain. My post was not pointless. It made a very valid point. If you are looking for an argument, you will be arguing with yourself.
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drop me an email jefftemperley@gmail.com and ill send you a pic i dont know how to do it on the forum
Got it, thanks very much, now i understand. Good solution for van security. I have a hole in my floor that does a similar job but would be improved with one of those. (i could cover it up easier when selling the van on too.) Hope you don't mind i've posted a pic of yours.
whats to stop someone putting something through a hole that size and opening your back door
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I just put my trip hazard sign out first on every job saves all the worries then just work away
three years now and only soaked one lady last week lol she was standing by my van saying
hello hello .....Well I thought it was someone saying hello to me from the other side of the road
so I turned round and flicked the brush out and got her smack in the mush!!! :o ;D ;D ;D oh sorry
I said , well most people cross the road to avoid us but oh no not her she just went off chewing
a wasp
and spitting her dummy out ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Im liking the port on the side a lot and think that this is a major breakthrough , fixed hose reel
too would make winding the reel in with my drill so much easier
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I leave my hosereel in the van at all times. I am fitting it onto a swivel base to make it easier to reel in and out of my van. I have been considering buying one of these rollers and fitting it into the left rear door for too long. I can definitely see how much quicker it would make wfp jobs and will buy one this week and cut the neccessary hole in the back door of my van.
FAO: Jeff Temperley
I have a wide Ionics hosereel fitted very close to my back door (which will be fitted on a swivel plate by the end of this week) and am wondering if I should buy a small roller or a long elongated roller for my back door. Would the small roller be adequate for a wide hosereel or would it make more sense to mount my hosereel further back inside my van to reduce dragging on the hose ???
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The rollers look great,.... now who can find me a self layering gadget for when I finally make my remote controlled motorised hose rewinding gizmo that definitely will be able to run off the WFP battery and won't involve a drill of ANY description!
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whats to stop someone putting something through a hole that size and opening your back door
Fit one of them round security door padlocks for vans. They are a very good deterrent.
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FAO WAYNE Thomas
no need to get the long one a bit too big for the job.
my reel is mounted sideways facing the hole to guide the hose i use plastic star shaped thingy designed to rest timber on that came with my plastic workhorses.
i just guide the hose with that to wind in evenly without getting wet or covered in crap
another tip is that i have made a platform for my reel to sit on that isnt bolted to the floor but becaue it is oversized the reel dont tip over when pulling out or winding in, advantage being i can move it easily if i need more space at the back.
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Someone suggested before fitting a port or soemthing underneath the number plate, which you could adapt to perhaps hinge upwards. This way, it would be more discreet, and would be more neat and tidy if and when you come to sell the van!
Personally I like this idea!
Jay.
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What a brilliant idea!
I could have my post delivered to my van as well. :)
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Someone suggested before fitting a port or soemthing underneath the number plate, which you could adapt to perhaps hinge upwards. This way, it would be more discreet, and would be more neat and tidy if and when you come to sell the van!
Personally I like this idea!
Jay.
my idea ;)
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LWC this means you are a pioneer of wfp - i see trouble ahead.